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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on October 21, 2012, 06:10:16 AM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021586518
Oh my.
And it looks as if dear cali did a nadism in her title; usually she's not known for such things.
Dear cali lit another campfire on Skins's island, talking about how the election is going to come down to Ohio, but that one's not nearly as interesting as this one.
cali (75,171 posts) Sat Oct 20, 2012, 06:16 AM
Ice at fast food restaurtants dirtier than toilet water
Florida student found that the ice at fast food restaurants is actually dirtier than the toilet water at the same establishment.
The student, 12-year-old Jasmine Roberts, hypothesized that the ice at fast food joints was probably dirtier than the toilets.
So she went to five fast food restaurants and collected samples.
She ordered cups of ice and put them in sterile beakers. She also went into bathrooms, flushed the toilet once, and collected a sample.
The findings were pretty disturbing.
http://www.businessinsider.com/ice-is-dirtier-than-toilet-water-2012-10
Iggy (869 posts) Sat Oct 20, 2012, 06:26 AM
2. Uhhhhhhhh
I work in the restuarant biz... most, if not all cities/towns enforce building codes whaich require filtered water to be supplied to ice machines.. and that a device called a "backflow preventer" is installed on this water line- to prevent any sort of backwash to occur in the line.
No backflow preventer installed? then you don't pass the req'd health dept inspection and you don't get your license to open/operate your restaurant.
Cleaning protocol requires the ice storage box be cleaned regularly.
I'm not sure what restaurants this "survey" was done at-- if it's fly by night mom and pop sort of places that aren't inspected by the health dept. and/or don't clean their restaurants, then yes, I can see why their ice might be dirty.
but I can more or less guarantee this is rare at a McD's or other QSR type stores.
WhaTHellsgoingonhere (1,657 posts) Sat Oct 20, 2012, 06:29 AM
3. LOL! What you don't know is a lot!!!
It's mostly a problem created by your employees wiping their ass then not washing their hands before scooping the ice!
Seriously dude?
Iggy (869 posts) Sat Oct 20, 2012, 06:57 AM
5. uhhhh
weak example.
if one is not washing their hands after doing #2 (you have to prove to me this is happening in ALL QSR restaurants)and then using a SCOOP.. how are germs getting in the ice?? does the scoop not have a _handle_ on it?
in stores I work in, the scoop is not stored/left in the ice box-- and it is washed regularly.
again, I can't verify what is happening in Clyde's Grease Burger joint-- I can tell you cleanliness protocol is taken seriously in the chain restaurants... they know if someone gets E Coli from their food, there's going to be lawsuits, and $1,000's of dollars are going to be lost. likely the offending restaurant will be closed for weeks.
Pathwalker (5,265 posts) Sat Oct 20, 2012, 10:06 AM
22. They closed down an Arbys here, for making people sick.
There was an employee with cryptosporidium who didn't wash his hands after using the restroom. I was one of those who got very, very sick. By the time the Health Dept. finished interviewing me ( I had only eaten out at one place in the month prior - that Arbys), they were able to nail down the location, and raid the Arbys. That man had infected the entire place, and all the employees, plus 39 people, including me. Choose your restaurants very carefully. If you don't, you may regret it for a long, long time.
hobbit709 (23,507 posts) Sat Oct 20, 2012, 06:32 AM
4. My mom worked at McD's for about 10 years back in the 80s.
that's the main reason I won't go there after she told my how things were.
And here in Austin, it takes about 4 days for slime mold to infiltrate an ice machine. My wife had to clean the one at the shelter once a week when she was the Food Service Coordinator there.
Scootaloo (3,374 posts) Sat Oct 20, 2012, 07:09 AM
6. Inspections aren't terribly thorough
The workload for the inspectors is usually pretty damn huge. Mostly they're looking for obvious, glaring problems. Plus quite frankly it's not as if health inspectors stop by every day. Cleaning gets pretty spotty in most places, unless the manager figures "oh, we're due for inspection." How recently do you think the filters were changed? How about hte lines? The ice box SHOULD be regularly cleaned, but with the work schedules in these places, you often have to hope that magical elves show up to do it for you one night.
I've worked in these place for most of my working career - well, never a fast food chain, but having worked in actual regularly-inspected restaurants, I can tell you... anywhere you have food, a LOT of people going in and out and in and out over and over again... Isn't going to be sparkling and sterile.
Never, ever ever order soft-serve ice cream. NEVER.
^^^hmmmm. One wonders what's up with that warning.
LuvNewcastle (2,826 posts) Sat Oct 20, 2012, 08:02 AM
8. Very true.
The Health Dept. can bust people on all kinds of violations but they seldom do. Their job is to inspect for general cleanliness and check for problems that would cause the more serious and deadly food-borne illnesses. For instance, a cooler or freezer that's not cold enough will get a restaurant in trouble. Usually, if a place doesn't have any major problems, the Health Dept. won't look very hard for little shit. When a restaurant can't seem to get the basics right is when the Health Dept. will look for smaller violations and shut a place down. They're not going to give a perfect score; they always find something.
Keeping a restaurant clean is a very difficult task. There's always a mess, whether it's a spill, breaking plates, taking out garbage, etc. Food preparation is inherently nasty and you have to work very hard to make the place acceptable, much less clean. After working 20+ years in the food/beverage industry, I don't eat in restaurants all that often. I just don't think it's healthy to do it all the time.
GeorgeGist (8,080 posts) Sun Oct 21, 2012, 04:29 AM
28. Junk science.
But then she's only 12.
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Anthony Bourdain was talking about how the person with the most nasty germs that worked in one of his restaurants was the militant vegan.
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It took awhile but a DUmmie finally nailed it. It's the pink slime mold that grows on ice machine output chutes that causes the nasties.
As to the girlies scientific method, flushing to get fresh water is cheating your results.
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I bet cali's former employer had a free earwig frozen into every ice cube.