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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: shadeaux on October 27, 2012, 10:16:12 PM
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HopeHoops (44,656 posts)
I just bitched out a cop about an hour ago for being disrespectful to a Hispanic woman with a baby.
Background: This is a plaza with our favorite grocery store (family owned) and our favorite hardware store (also family owned). They allow the Salvation Army, Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, and other such groups to beg for money. I've often seen white (mostly male) beggars holding up signs asking for money. None of them have ever been intrusive. We're talking over ten years here, and I've never been confronted by any of them.
So anyway, I walked from the grocery store to the hardware while my wife loaded the groceries into the van. Just before the hardware, there was a Hispanic woman with a baby about 9 months old in a sling with a sign asking for help. She never said anything until I pulled out my wallet. I gave her a $20, and I know enough Spanish to understand what she was saying. She kissed my hand. I'm also good at reading people and she wasn't trying to scam anyone. It wasn't a pleasant day to be out and she was underdressed for the weather.
The hardware was out of 6v batteries (Sandy's coming). I came out to wait for my wife to bring the van around and a cop was giving the woman shit for begging. He was trying to get her personal information to write her a citation and I heard, "Look, if you can't speak enough English to give me your information, you don't belong here."
- Did I mention that I have a temper?
With my cane and service dog, I headed straight for the cop and made it clear that she was NOT a problem and he should leave her alone. His only excuse was that he "got a complaint". I was just pissed about the "don't speak enough English" issue, but I stayed in his face about it (and might have been proudly arrested for it). He let her go without writing her up. She kissed my hand again and took off. I just turned away from the cop and headed toward the van.
There aren't many things I have zero tolerance for, but racism and other forms of bigotry qualify. We have to take a stand sometimes. I just had to get this off of my chest. I'm still mad.
He MAD. :lmao:
leftyohiolib (1,829 posts)
4. usually when you do that you end up arrested for interfering with police business
HopeHoops (44,656 posts)
10. Oh hell. Most of the cops know me around here. I'm not a "model" citizen if you get my drift.
He actually looked afraid of me - AND I had a 22 lb dog with me (yes, she's only 22 lbs).
He BAD.
HopeHoops (44,656 posts)
11. I just hope she remembers that not every white hippie headed ****er is an asshole.
Wait, scratch that. I'm an asshole by nature. But I wasn't with her. She needed protection. Sometimes you just have to do what feels right at the time. I think the combination was somehow interconnected, but I really can't put it in a context. And no, I'm not religious. But karma comes into play every once in a while. I know $20 isn't much, but at least it will get her through a few days. And I'm STILL pissed at the cop. This is a very racist area. I just don't tolerate that.
No, you're just a loud mouth. Or a big liar. :-)
HopeHoops (44,656 posts)
12. Yeah, well, if he was going to arrest me he'd have had to let me take my service dog along.
I had the upper hand in that one. I'm sort of an "in your face" kind of guy. That's usually how I avoid fights with people twice my size. If you get in their face, they wonder what you've got up your sleeve - even if you're in a tank top. It's worked well for many years, but my wife's a 3rd degree black belt in Tang Soo Do, so I know she'll have my back if necessary.
We have a Redstone knock off here. :rotf:
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Sounds like a liberal alright.
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I'm sure the cop had to go home to get a fresh pair of underwear.
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Typical liberal man, make the wife load the van with groceries.
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The HoopHope primitive has been on fire lately providing all sorts of DUmpmonkey viewing entertainment. It's making a move up in the ranks of my DOTY list of deserving primitives.
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Hmmm...walking around with a white cane and a service dog, but still able to see exactly what was going down how far away? Sounds more like a fake disability scam. ::)
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Obvious mole.
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He actually looked afraid of me - AND I had a 22 lb dog with me (yes, she's only 22 lbs).
I'm sure a 180+ lb (just assuming, obviously...) cop is afraid of a 22lb dog...
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:badass:
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HopeHoops (44,656 posts)
It's worked well for many years, but my wife's a 3rd degree black belt in Tang Soo Do, so I know she'll have my back if necessary.
(http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab89/Glock40guy/OldLady-1.jpg)
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(http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab89/Glock40guy/OldLady-1.jpg)
Worth one. :cheersmate:
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HopeHoops (44,656 posts)
12. Yeah, well, if he was going to arrest me he'd have had to let me take my service dog along.
I had the upper hand in that one. I'm sort of an "in your face" kind of guy. That's usually how I avoid fights with people twice my size. If you get in their face, they wonder what you've got up your sleeve - even if you're in a tank top.
Cane, service dog the size of a Jack Russell, wearing a wife beater and getting all mouthy? No, they assume you're a handicapped lunatic and leave you alone.
Hmmm...walking around with a white cane and a service dog, but still able to see exactly what was going down how far away? Sounds more like a fake disability scam. ::)
I was gonna say, until I went back and saw that he just said cane.
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BS. What an absolute crock full.
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With my cane and service dog, I headed straight for the cop
Sounds threatening to me. The cop should have tasered his ass.
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Sounds threatening to me. The cop should have tasered his ass.
He's lucky his service dog...then he himself didn't get shot by that cop.
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10. Oh hell. Most of the cops know me around here. I'm not a "model" citizen if you get my drift.
Translation: I'm the crazy old ****er of the neighborhood.
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Obvious mole.
Yeah. H5 for the diagnosis. This one failed Moling 101.
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HopeHoops (44,656 posts)
I gave her a $20, and I know enough Spanish to understand what she was saying. She kissed my hand.
Once again we see how the Liberal Elitists are the most bigoted people in the land. This is how brown people are supposed to treat their liberal masters.
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Cane...service dog....$20.....lets see here....illegal b*tch had his best begging spot and when he tried to buy her out of it....she kept his $20 and the cop made him move along.....a little presto-chango and it makes for a poor bouncy.
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Hey moonbat...I'm a "white hippie-headed ****er", and I'm the one who filed the complaint against the illegal in the parking lot.
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Hey moonbat...I'm a "white hippie-headed ****er", and I'm the one who filed the complaint against the illegal in the parking lot.
Whoa.
Really?
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Complete and utter BS story.
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Whoa.
Really?
I bet it's just as true as this entire bouncy. :naughty:
22lb. service dog? :confused:
Hell, my one of my Dachshunds weighs more than that. He could be a "seeing eye wiener" service dog! :lmao:
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Sounds threatening to me. The cop should have tasered his ass.
And his little dog too!
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And his little dog too!
Don't you think the dog has been through enough already? Imagine the smell, living in a DUmbass home.
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And his little dog too!
Nice Wizard of Oz reference, Jess!
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Don't you think the dog has been through enough already? Imagine the smell, living in a DUmbass home.
I agree. I just thought the reference would be funny. I am against dogs being tasered. lol
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Why would a police officer want all that body odor inside his police car?
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I bet it's just as true as this entire bouncy. :naughty:
22lb. service dog? :confused:
Hell, my one of my Dachshunds weighs more than that. He could be a "seeing eye wiener" service dog! :lmao:
All of a sudden I have noticed all types of dogs with service dog permits on them. Even little dogs. I think they are giving the permits out to about any dog and any person.....sometimes my workplace looks like PetCo. I'm not sure what type of service these dog provide.
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I agree. I just thought the reference would be funny. I am against dogs being tasered. lol
I know the reference :-).
I'm known for saying, "Screw you and the horse you rode in on and your little dog too".
But I want you to remember in the future -- "these things must be done delicately or you'll hurt the spell"
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HopeHoops (44,656 posts)
It's worked well for many years, but my wife's a 3rd degree black belt in Tang Soo Do, so I know she'll have my back if necessary.
That's like General Tso's Chicken, only with slivered almonds. Right?
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All of a sudden I have noticed all types of dogs with service dog permits on them. Even little dogs. I think they are giving the permits out to about any dog and any person.....sometimes my workplace looks like PetCo. I'm not sure what type of service these dog provide.
Sometimes, and this is especially true for the DUmb****s, it's the only friend those individuals have. That is the service.
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All of a sudden I have noticed all types of dogs with service dog permits on them. Even little dogs. I think they are giving the permits out to about any dog and any person.....sometimes my workplace looks like PetCo. I'm not sure what type of service these dog provide.
Certificates are meaningless. There are no national certification programs in the US.
The current definition of "service animal" according to the ADA is found here: http://www.ada.gov/service_animals_2010.htm.
"A service animal is a dog that is individually trained to do work or perform tasks for a person with a disability."
Service animals are defined as dogs that are individually trained to do work or perform tasks for people with disabilities. Examples of such work or tasks include guiding people who are blind, alerting people who are deaf, pulling a wheelchair, alerting and protecting a person who is having a seizure, reminding a person with mental illness to take prescribed medications, calming a person with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) during an anxiety attack, or performing other duties. Service animals are working animals, not pets. The work or task a dog has been trained to provide must be directly related to the person’s disability. Dogs whose sole function is to provide comfort or emotional support do not qualify as service animals under the ADA." (emphasis added)
As a business owner or employee, you can ask a dog owner what kind of service dog it is, and what tasks the dog performs. If the dog meets the legal definition of "service animal", you must allow access unless its presence creates a health or safety risk.
Small dogs certainly have a place. The hearing dog training program I am working with prefers dogs under 20 pounds. I am really making them work training a big dog for me!
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HopeHoops (44,656 posts)
With my cane and service dog, I headed straight for the cop and made it clear that she was NOT a problem and he should leave her alone.
It looks like DUmmy FruitLoops found the only police officer in the entire Northeast who never went to the police academy.
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
"Move along sir. Police business."
"Move along, sir."
"This is your last warning. If you don't move along, you will be placed under arrest for interfering with a police officer."
"OK, place your hands behind your back. No, your dog can't go with you."
"No, I won't run the siren for you. Stop asking."
"No, you won't have to have a body cavity search....no, not even if you want one."
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A twenty-two pound seeing-eye dog?
If it were true, that blind guy would be bumping into a lot of stuff.
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Apparently, according to my co-worker, they are therapy dogs, for people who are clinically depressed...I call BS, but what do I know?? :shucks:
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Apparently, according to my co-worker, they are therapy dogs, for people who are clinically depressed...I call BS, but what do I know?? :shucks:
seahorse,
There are three kinds of therapeutic dogs for people with mental/behavioral handicaps:
1. Service dogs: Patients with PTSD, other stress disorders, or severe anxiety can use dogs trained to recognize anxiety attacks and respond by reassuring and protecting the owner. These dogs are ADA-compliant "service animals".
2. Therapy dogs: Used by therapists in group or individual therapy, these dogs are not "service animals".
3. Companion animals: Privately owned, "pets". These dogs are not trained to perform tasks, but their presence is beneficial to people with anxiety, depression, or stress disorders. Not "service animals" according to the ADA.
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seahorse,
There are three kinds of therapeutic dogs for people with mental/behavioral handicaps:
1. Service dogs: Patients with PTSD, other stress disorders, or severe anxiety can use dogs trained to recognize anxiety attacks and respond by reassuring and protecting the owner. These dogs are ADA-compliant "service animals".
2. Therapy dogs: Used by therapists in group or individual therapy, these dogs are not "service animals".
3. Companion animals: Privately owned, "pets". These dogs are not trained to perform tasks, but their presence is beneficial to people with anxiety, depression, or stress disorders. Not "service animals" according to the ADA.
That is okay, but all of a sudden, everyone is coming in with the family pet, and calling it their "therapy dog". According to Walmart policy,we can ask, but cannot ask for papers or proof. Once the customer says yes, it is a service dog, there is nothing the store can do...The policy really hurts the people who have physical, mentally or emotional handicap and really need that extra help.
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That is okay, but all of a sudden, everyone is coming in with the family pet, and calling it their "therapy dog". According to Walmart policy,we can ask, but cannot ask for papers or proof. Once the customer says yes, it is a service dog, there is nothing the store can do...The policy really hurts the people who have physical, mentally or emotional handicap and really need that extra help.
It's not even Walmart. It's happening every where these days. We were at the outlet mall a couple weeks ago and some lady had a small dog in a "dog purse". Your dog isn't your child, you can leave it at home.
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It's not even Walmart. It's happening every where these days. We were at the outlet mall a couple weeks ago and some lady had a small dog in a "dog purse". Your dog isn't your child, you can leave it at home.
When it comes to training a ADA compliant service dog, are they are trained to to know the difference between a excited child, and a potential threat?
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When it comes to training a ADA compliant service dog, are they are trained to to know the difference between a excited child, and a potential threat?
Service dogs are not trained to recognize threats, like guard dogs are. Service dogs are trained to perform specific tasks, guide the owner, or identify things in the environment and respond with a "programmed" action.
An example would be: a hearing dog may be trained to respond to a smoke alarm by running to the owner and headbutting him. The owner is trained to know being headbutted by the dog means the smoke detector is going off.
A service dog, depending on training, would either ignore an excited child, respond as trained, or act like any other dog does around an excited child.
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And his little dog too!
:rotf: :rotf:
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All of a sudden I have noticed all types of dogs with service dog permits on them. Even little dogs. I think they are giving the permits out to about any dog and any person.....sometimes my workplace looks like PetCo. I'm not sure what type of service these dog provide.
I'm not so sure we want to either.
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That's like General Tso's Chicken, only with slivered almonds. Right?
I know I have heard of Kempo and Tae Kwan Do Karate but I have not heard of that style. Probably another Tit or 11BooBoo. Another bouncy failure.
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That is okay, but all of a sudden, everyone is coming in with the family pet, and calling it their "therapy dog". According to Walmart policy,we can ask, but cannot ask for papers or proof. Once the customer says yes, it is a service dog, there is nothing the store can do...The policy really hurts the people who have physical, mentally or emotional handicap and really need that extra help.
It's seems to be popular.
In Nevada there is a small certficate with a NV state stamp inside a clear pouch on the vest on the dog that identifies it as a service dog. In the past, these same customers used to walk through stores with no such vests or permits on the dog, with the same dog.
Some customers don't appreciate these "dogs" sniffing them when the dog owner is not paying attention to their dogs while they shop and talk...the leash is usually pretty long.
If I had to guess one or two people might be stretching the rules to take their dog every place they go.
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It's not even Walmart. It's happening every where these days. We were at the outlet mall a couple weeks ago and some lady had a small dog in a "dog purse". Your dog isn't your child, you can leave it at home.
I've seen the dog purse in a waiting room of a doctor's office. That does not seem very "clinical" to me.