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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Ralph Wiggum on May 28, 2008, 10:58:23 AM
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emad (1000+ posts)
Wed May-28-08 07:34 AM
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John Bolton to be target of citizen's arrest at Hay Festival
Source: Telegraph
John Bolton, the former US ambassador to the United Nations, faces a citizen's arrest when he addresses an audience at the Hay Festival in Wales this evening.
George Monbiot, the journalist and activist, is planning the action because he believes Mr Bolton is a "war criminal".
He said he was surprised that a "war criminal" sach as Mr Bolton would be allowed to "swim through the politest of polite soirees – which is of course Hay."
Mr Bolton, who was the American ambassador to the UN from August 2005 to January 2006, is due to talk at the Hay-on-Wye literary festival at 6.30pm on international relations.
Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/...
Good luck to Monbiot...
Oh noes, not a citizen's arrest!!!! :whatever: :whatever:
And what an appropriate name....George Monbiot. :-)
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I think that what these idiots think is going to be a "citizen's arrest" is going to be viewed by the courts as an "assault" and "attempted kidnapping". Let us know how this works out, moonbats.
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Sic'em Gomer.....uh....better take Goober along for backup.
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From the BBC:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/x-ray/sites/allarticles/updates/6p04_citizensarrest.shtml (http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/x-ray/sites/allarticles/updates/6p04_citizensarrest.shtml)
We asked former chief superintendent of South Wales Police, Gerry Toms, for the low down. He said:
"Citizen's arrest is definitely not a myth. There is a power of arrest for civilians - that means any individual can arrest for an offence, as long as it is a serious one which can be upheld in court. We're talking about offences of theft from cars, damage, burglary, assault - serious cases like that ... It's important to point out that you can only carry out an arrest if the police are not present; it's not practical for them to be there to do it for you ... Always remember that you should never put yourself in a position of danger. Always call the police first."
What if you do decide to carry out a citizen's arrest? Is there anything in particular you should be aware of?
"First of all, a word of caution. If you decide to carry out an arrest you can use reasonable force, but it has to be reasonable in the circumstances. You cannot use excessive force. If you were to use excessive force, you may leave yourself open to a charge of assault."
"The other thing to remember is that if you make an arrest, you should tell the person what you're arresting them for, that's very important. And finally, if you carry out an arrest, you will have to give a statement to the police about the arrest, and it may well be that you have to give evidence in court."
Oh, yeah. This is gonna go over really well in the British court system. ::)
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These whackos won't be allowed anywhere near Bolton. Sounds like some stupid press release by a desperate group of nobodys hoping to get noticed.
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...as long as it is a serious one which can be upheld in court...
Not that John Bolton was worried, but this line pretty much ensures that he'll have no problem. Nothing the DUmmies say or believe will ever hold up in court.
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emad (1000+ posts)
Wed May-28-08 07:34 AM
Original message
John Bolton to be target of citizen's arrest at Hay Festival
Source: Telegraph
John Bolton, the former US ambassador to the United Nations, faces a citizen's arrest when he addresses an audience at the Hay Festival in Wales this evening.
George Monbiot, the journalist and activist, is planning the action because he believes Mr Bolton is a "war criminal".
He said he was surprised that a "war criminal" sach as Mr Bolton would be allowed to "swim through the politest of polite soirees – which is of course Hay."
Mr Bolton, who was the American ambassador to the UN from August 2005 to January 2006, is due to talk at the Hay-on-Wye literary festival at 6.30pm on international relations.
Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/...
Good luck to Monbiot...
Oh noes, not a citizen's arrest!!!! :whatever: :whatever:
And what an appropriate name....George Monbiot. :-)
Actually Ralph, he may be the Mother Of All Moonbats:
moonbat n. (barking moonbat) [Play on the name George Monbiot, radical left-wing British columnist, with the connotations of moon = "lunatic" and bat = "batty". Coined in 2002 by Perry de Havilland, the editor of Samizdata.] Pejorative. 1. Extremists. 2. Left-wing partisans, especially left-wing bloggers.
http://www.langmaker.com/db/Moonbat (http://www.langmaker.com/db/Moonbat)
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The fool was blocked from behaving like a typical lib loser.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/2044737/John-Bolton-escapes-citizen%27s-arrest-at-Hay-Festival.html
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The fool was blocked from behaving like a typical lib loser.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/2044737/John-Bolton-escapes-citizen%27s-arrest-at-Hay-Festival.html
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The tragic news has reached DU :rotf:
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emad (1000+ posts)
Wed May-28-08 07:34 AM
Original message
John Bolton to be target of citizen's arrest at Hay Festival
Source: Telegraph
John Bolton, the former US ambassador to the United Nations, faces a citizen's arrest when he addresses an audience at the Hay Festival in Wales this evening.
George Monbiot, the journalist and activist, is planning the action because he believes Mr Bolton is a "war criminal".
He said he was surprised that a "war criminal" sach as Mr Bolton would be allowed to "swim through the politest of polite soirees – which is of course Hay."
Mr Bolton, who was the American ambassador to the UN from August 2005 to January 2006, is due to talk at the Hay-on-Wye literary festival at 6.30pm on international relations.
Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/...
Good luck to Monbiot...
Oh noes, not a citizen's arrest!!!! :whatever: :whatever:
And what an appropriate name....George Monbiot. :-)
Actually Ralph, he may be the Mother Of All Moonbats:
moonbat n. (barking moonbat) [Play on the name George Monbiot, radical left-wing British columnist, with the connotations of moon = "lunatic" and bat = "batty". Coined in 2002 by Perry de Havilland, the editor of Samizdata.] Pejorative. 1. Extremists. 2. Left-wing partisans, especially left-wing bloggers.
http://www.langmaker.com/db/Moonbat (http://www.langmaker.com/db/Moonbat)
Thanks, Dandi. I thought the name sounded familiar.
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Earlier, festival director Peter Florence had said they had sought legal advice and been told carrying out such an arrest would be "completely unlawful" given the circumstances.
Note to DUmmies who think they might try this in Texas. Two words of wisdom.
Castle Doctrine.
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The moonbats should be careful
John Bolton's moustache might go ninja
and slay them all.
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The fool was blocked from behaving like a typical lib loser.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/2044737/John-Bolton-escapes-citizen%27s-arrest-at-Hay-Festival.html
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3352129
The tragic news has reached DU :rotf:
It would've been much cooler if they'd Tazed him. I would've loved seeing that on YouTube. :rotf:
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Actually Ralph, he may be the Mother Of All Moonbats:
moonbat n. (barking moonbat) [Play on the name George Monbiot, radical left-wing British columnist, with the connotations of moon = "lunatic" and bat = "batty". Coined in 2002 by Perry de Havilland, the editor of Samizdata.] Pejorative. 1. Extremists. 2. Left-wing partisans, especially left-wing bloggers.
http://www.langmaker.com/db/Moonbat (http://www.langmaker.com/db/Moonbat)
This is correct - Though I wonder (aside) -- are moonbats like Vampires ? Does killing the head one end their Reign of Error ?
(*miskie does not endorse the killing of Monbiot -- where would we get our entertainment from if someone did, and it ended the plague ? )
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Only when pigs fly.
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Poor DUmmies
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/2044737/John-Bolton-escapes-citizen%E2%80%99s-arrest-at-Hay-Festival.html
John Bolton escapes citizen's arrest at Hay Festival
By Stephen Adams, Arts Correspondent
John Bolton, the former US ambassador to the United Nations, has escaped an attempted citizen's arrest as he appeared at the Hay Festival.
Security guards blocked the path of columnist and activist George Monbiot, who tried to make the arrest as Mr Bolton left the stage.
The former ambassador - a key advisor to President George W Bush who argued strongly in favour of invading Iraq - had been giving a talk on international relations to more than 600 people at the literary festival.
Mr Monbiot was blocked by two heavily-built security guards at the end of the one-and-a-half hour appearance, before he could serve a "charge sheet" on him.
After being released by the guards the columnist - a fierce critic of the 2003 American-led invasion - made a dash through the rain-soaked tented village in a failed attempt to catch up with Mr Bolton.
A crowd of about 20 protestors, one dressed in a latex George Bush mask, chanted "war criminal" as Mr Bolton was ushered away.
Mr Monbiot said moments later he was "disappointed" that he had been blocked from making the citizen's arrest.
"This was a serious attempt to bring one of the perpetrators of the Iraq war to justice, for what is described under the Nuremberg Principles as an international crime," he said.
During Mr Bolton's talk, to a packed-out audience, Mr Monbiot had asked Mr Bolton what difference there was between him and a Nazi war criminal.
Mr Bolton said the war was legal, partly because Iraq had failed to comply with a key and binding UN resolution after the end of the Gulf War in 1991.
On the war's legality, he added: "This is not my personal opinion, this is the opinion of the entire legal apparatus of the US government."
A citizen's arrest can be carried out under certain circumstances by a member of the public, if they believe a person had carried out a crime, under the Serious and Organised Crime and Police Act 2005.
Earlier, festival director Peter Florence had said they had sought legal advice and been told carrying out such an arrest would be "completely unlawful" given the circumstances.
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