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Title: Romney/Ryan and the '7.8%' unemployment number futzing
Post by: BattleHymn on October 08, 2012, 10:14:09 PM
I was just thinking, if Romney/Ryan are elected in November, how are they going to handle the bogus 7.8% number the White Hut is pushing out there right now? 

If they are honest, the number will shoot up to around the 11% or 12% that it really is.  What can be done about this?

Title: Re: Romney/Ryan and the '7.8%' unemployment number futzing
Post by: Texacon on October 08, 2012, 10:23:25 PM
Romney and all our newly elected Congressmen and Senators won't take office until January. That should give the numbers time to right themselves. Then when it gets a LOT better faster we'll be set.

KC
Title: Re: Romney/Ryan and the '7.8%' unemployment number futzing
Post by: thundley4 on October 08, 2012, 10:24:09 PM
After November the UE number will be allowed by Obama's minions to reach it's realistic numbers.  When Romney gets sworn in the media will hit him hard with it.  However, I also believe that if Romney wins and conservatives keep the house and take the senate then unemployment will start going down, because companies won't fear the current uncertainty that is prevalent right now.
Title: Re: Romney/Ryan and the '7.8%' unemployment number futzing
Post by: BattleHymn on October 08, 2012, 10:30:18 PM
I agree with thundley on the point of businesses relaxing their capital, after an adult gets back in the White Hut.  I'm just concerned about the mess that this administration will try to dump into their lap. 
Title: Re: Romney/Ryan and the '7.8%' unemployment number futzing
Post by: Ballygrl on October 08, 2012, 10:30:47 PM
Romney/Ryan need to bring this up:

[youtube=425,350]3QVXQPiwPd4[/youtube]

Title: Re: Romney/Ryan and the '7.8%' unemployment number futzing
Post by: docstew on October 09, 2012, 04:03:59 AM
After November the UE number will be allowed by Obama's minions to reach it's realistic numbers.  When Romney gets sworn in the media will hit him hard with it.  However, I also believe that if Romney wins and conservatives keep the house and take the senate then unemployment will start going down, because companies won't fear the current uncertainty that is prevalent right now.

It'll also forever show liberals to be liars, since they've been claiming for 2 years that no one could have fixed the economy that O inherited. O will be leaving one that is worse. Romney will have to deal with it with a sense of urgency. His first 100 day "honeymoon" with the press will be more like 100 minutes before they say he lied about "day 1" priorities.
Title: Re: Romney/Ryan and the '7.8%' unemployment number futzing
Post by: thundley4 on October 09, 2012, 01:13:43 PM
It'll also forever show liberals to be liars, since they've been claiming for 2 years that no one could have fixed the economy that O inherited. O will be leaving one that is worse. Romney will have to deal with it with a sense of urgency. His first 100 day "honeymoon" with the press will be more like 100 minutes before they say he lied about "day 1" priorities.

The difference is that Romney won't spend two years trying to pass a healthcare bill like Obama did.  ObamaCare was a law designed to hurt the economy and give the government more control, not help anyone.
Title: Re: Re: Romney/Ryan and the '7.8%' unemployment number futzing
Post by: DLR Pyro on October 09, 2012, 01:23:30 PM
My daily commute takes me by the obama/biden campaign office in Laguna Beach. This morning I noticed a crudely hand drawn sign in the window thaw merely said "7.8". I'm curious if they will be changing this sign when the number is revised up in a few weeks.
Title: Re: Re: Romney/Ryan and the '7.8%' unemployment number futzing
Post by: NHSparky on October 09, 2012, 10:14:25 PM
My daily commute takes me by the obama/biden campaign office in Laguna Beach. This morning I noticed a crudely hand drawn sign in the window thaw merely said "7.8". I'm curious if they will be changing this sign when the number is revised up in a few weeks.

Probably not.  And of course, if someone put up a 14.7 sign, or one that says, $16,000,000,000,000, I don't think it would last long.

And what's unemployment in CA again?  11-12 percent?  And gas prices are what?  $4.50/gallon?  All those signs are worth putting up.
Title: Re: Romney/Ryan and the '7.8%' unemployment number futzing
Post by: Revolution on October 09, 2012, 11:07:52 PM
28 days to go. :)
Title: Re: Romney/Ryan and the '7.8%' unemployment number futzing
Post by: BattleHymn on October 09, 2012, 11:11:40 PM
What's the latest in WI, Rev?  Any word?
Title: Re: Romney/Ryan and the '7.8%' unemployment number futzing
Post by: Zeus on October 10, 2012, 04:13:56 AM
After November the UE number will be allowed by Obama's minions to reach it's realistic numbers.  When Romney gets sworn in the media will hit him hard with it.  However, I also believe that if Romney wins and conservatives keep the house and take the senate then unemployment will start going down, because companies won't fear the current uncertainty that is prevalent right now.

I agree with thundley on the point of businesses relaxing their capital, after an adult gets back in the White Hut.  I'm just concerned about the mess that this administration will try to dump into their lap.  

It's all going to hinge on whether the Bush Taxcuts are going to be allowed to expire and/or if there is a move to reinstate them, as in made permanent and not just brought back with a expiration down the road a yr or two.

A sensible tax policy and changes in Business regulation could go a long way in bringing back in country the estimated 15 trillion dollars that's left the country. Imagine if just a quarter of that came back what a infusion of 3.75 trillion dollars would do for the economy.
Title: Re: Romney/Ryan and the '7.8%' unemployment number futzing
Post by: Toastedturningtidelegs on October 11, 2012, 11:05:41 AM
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-10-11/data-massaging-continues-initial-claims-tumble-339k-lowest-2008-far-below-lowest-exp I wonder which state that could be????? ::)
Title: Re: Re: Re: Romney/Ryan and the '7.8%' unemployment number futzing
Post by: DLR Pyro on October 11, 2012, 01:19:42 PM
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-10-11/data-massaging-continues-initial-claims-tumble-339k-lowest-2008-far-below-lowest-exp I wonder which state that could be????? ::)
California according to Rush.
Title: Re: Romney/Ryan and the '7.8%' unemployment number futzing
Post by: Kyle Ricky on October 11, 2012, 04:12:16 PM
Rep. Issa is opening an investigation into the fudged numbers. Even he doesn't believe them. Some one is lying somewhere.

The more I see what Issa is doing, the more I like him. I wish he was Rep. in my area. I would be congratulating him on a great job every day ...
Title: Re: Romney/Ryan and the '7.8%' unemployment number futzing
Post by: thundley4 on October 11, 2012, 04:27:38 PM
Obama made it legal for 1.7 million illegal immigrants to join the work force.  Why don't the workforce numbers include that sudden jump?  That should have driven Unemployment up, way up.
Title: Re: Romney/Ryan and the '7.8%' unemployment number futzing
Post by: DLR Pyro on October 18, 2012, 09:36:36 AM
Quote
Weekly applications for U.S. unemployment benefits jumped 46,000 last week to a seasonally adjusted 388,000, the highest in four months. The increase represents a rebound from the previous week's sharp drop. Both swings were largely due to technical factors.
The Labor Department says the four-week average of applications, a less volatile measure, fell slightly to 365,500, a level consistent with modest hiring.

Last week, California reported a large drop in applications, pushing down the overall figure to the lowest since February 2008.

This week, it reported a significant increase as it processed applications delayed from the previous week.
 
California finally got around to reporting their numbers... (http://www.cnbc.com/id/49460659)

7.8 my ass