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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on October 28, 2012, 08:25:29 AM
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JEFF9K (41 posts)
ARE LIBERALS TWICE AS SMART AS CONSERVATIVES?
Are liberals twice as smart as conservatives? It's hard to say. I have heard estimates of anywhere from one-and-a-half times as smart all the way up to five times as smart. A Pew research poll found that while 55% of scientists call themselves Democrats, only 6% call themselves Republicans. At the other end of the spectrum, the number of Tea Party members calling themselves liberals is slightly above 0.0%, while the number calling themselves conservatives is just under 100.0%
Liberals read a lot and are open-minded enough to listen to other viewpoints. If they put stock in the viewpoints of media figures, it's likely to be those of pundits from Public Radio and MSNBC where everyone has a college degree, and often an advanced degree. When conservatives read, it's the error-filled books written by school dropouts who host or appear on conservative radio and TV shows. Conservatives are closed-minded and delight in flagging liberal posts, or, failing that, resorting to name calling when confronted with evidence that conflicts with what they were told by Rush Limbaugh.
Liberals vote in their own interests. Conservatives vote the way they are told by the propagandists at Republican headquarters for policies that help only 1% of the people.
It's not a perfect measure of intelligence, but IQ test scores can be useful. Here is a representative sampling of liberal and conservative IQs. All scores are estimates:
A sampling of IQ test scores of liberals: Keith Olbermann 160, Bill Clinton 157, Barack Obama 146, Joe Biden 126, Jimmy Carter 180, Albert Einstein 220, Jesus Christ 300.
A sampling of IQ test scores of conservatives: Sean Hannity 86, Paul Ryan 91, Mitt Romney 103, Rush Limbaugh 90, Joe The Plumber 47, Sarah Palin 0.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251177310
If we are so much dumber than liberals then why is is, that we knew from day 1 that it was a terror attack in Libya and not outrage over a movie that until then no one had ever heard of? Why is it we foresaw the Muslim brotherhood taking over Egypt? How is it us low information voters told you that 0bamacare was not going to lower premiums? For such stupid people we seem to get a lot of things right.
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Mole, I bet.
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Mole, I bet.
Yeah probably a good bet, but I was trying not to out him. :rotf:
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Yeah probably a good bet, but I was trying not to out him. :rotf:
No, to the contrary.
It's good training for those on our side; we advise and counsel them about becoming better moles.
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Mole, I bet.
What gave it away...the stupid IQ comments at the end? :-)
The whole thing steadily descends to the depths of ridiculous.
EDIT:
Never mind. I just saw the all IQs are estimates jazz.
:rofl:
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Comment read:
I never really thought of it being Conservative. I just thought it was common sense.
- Adam Corolla
:lmao:
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Comment read:
I never really thought of it being Conservative. I just thought it was common sense.
- Adam Corolla
:lmao:
I've never figured out why it was called common sense, when it never seems to be all that common, especially among liberals and bureaucrats.
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My little sister earned her master's a decade ago and for quite some time, would try to end arguments, in which she was wrong, btw, with, "Well, I have a master's degree..."
This all stopped as soon as I mentioned that our uncle had an MBA, and 3 ex-wives.
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I've never figured out why it was called common sense, when it never seems to be all that common, especially among liberals and bureaucrats.
:-)
I firmly believe that, even some Conservatives, drop a bunch of IQ points when they become bureaucrats. I'm fairly certain common sense is not in the job description.
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Liberals read a lot and are open-minded enough to listen to other viewpoints.
Really? Seriously? this is just from the 1st page here:
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,80050.0.html
My Tolerance Is At An End (RANT)
I'm sorry...I cannot tolerate Republicans anymore.
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,80039.0.html
I just bitched out a cop about an hour ago for being disrespectful to a Hispanic woman with a baby.
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,80023.0.html
OK. I'VE HAD ENOUGH! No more Republicans in my life.
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,80024.0.html
I'm temped to donate some money to a third party
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http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,80013.0.html
Advocating for certain positions: What is enough to get someone banned?
I ask this because it is my understanding that someone who, say, thinks that gays should have their rights restricted would not be allowed to remain on DU. If so, why is a person advocating outlawing abortion allowed to remain?
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We're the dumb ones but they're the ones who are constantly frustrated when their policies are rejected or resort in abject failure.
We're the easily led but they can't get us to trade Fox for MSNBC.
We're the hate-mongers but they are enraged a bunch of christian fundamentalists are voting for a cultist with magic underwear.
We're the anti-science crowd but they rail against carbon emissions and farm husbandry that have saved literally billions of lives.
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My little sister earned her master's a decade ago and for quite some time, would try to end arguments, in which she was wrong, btw, with, "Well, I have a master's degree..."
This all stopped as soon as I mentioned that our uncle had an MBA, and 3 ex-wives.
That's funny.
H5
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If you're going to tout how much smarter you are than everyone else, it doesn't help to include a false equivalency flaw in your first three-line paragraph. Unless you are addressing moonbats, of course, because being the emotional and unthinking creatures they are, they'll totally buy into it as long as it agrees with their own preconceptions.
:whatever:
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251177310
If we are so much dumber than liberals then why is is, that we knew from day 1 that it was a terror attack in Libya and not outrage over a movie that until then no one had ever heard of? Why is it we foresaw the Muslim brotherhood taking over Egypt? How is it us low information voters told you that 0bamacare was not going to lower premiums? For such stupid people we seem to get a lot of things right.
Don't stop there. It's so obvious that you're eleventy bajillion times smarter than us. We should give you some sort of trophy to recognize your brilliance, but I'm afraid that you might lick it just like you lick the windows on that short bus.
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Really? Seriously? this is just from the 1st page here:
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,80050.0.html
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,80039.0.html
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,80023.0.html
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,80024.0.html
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http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,80013.0.html
Hi 5.
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Slugs are smarter than Liberals.
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Present-day Liberals/Progressives (love their coopting of the titles) may not be enlightened or have substantive arguments but they do know how to play to win. They're good at it.
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People that think they are twice as smart as others are always fooled. These people are nothing more than useful idiots.
The DUches are now gleaning that 0bama is going down and going down in a landslide.
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People that think they are twice as smart as others are always fooled. These people are nothing more than useful idiots.
The DUches are now gleaning that 0bama is going down and going down in a landslide.
Yup.
(http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/japan_before_after/bp2_off.jpg)
They know. :evillaugh:
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If liberals were twice as smart as conservatives, why are they not winning at everything?
Smarts is an advantage in life. Yet most libs are dependent on the govt for a living..
Why haven't the smartest people on earth been eloquent enough to win a single argument in this last election?
Smarts means you can explain things better. Why then does FOX news out perform all the liberal news sites combined? Why is Rush listened too by 6 million people a day? Where is the persuasive AirAmerica?
Smarts means problems can be solved. Wars can be won. Why aren't all the unemployed back to work?
Why hasn't the stimulus created any jobs? Where are the brilliant arguments that will win an election for Obama?
Why hasn't Romney resigned, endorsing Obama for his magnificent 2nd Term plan?
In short if liberals are so smart, why are we conservatives winning?
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Anyone who believes Jesus is a part of any earthly club is severely deluding himself.
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DUmmie is super smart.....but can't change a flat tire....just keeps jacking up the car and turning the round side down just to find that that side is flat too.....they use the methodology for their liberal programs.
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If lefties are voting for their best interests why do they not ask themselves why they are always losers and poor?
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I dearly hope they continue to believe such nonsense.
Custer was a demeocrat. :-)
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This guy is an awful mole.
With less than a hundred posts he comes up with a ludicrous post like this?
This is more like a suicide run than a serious mole.
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blue-kite (307 posts)
16. Agreed on that last point.
Regardless of your view on individual policies, you can only choose Obama.
He is a statesman, a diplomat, a thinking-person.
He's made plenty of mistakes over the last four years but that is the nature of governance, not the man.
Romney, opportunist is probably a compliment.
Bush, remember him, well, lets not go there.
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Regardless of how they stack up against Conservative, if Liberals were twice as smart as they really are, they'd be wits.
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Regardless of how they stack up against Conservative, if Liberals were twice as smart as they really are, they'd be wits.
Good one! H5!
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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #23)Sun Oct 28, 2012, 03:19 PM
JEFF9K (46 posts)
27. My overall point.
I was trying to make a point in a somewhat humorous and hopefully entertaining way. If I had to guess at Mitt's IQ I would say at least 125.
Response to JEFF9K (Reply #27)Sun Oct 28, 2012, 03:21 PM
BainsBane (539 posts)
28. I agree
He's not stupid per se, but he sucks at politics.
If Romney sucks at politics, then how come is he mopping the floor with Barack Hussein O'Vaginamonolouges.
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DUmmie is super smart.....but can't change a flat tire....just keeps jacking up the car and turning the round side down just to find that that side is flat too.....they use the methodology for their liberal programs.
:-)
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A lot of DUmmies carry around stacks of raw data with them - facts, figures, dates, names, etc. - which they can whip out at a moments notice. The problem is, they don't contextualize well. They don't know how to synthesize that data into a coherent whole. There's never a gestalt moment where all the pieces fall into place, "the penny drops" so to speak, and they reach a natural realization of the truth. That's why their arguments for the most part are circular. "It is, just because, well, it is." When faced with rigorous analysis, they become confused, angry, and slip into ad hominems and argument from emotion.
Look at videos of confrontations of conservatives versus liberals in, say, street protests. The conservative remains cool, calm, and presses their argument, while the liberal has devolved into a shrieking, epithet-spewing creature of stimulus/response. They have fragile egos that melt down when challenged or cornered. They refuse to subscribe to the notion of past performance or behavior being the single greatest predictor of future performance or behavior. Hence, the steadfast insistence that Socialism and Communism can work, despite the dismal failures of its past, if only it was "done right". The danger lies in what else is ignored - that those failed experiments in social engineering resulted in the loss of tens of millions of lives.
So I would say that a great many of them have the capacity to accumulate knowledge, and the cunning to wield it like a blunt instrument on the unsuspecting. But in-depth reasoning? Not so much. And wisdom is right out.
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If they're so much smarter than us why do conservative books sell better than liberal ones? It sure the hell isn't liberals reading the majority of books from our side of the political aisle. Why don't the win every election? Someone twice as smart as the "other side" would have no problem "framing" a narrative nor understanding how to make an issue understandable. Why are they always the employees with the stupid boss? Seems to me a smart person would be able to prove their mettle and earn promotions over the "dumb" boss. Or why aren't they the ones who own the business instead of the ones criticizing the person who owns the one they work for? Why wouldn't they be able to make up a bouncie you can't shoot holes through? Why do they think it's okay for a president to spend billions of tax payer dollars on failed solar companies and still ask for more? How are they gullible enough to still buy into the "hope and change" bullshit? How is it they reduce every argument or criticism against 0bama to racism instead of understanding the argument itself (even if they don't believe it)? Why do they have to constantly convince themselves they're smarter than everyone else? A truly smart person wouldn't need to continually build themselves up.
Cindie
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I honestly would not get too worked up over this. Any one who has experience with a dyed in the wool leftist would know that no matter what wing of the leftist coalition they fall under, the one thing they all have in common is that they're all elitist, regardless of their actual intelligence. It is essentially one big pat on their own backs.
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Why do they have to constantly convince themselves they're smarter than everyone else? A truly smart person wouldn't need to continually build themselves up.
It's because the bottom line is, the primitives are actually pretty stupid.
If franksolich can run circles around someone, that doesn't say much for the other person's cerebral capacities.
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I honestly would not get too worked up over this. Any one who has experience with a dyed in the wool leftist would know that no matter what wing of the leftist coalition they fall under, the one thing they all have in common is that they're all elitist, regardless of their actual intelligence. It is essentially one big pat on their own backs.
True, rotator cuff injuries from patting themselves on the back too strenuously is one of the most common Leftist reasons for begging off any actual physical effort, paid or otherwise.
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It's because the bottom line is, the primitives are actually pretty stupid.
If franksolich can run circles around someone, that doesn't say much for the other person's cerebral capacities.
It is entertaining to watch them spin around trying to catch you.
I only find it odd that you do that while standing still.
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I worked with a lefty....I was unlucky enough to get stuck on the same truck with him for some shifts.
Typical lib....listened to NPR, was into wine tasting and the like, gave to lib causes, hated Bush.
I would engage him in politics, and he would give his circular reasoning until I threw my hands up.
The thing about it was, he was book smart. He just didn't have the common sense God gave a peanut.
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I doubt the DUmmies are smarter than common bread mold, let alone conservatives. However, there is irrefutable proof that conservatives are happier than liberals.
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A lot of DUmmies carry around stacks of raw data with them - facts, figures, dates, names, etc. - which they can whip out at a moments notice. The problem is, they don't contextualize well. They don't know how to synthesize that data into a coherent whole. There's never a gestalt moment where all the pieces fall into place, "the penny drops" so to speak, and they reach a natural realization of the truth. That's why their arguments for the most part are circular. "It is, just because, well, it is." When faced with rigorous analysis, they become confused, angry, and slip into ad hominems and argument from emotion.
Look at videos of confrontations of conservatives versus liberals in, say, street protests. The conservative remains cool, calm, and presses their argument, while the liberal has devolved into a shrieking, epithet-spewing creature of stimulus/response. They have fragile egos that melt down when challenged or cornered. They refuse to subscribe to the notion of past performance or behavior being the single greatest predictor of future performance or behavior. Hence, the steadfast insistence that Socialism and Communism can work, despite the dismal failures of its past, if only it was "done right". The danger lies in what else is ignored - that those failed experiments in social engineering resulted in the loss of tens of millions of lives.
So I would say that a great many of them have the capacity to accumulate knowledge, and the cunning to wield it like a blunt instrument on the unsuspecting. But in-depth reasoning? Not so much. And wisdom is right out.
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Well stated. H5
Like the commintern echo chamber they inhabit, they refuse to allow alternate points of view to deconstruct their carefully constructed worldview. That worldview always being one Jenga block away from total collapse. Pull the block, meltdown.
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The thing about it was, he was book smart. He just didn't have the common sense God gave a peanut.
Very, very common. I agree that many are book smart. They just assume that those smarts instantly translate into real world competence. Wrong. So, we get stuck with all the Art majors running around telling everybody how the economy is supposed to work.....as they are borrowing $50.00 from a Conservative to make it til next paycheck.
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As I've said, as the "book smarts" trickle, drop by drop, in one ear, common sense floods out the other ear at about 3000 psi. Very rarely is this not the case.
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[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Elpbs6kb8Ys[/youtube]
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ARE LIBERALS TWICE AS SMART AS CONSERVATIVES?
You would think so if you were a Liberal, looking at studies conducted by Liberals, at Liberally-biased institutions, in studies funded by Liberal organizations and interests. Anyone else, not so much.
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Really? Seriously? this is just from the 1st page here:
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,80050.0.html
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,80039.0.html
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,80023.0.html
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,80024.0.html
And from Page 2:
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,80013.0.html
Bally. You missed the best one from this weekend.
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,80002.0.html
Should I evacuate from the storm in Dayton Ohio?
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If they're so much smarter than us why do conservative books sell better than liberal ones? It sure the hell isn't liberals reading the majority of books from our side of the political aisle. Why don't the win every election? Someone twice as smart as the "other side" would have no problem "framing" a narrative nor understanding how to make an issue understandable. Why are they always the employees with the stupid boss? Seems to me a smart person would be able to prove their mettle and earn promotions over the "dumb" boss. Or why aren't they the ones who own the business instead of the ones criticizing the person who owns the one they work for? Why wouldn't they be able to make up a bouncie you can't shoot holes through? Why do they think it's okay for a president to spend billions of tax payer dollars on failed solar companies and still ask for more? How are they gullible enough to still buy into the "hope and change" bullshit? How is it they reduce every argument or criticism against 0bama to racism instead of understanding the argument itself (even if they don't believe it)? Why do they have to constantly convince themselves they're smarter than everyone else? A truly smart person wouldn't need to continually build themselves up.
Cindie
Because you're dumb, racist, anti-science, homophobic, sexist hate-mongers.
But it's not your fault. You're just easily led.
As soon as they can bury Fox under a new Fairness Doctrine and tax your church into ruin they will liberate you.