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Title: Romney up by 6 in latest Gallup poll
Post by: Texacon on October 18, 2012, 04:22:03 PM
Romney up by 6 in latest Gallup poll (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021575881)

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ObaMania (2,037 posts)


Romney up by 6 in latest Gallup poll

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/18/mitt-romney-gallup-poll_n_1979318.html?ref=@pollster&icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl1|sec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D222030

With 19 days left before election? We are truly fu@ked.

I've been waiting for this one.

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The Velveteen Ocelot (32,770 posts)

1. Have you been paying attention here? Gallup is a total outlier

that oversamples Southern Republicans?

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AverageJoe90 (2,690 posts)

7. Shoddy polling just like Pew did a couple weeks back.


*******. Don't think it's a conspiracy but HOLY ****, this is getting annoying.

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Cali_Democrat (12,878 posts)

4. You need to read DU more before you post.

SMH

 :lmao:

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Cattledog (721 posts)

8. The Mainstream Media will promote this!

This is not good news.

This could get fun!

KC
Title: Re: Romney up by 6 in latest Gallup poll
Post by: franksolich on October 18, 2012, 04:26:22 PM
I just looked, as something seemed off in the primitive post.

Gallup has Romney 52%, Barack Milhous 45%.

Isn't that seven points, rather than six?

Or is my arithmetic off?
Title: Re: Romney up by 6 in latest Gallup poll
Post by: WinOne4TheGipper on October 18, 2012, 04:33:52 PM
I just looked, as something seemed off in the primitive post.

Gallup has Romney 52%, Barack Milhous 45%.

Isn't that seven points, rather than six?

Or is my arithmetic off?

6 points is from yesterday.  We gained a point today.
Title: Re: Romney up by 6 in latest Gallup poll
Post by: miskie on October 18, 2012, 04:39:12 PM
..needless to say, the party broke up the post went *poof*..

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Title: Re: Romney up by 6 in latest Gallup poll
Post by: jukin on October 18, 2012, 04:43:33 PM
After spiking the polls by double digit democrat party members the polls will have to start making a slow turn back toward reality.

I'm not letting this sway my determination to fight against the forces of evil and continue to make calls for Romney and other races. We need the senate and i can't believe that the established republicans are not assisting Akin in what is a very vulnerable senate seat. The democrats sure would have stuck with whatever idiotic things come out of their mouths.
Title: Re: Romney up by 6 in latest Gallup poll
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on October 18, 2012, 04:59:11 PM
There's only 1 poll that matters...

...the election day exit polling.
Title: Re: Romney up by 6 in latest Gallup poll
Post by: DefiantSix on October 18, 2012, 05:02:19 PM
There's only 1 poll that matters...

...the election day exit polling.

Yup.  That'll be the tool used to establish the meme that rMoney stole the election from The Holy WON of Chicago. :fuelfire:

All the howling DUmp posts will be referencing it on Election night.
Title: Re: Romney up by 6 in latest Gallup poll
Post by: franksolich on October 18, 2012, 05:04:41 PM
..needless to say, the party broke up the post went *poof*..

Whoa.

You're right; it evaporated.
Title: Re: Romney up by 6 in latest Gallup poll
Post by: Mr Mannn on October 18, 2012, 05:19:19 PM
..needless to say, the party broke up the post went *poof*..
Whoa.

You're right; it evaporated.

Well now. If they can't handle 6 points, then they are truly children.
CC didn't disappear threads in the 08 election. But then we don't build foundations upon the "It was all stolen!" theme. DUmmies are really setting themselves up for a fall this time. Didn't California pass a law that their electoral votes automatically go to the winner of the popular vote? That means the state will vote for BamBam, and Romney gets an even BIGGER tally.

This is gonna be fun. The screaming, the protests, the occupiers mass pooping in fear, the Guy Fawkes masks spontaneously bursting in flame....I took November 7th off...just to savor the despair.
Title: Re: Romney up by 6 in latest Gallup poll
Post by: DefiantSix on October 18, 2012, 05:30:56 PM
Well now. If they can't handle 6 points, then they are truly children.
CC didn't disappear threads in the 08 election. But then we don't build foundations upon the "It was all stolen!" theme. DUmmies are really setting themselves up for a fall this time. Didn't California pass a law that their electoral votes automatically go to the winner of the popular vote? That means the state will vote for BamBam, and Romney gets an even BIGGER tally.

This is gonna be fun. The screaming, the protests, the occupiers mass pooping in fear, the Guy Fawkes masks spontaneously bursting in flame....I took November 7th off...just to savor the despair.

It's gonna be sweet, isn't it! DUmmy tears and anguish flowing through the streets like utopian rivers of milk and honey; the sounds of disciples of the Holy WON of Chicago weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth floating on the breeze...
Title: Re: Romney up by 6 in latest Gallup poll
Post by: Skul on October 18, 2012, 05:32:04 PM
Just out of curiousity, who determines where exit polls are conducted?
I can't get over the feeling that locations are choosen for the purpose of advancing the polsters own views.
Even an honest poll wouldn't reflect the truth.
Conservatives tend to be a bit more private, and the libs are just plain mouthy.
I wouldn't trust an exit poll anymore than I would trust the government with my money.
Title: Re: Romney up by 6 in latest Gallup poll
Post by: Rufus2010 on October 18, 2012, 05:35:21 PM
The clowns on the All Barack Channel (aka ABC) were saying Zero is currently leading in Iowa and Wisconsin... heard on Hannity earlier it was currently a mix-up . Keep it up Dingdong Sawyer! :mental:

And CBS already had Ohio showing Zero as having taken over. ::)
Title: Re: Romney up by 6 in latest Gallup poll
Post by: miskie on October 18, 2012, 06:00:40 PM
Just out of curiousity, who determines where exit polls are conducted?
I can't get over the feeling that locations are choosen for the purpose of advancing the polsters own views.
Even an honest poll wouldn't reflect the truth.
Conservatives tend to be a bit more private, and the libs are just plain mouthy.
I wouldn't trust an exit poll anymore than I would trust the government with my money.

Nobody trusts them but Richard Charnin, who uses entirely inappropriate mathematical simulations to prove every election won by a Republican has been 'stolen'.

He is absolutely insane. Need proof ?  http://richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2012/10/17/update-daily-presidential-true-voteelection-fraud-forecast-model/

Quote from: Raving Lunatic
Updated Daily: Presidential True Vote/Election Fraud Forecast Model

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OCT
Updated Daily: Presidential True Vote/Election Fraud Forecast Model
Richard Charnin

The 2012 Presidential True Vote and Monte Carlo Simulation Forecast Model is updated on a daily basis. The election is assumed to be held on the latest poll date. Link to this post for the daily update summary. This worksheet contains the weekly polling trend analysis.

The source of the polling data is the Real Clear Politics (RCP) website. The simulation uses the latest state polls. Recorded 2008 vote shares are used for states which have not yet been polled.

10/18/2012
Obama has 297 expected electoral votes and a 87.6% win probability (438 of 500 simulated elections).
He leads the state polls by 48.1-45.9%.
He leads in 12 of 17 Battleground states by 48-46% with 122 of 198 EV.
Romney leads the RCP National Poll average by 47.7-46.7%.

The True Vote Model indicates that Obama would have 54.5% and 358 expected EV in a fraud-free election. Will he be able to overcome the systemic fraud factor?


 
Title: Re: Romney up by 6 in latest Gallup poll
Post by: NHSparky on October 18, 2012, 06:05:25 PM
So who's gonna hack DU with the "All Your White House Are Belong To Us" like they did with the 2002 midterms and Senate?
Title: Re: Romney up by 6 in latest Gallup poll
Post by: Texacon on October 18, 2012, 06:10:21 PM
Win, lose, or draw, if O'bama had done a decent job this election would never be this close. The DUMMIES need to wake up to that fact.

KC
Title: Re: Romney up by 6 in latest Gallup poll
Post by: Mr Mannn on October 18, 2012, 06:11:48 PM
So who's gonna hack DU with the "All Your White House Are Belong To Us" like they did with the 2002 midterms and Senate?
Maybe those mysterious "Friends of Steve Dawes?"
Title: Re: Romney up by 6 in latest Gallup poll
Post by: Skul on October 18, 2012, 06:12:35 PM
Thanks, Miskie.
I read a little in the web site. Was interested that the polling is done by "six corperate media giants".
I presume he means ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC and a local Fox channel.   :whistling:
Title: Re: Romney up by 6 in latest Gallup poll
Post by: WinOne4TheGipper on October 18, 2012, 06:30:05 PM
Nobody trusts them but Richard Charnin, who uses entirely inappropriate mathematical simulations to prove every election won by a Republican has been 'stolen'.

He is absolutely insane. Need proof ?  http://richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2012/10/17/update-daily-presidential-true-voteelection-fraud-forecast-model/

 

I wonder when he'll discover the truth:

There are no real "average Republican people".  The Republican Party is secretively just the 100 richest guys in the country and no one else.  How do they pull off the appearance of being half of the country?  Easy:

1) Any post you see online from someone claiming to be a Republican is just random words from a secret computer in a remote Siberian hut.
2) if you see a Republican bumper sticker or yard sign, be advised that it is a sophisticated digital optical illusion.  The car or home owner is not aware that their Obama/Biden material is being secretly altered by Karl Rove from his Austin, TX lair.
3) all of those delegates at the republican convention?  They were just average people picked up off the street and hypnotized into thinking they were watching a basketball game.  Think about it.  Why else would it be held at an arena?  These bastards are good.
Title: Re: Romney up by 6 in latest Gallup poll
Post by: GOP Congress on October 18, 2012, 06:55:53 PM
Let's take a look at the southern racist redneck state of ...

...Pennsylvania??

ROMNEY 49%  OBAMA 45%

http://washingtonexaminer.com/poll-shows-romney-leading-in-blue-pennsylvania/article/2511153#.UICHI-xPE1o

So much for their new theory.
Title: Re: Romney up by 6 in latest Gallup poll
Post by: Kyle Ricky on October 18, 2012, 07:04:28 PM
When Der Fuehrer is winning there is no fixing (Even with proof that they are over sampling Dems), and when he is losing, they are fixed. Gee who would have thunked it? I can't wait to hear all the boohooing when Der Kaiser loses. They will be throwing the race card, and fraud card around like crazy.
Title: Re: Romney up by 6 in latest Gallup poll
Post by: Skul on October 18, 2012, 07:11:27 PM
I wonder when he'll discover the truth:

There are no real "average Republican people".  The Republican Party is secretively just the 100 richest guys in the country and no one else.  How do they pull off the appearance of being half of the country?  Easy:

1) Any post you see online from someone claiming to be a Republican is just random words from a secret computer in a remote Siberian hut. Must be Peggy. :-)
2) if you see a Republican bumper sticker or yard sign, be advised that it is a sophisticated digital optical illusion.  The car or home owner is not aware that their Obama/Biden material is being secretly altered by Karl Rove from his Austin, TX lair.
3) all of those delegates at the republican convention?  They were just average people picked up off the street and hypnotized into thinking they were watching a basketball game.  Think about it.  Why else would it be held at an arena?  These bastards are good.
To good to pass up.  :lmao:
Title: Re: Romney up by 6 in latest Gallup poll
Post by: docstew on October 18, 2012, 07:13:45 PM
Well now. If they can't handle 6 points, then they are truly children.
CC didn't disappear threads in the 08 election. But then we don't build foundations upon the "It was all stolen!" theme. DUmmies are really setting themselves up for a fall this time. Didn't California pass a law that their electoral votes automatically go to the winner of the popular vote? That means the state will vote for BamBam, and Romney gets an even BIGGER tally.

This is gonna be fun. The screaming, the protests, the occupiers mass pooping in fear, the Guy Fawkes masks spontaneously bursting in flame....I took November 7th off...just to savor the despair.

Is this true? Does CA actually give their EC votes to the winner of the national popular vote?

O might not break triple digits...
Title: Re: Romney up by 6 in latest Gallup poll
Post by: Ballygrl on October 18, 2012, 07:17:45 PM
From Twitter:

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PublicPolicyPolling ‏@ppppolls

Our Iowa poll tomorrow is going to be a whole lot better for Romney than the NBC one tonight


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DRUDGE REPORT DRUDGE REPORT ‏@DRUDGE_REPORT

PA SHOCK POLL: ROMNEY PULLS AHEAD BY 4 POINTS...
Title: Re: Romney up by 6 in latest Gallup poll
Post by: Skul on October 18, 2012, 07:18:49 PM
Is this true? Does CA actually give their EC votes to the winner of the national popular vote?

O might not break triple digits...
I think he means the CA, popular vote.

<----Not sure
Title: Re: Romney up by 6 in latest Gallup poll
Post by: miskie on October 18, 2012, 07:22:12 PM
Is this true? Does CA actually give their EC votes to the winner of the national popular vote?

O might not break triple digits...

They just made that change this summer, over continuing anger over Bush/Gore.  Whoever wins the popular vote in a presidential election, gets the electoral votes.

I suspect there are lots of behind-the-scenes shuffling to undo that law, just like they worked to undo 'Proposition 8'

link here .. http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/state&id=8296767

and one sentence, since I don't know if this source is quotable or not.   "Gov. Jerry Brown on Monday signed a bill that will give all of California's 55 electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote."
Title: Re: Romney up by 6 in latest Gallup poll
Post by: Ballygrl on October 18, 2012, 07:22:39 PM
Is this true? Does CA actually give their EC votes to the winner of the national popular vote?

O might not break triple digits...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact

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The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact (NPVIC) is an agreement among several U.S. states. States passing this interstate compact have agreed to replace their current rules regarding the apportionment of presidential electors with rules guaranteeing the election of the presidential candidate with the most popular votes in all fifty states and Washington, D.C. The agreement is to go into effect only when the participating states that have joined the compact together have an absolute majority in the Electoral College. In the subsequent presidential election, the participating states would award all their electoral votes to the national popular vote winner, who as a result would win the presidency by winning more than half of electoral votes. Until the compact is joined by states with a majority of electoral votes, all states will continue to award their electoral votes in their current manner.

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As of April 2012, the compact has been joined by eight states and the District of Columbia (see map); their 132 combined electoral votes amount to 24.5% of the Electoral College and 49% of the 270 votes needed for the compact to go into effect.

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Two governors who have vetoed NPVIC legislation, Arnold Schwarzenegger of California and Linda Lingle of Hawaii, both in 2007, objected to the compact on the grounds that it could require their states' electoral votes to be awarded to a candidate who did not win statewide. Both states have since enacted laws joining the compact. Supporters of the compact have countered that under the popular vote system, the awarding of electoral votes would be effectively irrelevant; that giving the state's electoral votes to the national winner would be a mere symbolic formality with no political meaning, because the popular vote would have already determined the outcome.
Title: Re: Romney up by 6 in latest Gallup poll
Post by: Ballygrl on October 18, 2012, 07:24:20 PM
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Although supporters of the compact believe the compact would be valid without congressional approval, some critics[specify] maintain that the congressional approval is necessary before the NPVIC can go into effect. Article I, Section 10 of the US Constitution states that

No State shall, without the Consent of Congress . . . enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power.

The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled in Virginia v. Tennessee, 148 U.S. 503 (1893), and several more recent cases, that such consent is not necessary except where a compact encroaches on federal supremacy. Every Vote Equal argues that the compact could never encroach upon federal power since the Constitution explicitly gives the power of casting electoral votes to the states, not the federal government. Derek Muller, an opponent of the compact, argues that the NPVIC would nonetheless affect the federal system in such a way that it requires Congressional approval. Regardless, supporters of the NPVIC plan to seek congressional approval if the compact is approved by a sufficient number of states.
Title: Re: Romney up by 6 in latest Gallup poll
Post by: Kyle Ricky on October 18, 2012, 07:24:42 PM
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@TwitchyTeam 7 mins
Left in full meltdown over Gallup poll; 'It's over,' declares Bob Beckel; Others in denial

They said Beckel said on 'The Five' today that if this gallop poll is correction, the election is over and Romney won?

Read more: http://twitchy.com/2012/10/18/left-in-full-meltdown-over-gallup-poll-its-over-declares-bob-beckel-others-in-denial/?utm_source=autotweet&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=twitter

I think with how long Beckel has been involved in this stuff, I believe him.