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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Tucker on October 18, 2012, 05:12:55 AM
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Th1onein (4,954 posts)
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Another young kid trapped into acting as a terrorist by the FBI
From MSN: http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/17/14514354-plot-to-attack-federal-reserve-in-nyc-suspect-thought-he-had-1000-pound-bomb-authorities-say?lite
He allegedly sought out al-Qaida contacts to help him, unknowingly recruiting an FBI source in the process. At that point, the FBI and NYPD began monitoring him as he developed the plot, prosecutors said.
An undercover FBI agent posed as an al-Qaida facilitator, supplying him with 20 50-pound bags of what he thought were explosives to use in building his bomb. Nafis also visited the Lower Manhattan site multiple times as he planned the attack, officials said.
The complaint said he told an agent in July that he wanted "something very big ... that will shake the whole country."
Prosecutors say Nafis met the agent Wednesday morning and put the bomb inside a van before driving to the Fed building, assembling the detonator while he drove.
nycbiscuit (35 posts)
1. How was he trapped
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if he was the one seeking out al Qaeda contacts?
Th1onein (4,954 posts)
3. These "stings" usually have a common theme:
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"An undercover FBI agent posed as an al-Qaida facilitator, supplying him with 20 50-pound bags of what he thought were explosives to use in building his bomb. "
What happens is this: The young kid, full of spit and vinegar, probably takes some shit from somebody, making fun of his nationality, or his country, etc. Starts talking how tough he is, or how tough his country is, gets a little carried away, and is turned in by someone, to the FBI. FBI poses as an "al-Qaida facilitator," to get the ball rolling, challenges him to put up or shut up, and then supplies him with the fake bomb, etc. BINGO! You done caught yourself a real live "Terrorist." Nevermind that this could would never have lifted a finger to hurt this country had not the FBI undercover agent "facilitated" him. He's, by God, a terrorist and we dun protected 'Murika' by arresting him.
This really is such bullshit. It's pure and simple entrapment. And, if you read about these cases, time and time again, you see the pattern emerging. It's always the same.
All supposition. It could be that the kids a wanna-be mass murderer.
nycbiscuit (35 posts)
11. facilitated by
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and entrapment are two different things.
You make it sound like he would have been just as happy blowing up some fireworks, except for the feds pushing and prodding him to act out with bigger and better plans.
Th1onein (4,954 posts)
14. YOU GOT IT!
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I doubt he would have done ANYTHING. He has been a student in this country for a while, without having done ANYTHING. I am making it sound exactly like it probably was: he would have done nothing if he had not been prodded and pushed to act out with bigger and better plans. Who, after all, got him the "bomb"?
Melanie is raked over the coals. I suspect that she may DUmp the DUmp.
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I've got to give Th1onein a little bit of credit. She's not trying to disguise her hated of America and the FBI and her love for terrorists just because DU's lord and savior is holding the highest office.
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Usually in situations like this "Just say no" works.
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If she's lurking....
Do you know if you say "gullible" slow enough, it sounds like "oranges"?
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I've got to give Th1onein a little bit of credit. She's not trying to disguise her hated of America and the FBI and her love for terrorists just because DU's lord and savior is holding the highest office.
Actually her first love is murderers on death row.
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Actually her first love is murderers on death row.
They were tricked into killing those people.
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I remember her. She is loathsome. It's people like her that stood by as hitler killed Jews and played the dutiful apologist. She and her type are just as dangerous to humanity as the actual perpetrators. I've always wondered what leads someone like this to develop a pattern of thinking that considers the most vile of human beings as underdogs? Perhaps frank can reveal her psyche.
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The next thing you know she'll exclaim that there's 1000s of bodies hanging in the trees....no wait!
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Th1onein (4,954 posts)
14. YOU GOT IT!
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I doubt he would have done ANYTHING. He has been a student in this country for a while, without having done ANYTHING. I am making it sound exactly like it probably was: he would have done nothing if he had not been prodded and pushed to act out with bigger and better plans. Who, after all, got him the "bomb"?
He has been in this country on student visa since January 2012.
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BINGO! You done caught yourself a real live "Terrorist." Nevermind that this [kid] would never have lifted a finger to hurt this country had not the FBI undercover agent "facilitated" him. He's, by God, a terrorist and we dun protected 'Murika' by arresting him.
Don't you just want to haul off and smack her? People like her is what give democrats a bad name when it comes to defense and security. You handed GWB a second term, Melanie.
Moonbattery like this is what may sink your messiah once and for all, stupid bitch.
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Don't you just want to haul off and smack her? People like her is what give democrats a bad name when it comes to defense and security. You handed GWB a second term, Melanie.
Moonbattery like this is what may sink your messiah once and for all, stupid bitch.
A few years ago, she was pen pals with some convicted murderer in prison. She spent most of her day on DU claiming he was innocent or some such garbage.
She came over to our old home and squawked and complained about us discussing her new 'friend'. She's a middle-aged woman with all the sense of a 13-year-old.
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A few years ago, she was pen pals with some convicted murderer in prison. She spent most of her day on DU claiming he was innocent or some such garbage.
She came over to our old home and squawked and complained about us discussing her new 'friend'. She's a middle-aged woman with all the sense of a 13-year-old.
Tookie Williams.
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Tookie Williams.
Thank you.
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Th1onein: the dream moron of crooked defense attorneys everywhere.
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Th1onein (4,954 posts)
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BINGO! You done caught yourself a real live "Terrorist." Nevermind that this could would never have lifted a finger to hurt this country had not the FBI undercover agent "facilitated" him. He's, by God, a terrorist and we dun protected 'Murika' by arresting him.
This really is such bullshit. It's pure and simple entrapment. And, if you read about these cases, time and time again, you see the pattern emerging. It's always the same.
:whatever:
That's the kind of stupid cup size can't overcome...
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I've got to give Th1onein a little bit of credit. She's not trying to disguise her hated of America and the FBI and her love for terrorists just because DU's lord and savior is holding the highest office.
Which is the only problem with the other primtives going along with her whacko theory. If Bush were in office, they'd be agreeing with her.
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Tookie Williams.
I believe it is now the former Tookie Williams
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Th1onein (4,954 posts)
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BINGO! You done caught yourself a real live "Terrorist." Nevermind that this could would never have lifted a finger to hurt this country had not the FBI undercover agent "facilitated" him. He's, by God, a terrorist and we dun protected 'Murika' by arresting him.
This really is such bullshit. It's pure and simple entrapment. And, if you read about these cases, time and time again, you see the pattern emerging. It's always the same.
You're an idiot...and shit like this is prime example of why we call you DUmmies.
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Melanie thinks...
I doubt that. I've certainly seen no evidence to that effect. :thatsright:
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psssst...hey Buddy....wanna buy a 1,000 lb. bomb and blow up some shit? :-)
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psssst...hey Buddy....wanna buy a 1,000 lb. bomb and blow up some shit? :-)
Ummm, why does your shirt button keep winking at me?
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A few years ago, she was pen pals with some convicted murderer in prison. She spent most of her day on DU claiming he was innocent or some such garbage.
She came over to our old home and squawked and complained about us discussing her new 'friend'. She's a middle-aged woman with all the sense of a 13-year-old.
The bolded part describes most dems around me.
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psssst...hey Buddy....wanna buy a 1,000 lb. bomb and blow up some shit? :-)
Not only that, the FBI moved in after he had made the cell phone call to the detonator! That way, there's no defense--they have him cold.