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Title: When did a month become thought of as a long time for electric service to be
Post by: Freeper on November 03, 2012, 10:02:41 PM
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RB TexLa (15,773 posts)

When did a month become thought of as a long time for electric service to be


 
restored after a hurricane?


Where does this grotesque sense of entitlement come from?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021702075

Tell you what DUmmy show your solidarity with those who have no power. Go out and turn the breaker off in your house and live without electricity for one month. Bet you last 5 minutes.

 :mental:
Title: Re: When did a month become thought of as a long time for electric service to be
Post by: Cruise on November 03, 2012, 10:04:46 PM
It became a long time when your war on poverty made people utterly unable to care for themselves and in very real danger of dying after a mere week.
Title: Re: When did a month become thought of as a long time for electric service to be
Post by: Celtic Rose on November 03, 2012, 10:16:01 PM
I challenge RBTexLa to move up to New York and spend November without electricity.   :whatever:
Title: Re: When did a month become thought of as a long time for electric service to be
Post by: Freeper on November 03, 2012, 10:18:54 PM
It became a long time when your war on poverty made people utterly unable to care for themselves and in very real danger of dying after a mere week.

So true. People like us would be more than prepared for something like this. We may not be living it up, but we won't be thirsty or hungry.

Title: Re: When did a month become thought of as a long time for electric service to be
Post by: Jasonw560 on November 03, 2012, 10:22:38 PM
I challenge RBTexLa to move up to New York and spend November without electricity.   :whatever:

RB, were your services out during Katrina?

I bet you were on the phone the first day, bitching and moaning.

If you're here on the Gulf Coast, ask that when you get a Cat 4 in July.
Title: Re: When did a month become thought of as a long time for electric service to be
Post by: Ballygrl on November 03, 2012, 10:50:39 PM
Get your ass up here and sit in a cold dark house since you need gas for generators and people are waiting on line for hours, and eat cold food out of a can if you can't warm it up, and if you're lucky enough to have batteries you listen to reports of destruction all around you yet you haven't been able to see it.
Title: Re: When did a month become thought of as a long time for electric service to be
Post by: USA4ME on November 03, 2012, 11:03:07 PM
With Dear Leader as President:

Quote from:
RB TexLa

When did a month become thought of as a long time for electric service to be restored after a hurricane?

Where does this grotesque sense of entitlement come from?

With Bush as President:

Quote from:
RB TexLa

A MONTH??????  FOR ELECTRICAL POWER TO BE RESTORED????????

THESE PEOPLE NEED ELECTRICITY NOW YOU CORPORATE WHORE!!!!!!!!!!!!

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE A CHIMP IN OFFICE WHO DOESN'T BELIEVE IN GOVERNMENT!!!!

Any questions?

.
Title: Re: When did a month become thought of as a long time for electric service to be
Post by: docstew on November 03, 2012, 11:21:36 PM
I bet it wouldn't take a month if they had more help... If only those southern states had sent workers up to help fix the power lines... If only

Oh, wait, they did send workers. And your precious UNIONS ran them out of town. For trying to help. Good job, IBEW. Hope the local union hall has it's liability insurance paid up. The family of the first person to freeze to death from lack of power is going to have one HELL of a wrongful death suit.
Title: Re: When did a month become thought of as a long time for electric service to be
Post by: I_B_Perky on November 03, 2012, 11:23:39 PM
With Dear Leader as President:
RB TexLa

When did a month become thought of as a long time for electric service to be restored after a hurricane?

Where does this grotesque sense of entitlement come from?

With Bush as President:
RB TexLa

A MONTH??????  FOR ELECTRICAL POWER TO BE RESTORED????????

THESE PEOPLE NEED ELECTRICITY NOW YOU CORPORATE WHORE!!!!!!!!!!!!

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE A CHIMP IN OFFICE WHO DOESN'T BELIEVE IN GOVERNMENT!!!!


Any questions?

.

OUCH!!! That is gonna leave a mark!!!!   :cheersmate:
Title: Re: When did a month become thought of as a long time for electric service to be
Post by: Jasonw560 on November 03, 2012, 11:25:27 PM
Nice find, USA4ME.

Now, anyone want to go be a good mole and make s/h/it eat their own words?
Title: Re: When did a month become thought of as a long time for electric service to be
Post by: miskie on November 03, 2012, 11:28:29 PM
RB TexLa has been all butthurt since Katrina, and has been fairly consistent in criticizing FEMA and government over the years. This DUmmy also stated plainly that Obama's response to a Katrina like event would be no different then Bush's. I'm impressed that RB TexLa hasn't changed positions now that Obama actually is in the hot seat over disaster relief.
Title: Re: When did a month become thought of as a long time for electric service to be
Post by: RobJohnson on November 04, 2012, 01:26:54 AM
$25 Gal of Gas on Craig's List for your generators (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-11-03/25-gallon-gas)


(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2012/10-2/25%20per%20gallon.jpg)
Title: Re: When did a month become thought of as a long time for electric service to be
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on November 04, 2012, 01:51:39 AM
So true. People like us would be more than prepared for something like this. We may not be living it up, but we won't be thirsty or hungry.

I would be upset if I had to break into the emergency beer stash, though...
Title: Re: When did a month become thought of as a long time for electric service to be
Post by: RobJohnson on November 04, 2012, 01:50:21 AM
I'm glad Obama took care of things....

FEMA is out of water....

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/02/FEMA-Still-Doesn-t-Have-Bottled-Water-to-Distribute-Finally-Places-Large-Order-Today-for-Delivery-Monday

FEMA's vaunted "lean forward" strategy that called for advanced staging of supplies for emergency distribution failed to live up to its billing in the immediate aftermath of Hurricane Sandy.
 
In fact, the agency appears to have been completely unprepared to distribute bottled water to Hurricane Sandy victims when the storm hit this Monday. In contrast to its stated policy, FEMA failed to have any meaningful supplies of bottled water -- or any other supplies, for that matter -- stored in nearby facilities as it had proclaimed it would on its website. This was the case despite several days advance warning of the impending storm.
 
FEMA only began to solicit bids for vendors to provide bottled water for distribution to Hurricane Sandy victims on Friday, sending out a solicitation request for 2.3 million gallons of bottled water at the FedBizOpps.gov website. Bidding closed at 4:30 pm eastern
Title: Re: When did a month become thought of as a long time for electric service to be
Post by: formerlurker on November 04, 2012, 04:11:14 AM
I bet it wouldn't take a month if they had more help... If only those southern states had sent workers up to help fix the power lines... If only

Oh, wait, they did send workers. And your precious UNIONS ran them out of town. For trying to help. Good job, IBEW. Hope the local union hall has it's liability insurance paid up. The family of the first person to freeze to death from lack of power is going to have one HELL of a wrongful death suit.

That is really a NJ/NYC thing because we had an ice storm a few years back right before Christmas (kids were out of school for a month).  I didn't have power for ten days - freezing cold weather.    National Grid sent in workers from all over the country to New England, and they were welcome with open arms.   The convoys of vehicles were given a hero's welcome, and in my community a local restaurant (running on a generator) fed them for free. 

No union badges were checked. 

Title: Re: When did a month become thought of as a long time for electric service to be
Post by: docstew on November 04, 2012, 04:13:44 AM
That is really a NJ/NYC thing because we had an ice storm a few years back right before Christmas (kids were out of school for a month).  I didn't have power for ten days - freezing cold weather.    National Grid sent in workers from all over the country to New England, and they were welcome with open arms.   The convoys of vehicles were given a hero's welcome, and in my community a local restaurant (running on a generator) fed them for free. 

No union badges were checked. 



I fully believe that. Most people realize that human life and suffering is a higher precedence than their union having supreme authority to allow people to work.
Title: Re: When did a month become thought of as a long time for electric service to be
Post by: JohnnyReb on November 04, 2012, 05:06:45 AM
I fully believe that. Most people realize that human life and suffering is a higher precedence than their union having supreme authority to allow people to work.

I bet the union workers houses are the first back online. :-)

Title: Re: When did a month become thought of as a long time for electric service to be
Post by: Skul on November 04, 2012, 06:22:25 AM
Gave it a few seconds of thought.
I have to agree with Bally in many respects.
A cat 1 in September down here, is a lot different the one in late October up there.
Had Sandy popped them in August, they could be compared. Not late October.
The cold there will be a big issue. I wouldn't care to go though it.
The DUmpmonkey didn't think about current weather, or time of year.
Title: Re: When did a month become thought of as a long time for electric service to be
Post by: NHSparky on November 04, 2012, 07:18:29 AM
That is really a NJ/NYC thing because we had an ice storm a few years back right before Christmas (kids were out of school for a month).  I didn't have power for ten days - freezing cold weather.    National Grid sent in workers from all over the country to New England, and they were welcome with open arms.   The convoys of vehicles were given a hero's welcome, and in my community a local restaurant (running on a generator) fed them for free. 

No union badges were checked. 



Same deal here with the same ice storm in 2008.  Did people do stupid shit like buy generators they didn't need then try to gouge?  Yup.  And they were found out quickly, and left with several rather expensive generators they couldn't sell for half what they bought them for.
Title: Re: When did a month become thought of as a long time for electric service to be
Post by: andhe78 on November 04, 2012, 07:30:21 AM
That is really a NJ/NYC thing because we had an ice storm a few years back right before Christmas (kids were out of school for a month).  I didn't have power for ten days - freezing cold weather.    National Grid sent in workers from all over the country to New England, and they were welcome with open arms.   The convoys of vehicles were given a hero's welcome, and in my community a local restaurant (running on a generator) fed them for free. 

No union badges were checked. 



It really is a NY thing.  I started my career as a utility forester with Rochester Gas & Electric which was the only major power company in the state that was non union at the time.  If there was a storm twenty minutes outside of RG&E's territory, union crews eight hours away would be called before us.  Always problems if we had to do storm work in the state, everything from vandalism, to theft, to threats.  Outside the state, never a problem, we even did storm work in Canada with no problems.  The IBEW really is a blight on this state and has been for decades.
Title: Re: When did a month become thought of as a long time for electric service to be
Post by: Vagabond on November 04, 2012, 08:17:52 AM
I challenge RBTexLa to move up to New York and spend November without electricity.   :whatever:

It can be done.  I just wouldn't bet on a DUmmie being able to do it.
Title: Re: When did a month become thought of as a long time for electric service to be
Post by: txradioguy on November 04, 2012, 08:22:48 AM
Different President...different set of rules.

The same dummies wondering what the fuss is about were the same ones raking Bush over the coals about Katrina.

Effin hypocrites.
Title: Re: When did a month become thought of as a long time for electric service to be
Post by: NHSparky on November 04, 2012, 08:28:32 AM
Honestly, I wonder what these assclowns would have done when I was stationed on Guam and we had Typhoon Omar and a few other storms blow through in a matter of a couple of months.  Parts of the island were without power for 2-3 MONTHS.  And that's not even the worst they had to endure, compared to Typhoon Pamela in the mid-70's, and Super Typhoon Paka in the late 1990's (98?) where power was out in places for SIX MONTHS.

Then there were the "rolling blackouts" because of those ever-popular brown tree snakes which blew transformers.  Guess that's what happens when an island of 120K has two ancient power plants and you blow up the transformers.
Title: Re: When did a month become thought of as a long time for electric service to be
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on November 04, 2012, 08:47:04 AM
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Re: When did a month become thought of as a long time for electric service to be...

Around the time electric refrigeration of food became the norm, and when electric power became necessary to operate the blowers and ignition subassemblies of our home heating systems.

You'd think there's be some prioritization to restoring power to as many gas stations an other critical supply nodes first, particularly given the number of portable generators in use, but the officials seem to be concerned more about the numbers game in the restoration effort rather than exactly what is being restored.  There's a certain political imperative to that, but it's a mistake to succumb to it, because the extended lack of infrastructure is going to cause more problems than an extended lack of household power.
Title: Re: When did a month become thought of as a long time for electric service to be
Post by: jukin on November 04, 2012, 08:56:01 AM
Like everything that affirmative action rules apply for, the bar is lowered, lowered dramatically for the content of melatonin in one's skin. The thing with Bush he never made it sound like everything would be fixed in the next hour like barry did, you know because he so smart.

Barak Obama, Logistical and Economic Super Genius.
Have water bottles will travel.
Title: Re: When did a month become thought of as a long time for electric service to be
Post by: NHSparky on November 04, 2012, 09:02:57 AM
Around the time electric refrigeration of food became the norm, and when electric power became necessary to operate the blowers and ignition subassemblies of our home heating systems.

You'd think there's be some prioritization to restoring power to as many gas stations an other critical supply nodes first, particularly given the number of portable generators in use, but the officials seem to be concerned more about the numbers game in the restoration effort rather than exactly what is being restored.  There's a certain political imperative to that, but it's a mistake to succumb to it, because the extended lack of infrastructure is going to cause more problems than an extended lack of household power.

There is--hospitals, fire/police, then other important infrastructure.

But make no mistake, you hit it on the head when you also said it's a numbers game.  CMI (Customer Minutes Interrupted) is a huge deal to utilities, to the point some are going to CSI (Customer SECONDS Interrupted) and basing their rate cases on keeping those numbers as low as practical.

And continuity of electric power (and the quality of same) has really become an issue in the last 20 years or so with the implementation of microprocessor systems or industrial processes which require "5-9's" reliability (translated, 99.99999% power availability, or less than 30 seconds interruption in a YEAR) and very low harmonic distortion (compare US supplies of <5-7% THD to some European countries which are >30% THD--TVDOC will back me up on that one, wherever he might be...)
Title: Re: When did a month become thought of as a long time for electric service to be
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on November 04, 2012, 09:32:06 AM
There is--hospitals, fire/police, then other important infrastructure.

But make no mistake, you hit it on the head when you also said it's a numbers game.  CMI (Customer Minutes Interrupted) is a huge deal to utilities, to the point some are going to CSI (Customer SECONDS Interrupted) and basing their rate cases on keeping those numbers as low as practical.

And continuity of electric power (and the quality of same) has really become an issue in the last 20 years or so with the implementation of microprocessor systems or industrial processes which require "5-9's" reliability (translated, 99.99999% power availability, or less than 30 seconds interruption in a YEAR) and very low harmonic distortion (compare US supplies of <5-7% THD to some European countries which are >30% THD--TVDOC will back me up on that one, wherever he might be...)

I can vouch for the variability of power in Europe myself, though my experience with PSE&G in southern New Jersey in the 90s was about the same, power sags and spikes all the time, which despite conventional surge protection eventually wrecked enough hard drives and motherboards that I put all my computer power in the house through UPSs to buffer the supply shocks.
Title: Re: When did a month become thought of as a long time for electric service to be
Post by: diesel driver on November 04, 2012, 11:10:29 AM
Around the time electric refrigeration of food became the norm, and when electric power became necessary to operate the blowers and ignition subassemblies of our home heating systems.dq

You'd think there's be some prioritization to restoring power to as many gas stations an other critical supply nodes first, particularly given the number of portable generators in use, but the officials seem to be concerned more about the numbers game in the restoration effort rather than exactly what is being restored.  There's a certain political imperative to that, but it's a mistake to succumb to it, because the extended lack of infrastructure is going to cause more problems than an extended lack of household power.

They ARE prioritizing the power restoration, DAT.

The NYC Marathon is getting its power FIRST! :lmao:
Title: Re: When did a month become thought of as a long time for electric service to be
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on November 04, 2012, 11:14:40 AM
They ARE prioritizing the power restoration, DAT.

The NYC Marathon is getting its power FIRST! :lmao:

 :lmao:

H5!
Title: Re: When did a month become thought of as a long time for electric service to be
Post by: Chris_ on November 04, 2012, 10:29:02 PM
Heck of a job, Brownie.