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Sun Oct 7, 2012, 09:52 PM
Ztolkins (66 posts)
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Nebraska a swing state? Wha?
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If thats true, maybe Obama is doing okay.
"Mitt Romney Endorsed By Two Swing State Newspapers:
On Wednesday night, Nevadans watched Mr. Romney trounce the president," wrote the editors of the Las Vegas Review-Journal, applauding Romney's "pro-growth tax and regulatory" and calling President Barack Obama "openly hostile to free-market capitalism." The paper echoed a recent Romney campaign attack ad, citing Obama's "you didn't build that" comments. Many other news outlets have criticized Romney for taking the line out of context.
The Omaha World-Herald, meanwhile, accused Obama of engaging in "class warfare" and of "lack the management skill necessary to run government.
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While Nebraska is rarely included in the list of key swing states in the presidential election -- the overall state vote has been reliably Republican for decades -- the unusual way in which the state calculates its electoral votes makes it a viable play for Obama.
This story is about newspaper endorsements, but the way they report this stuff is bullshit...unless I'm missing something.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/07/mitt-romney-swing-states_n_1946330.html|
No other primitives at this campfire yet.
:popcorn:
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Not sure if my browser screwed up, or what. Here are some of the replies showing up now:
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 10:06 PM
Star Member Gore1FL (11,079 posts)
1. Obama got an elector from there in 2008.
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 10:21 PM
karynnj (45,536 posts)
3. Swing state is pretty amazing
In case anyone wanted to know, both endorsed McCain in 2008 and Bush in 2004.
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 10:22 PM
TexasCPA (119 posts)
4. Obama still might win NE2
The thread is running about 50/50, with half of the primitives appearing to think Obumbles might win something in NE, and the other half thinking the first half is nuts.
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One by one, the states will fall away, and the truth will come out at last.
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The Herald went liberal years ago.
DUmmies are dreaming.
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The dummie cites the huffandpuffington post?
:bwah: :bwah:
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The Omaha World-Herald is the major newspaper for western Iowa.
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I would do the happy dance if Romney wins Nevada....
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One by one, the states will fall away, and the truth will come out at last.
I really hope so but I am cynical to the point that I will not be surprised if the half-wit is reelected.
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I really hope so but I am cynical to the point that I will not be surprised if the half-wit is reelected.
Not a chance. Romney is going to blow the Magic Negro away.
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WTF?
Yeah, yeah, sure, sure.
Barack Milhous has got no chance in Hell, not even in Omaha.
He carried Omaha in 2008, but that was fluke; people in Nebraska just weren't very excited about McCain and stayed home.
The (R) running for the House in the bluest part of Omaha is polling 58-41% over the (D).
And Barack Milhous is going to get a much lower percentage of the vote in Nebraska than he did in 2008.
This is just ****ing bullshit.
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WTF?
Hell, not even in Omaha.
This is just ****ing bullshit.
Such language! The paint is peeling off the wall behind the computer.
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WTF?
Yeah, yeah, sure, sure.
Barack Milhous has got no chance in Hell, not even in Omaha.
He carried Omaha in 2008, but that was fluke; people in Nebraska just weren't very excited about McCain and stayed home.
The (R) running for the House in the bluest part of Omaha is polling 58-41% over the (D).
And Barack Milhous is going to get a much lower percentage of the vote in Nebraska than he did in 2008.
This is just ****ing bullshit.
My sister tells me Omaha is much more liberal then the rest of Nebraska.
I know I have an old classmate, retired Navy, that now works for the SBA in Omaha. His posts on Facebook read like something I would see on DU....
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The dummie cites the huffandpuffington post?
:bwah: :bwah:
According to DUmbShits, the Huffer is as accurate as NASA!
WTF?
Yeah, yeah, sure, sure.
Barack Milhous has got no chance in Hell, not even in Omaha.
He carried Omaha in 2008, but that was fluke; people in Nebraska just weren't very excited about McCain and stayed home.
The (R) running for the House in the bluest part of Omaha is polling 58-41% over the (D).
And Barack Milhous is going to get a much lower percentage of the vote in Nebraska than he did in 2008.
This is just ****ing bullshit.
McCain was the worst candidate we have ever put up against a DimWit!
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According to DUmbShits, the Huffer is as accurate as NASA!
McCain was the worst candidate we have ever put up against a DimWit!
From what Rush was just saying about Mitt's foreign policy speech, Mitt is a heluva step up from McCain.
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From what Rush was just saying about Mitt's foreign policy speech, Mitt is a heluva step up from McCain.
I don't think there's a comparison to that limp dick!
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The dummie cites the huffandpuffington post?
:bwah: :bwah:
Anything that aligns with their delusional system is necessarily a 'Reliable source.'
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I'm so happy my vote will actually probably count for something this year :yahoo:
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I'm so happy my vote will actually probably count for something this year :yahoo:
Well, what you got is this:
The two (R) congressmen outside of Omaha pretty much locked up with 70% or more of the vote--and yes, even in Lincoln, which at times can be bluer than Omaha.
The (R) candidate for the U.S. Senate ahead of Kerrey by 10+% since the race started, and it's not narrowing any.
The (R) congressman in Omaha enjoying the widest, most-comfortable, lead he's ever had in his races, 58-41%; some of them have been real nail-biters, but not this one.
Nebraska is a "swing state," susceptible to the malignant charms of Barack Milhous?
Yeah, sure.
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The only way Nebraska is a swing state is because they are still spinning from the defeat that Ohio State laid on them last week with a score of 63-38. Omaha and some small parts of the state might be blue the the ENTIRE state is as RED as it can get and that is not even taking into account the colors of the Husker football team. People out here are mostly Conservative and have always been that way. The is a saying in Nebraska, "Don't spook the cows" . If anything The Magic Negro has more then spooked the cows with his economic and foreign policies and one can bet that is more then enough to upset Jack and Jill Farmer who not only vote but will vote to get rid of Obama.
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The only way Nebraska is a swing state is because they are still spinning from the defeat that Ohio State laid on them last week with a score of 63-38.
There's no need to rub that in. We're at the beginning of a great rivalry.
It's great to have a civilized rival, as opposed to that place north of Toledo.
And while Coach Tressel would never have allowed his team to score again at 56-38, Coach Hayes would have scored it and gone for two.
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Well, what you got is this:
The two (R) congressmen outside of Omaha pretty much locked up with 70% or more of the vote--and yes, even in Lincoln, which at times can be bluer than Omaha.
The (R) candidate for the U.S. Senate ahead of Kerrey by 10+% since the race started, and it's not narrowing any.
The (R) congressman in Omaha enjoying the widest, most-comfortable, lead he's ever had in his races, 58-41%; some of them have been real nail-biters, but not this one.
Nebraska is a "swing state," susceptible to the malignant charms of Barack Milhous?
Yeah, sure.
Anyone else remember when they switched colors on us?
I know when I was a younger lad, DimBulbs were Red, and we were Blue.
Reason I suppose, was that back in the day of the commie purge by McCarthy, all the stinkin' reds were demonRats! I'm thinkin' even though McCarthy was pretty much a little over the top, he sure seems to be right.
It hasn't been that many years since they switched colors. I'm thinkin' it was during the Clintoon fiasco!
I have ta tell ya, they're closer to Red than they have been in my lifetime!!!!!!!!!
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Anyone else remember when they switched colors on us?
I know when I was a younger lad, DimBulbs were Red, and we were Blue.
Reason I suppose, was that back in the day of the commie purge by McCarthy, all the stinkin' reds were demonRats! I'm thinkin' even though McCarthy was pretty much a little over the top, he sure seems to be right.
It hasn't been that many years since they switched colors. I'm thinkin' it was during the Clintoon fiasco!
I have ta tell ya, they're closer to Red than they have been in my lifetime!!!!!!!!!
IIRC, it was the election of 1992.
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I would just about bet you that the DUmmies that are thinking it may be a swing state doesn't realize that frank, the one they fear more than Chuck Norris, is from Nebraska.
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IIRC, it was the election of 1992.
Your memory might be better than mine, as you've probably watched more elections via television than I have.
From the first election I recall seeing on television, red signified the Democrats, blue the Republicans.
It seemed that way for the longest time, until 2000.
That year, I got greatly confused when Alphonse Capote Gore was inexplicably blue, and George Bush red.
I've heard it's because the mainstream media of course understands the implication of "red," and wishing to deflect any nefarious hints about the Democrats, switched them; that it was a subliminal thing, so the public wouldn't think of the Democrats negatively.
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Your memory might be better than mine, as you've probably watched more elections via television than I have.
From the first election I recall seeing on television, red signified the Democrats, blue the Republicans.
It seemed that way for the longest time, until 2000.
That year, I got greatly confused when Alphonse Capote Gore was inexplicably blue, and George Bush red.
I've heard it's because the mainstream media of course understands the implication of "red," and wishing to deflect any nefarious hints about the Democrats, switched them; that it was a subliminal thing, so the public wouldn't think of the Democrats negatively.
Yep, you've got the reasoning right. I thought it was a 2000 thing, too, but I saw not too long ago (I think it was here, actually) that the big switcheroo happened in 1992.
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I've heard it's because the mainstream media of course understands the implication of "red," and wishing to deflect any nefarious hints about the Democrats, switched them; that it was a subliminal thing, so the public wouldn't think of the Democrats negatively.
If that's the case, they should switch colors again.
Today's democrat party openly embraces communism and socialism.
The White House even sent reelection congratulations to Yugo. (He's in my 2013 dead pool.)
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I would just about bet you that the DUmmies that are thinking it may be a swing state doesn't realize that frank, the one they fear more than Chuck Norris, is from Nebraska.
You know, it's really absurd, this notion that there's even a slim chance.
I forget what the lopsided margin in Nebraska was in 2008, but this year, it's way more lopsided.
This is not current information, but anyway, after the election of 2000, I did a statistical analysis of the presidential vote, and I was surprised how advanced the Great Plains states are; at that time, Jimmy Carter in 1976 or 1980, or both, was the lowest Democrat vote-getter in Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Wyoming, and Nebraska the preceding 80 years.
And Alaska, although only back to 1960, as it wasn't a state before then.
(To go back further than 80 years would have been pointless, given substantial population changes.)
Even Adlai Stevenson (1952 and 1956) and George McGovern (1972) did better in numbers than Jimmy.
The "record" was Al Smith in 1928 in North Dakota; even though he lost to Herbert Hoover in a massive landslide, 1928 was the "peak year" of the Democrat presidential vote there......and he of course lost North Dakota in a landslide.
But there it was--Al Smith had proven the most popular Democrat presidential candidate in the history of North Dakota.
I did this twelve years ago, and it might not be the case now, three more elections having occurred or about to occur, but it's probably pretty much the same.
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The only way Nebraska is a swing state is because they are still spinning from the defeat that Ohio State laid on them last week with a score of 63-38.
I'm not an alum, but I was really bummed out by that game.
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Your memory might be better than mine, as you've probably watched more elections via television than I have.
From the first election I recall seeing on television, red signified the Democrats, blue the Republicans.
It seemed that way for the longest time, until 2000.
That year, I got greatly confused when Alphonse Capote Gore was inexplicably blue, and George Bush red.
I've heard it's because the mainstream media of course understands the implication of "red," and wishing to deflect any nefarious hints about the Democrats, switched them; that it was a subliminal thing, so the public wouldn't think of the Democrats negatively.
That's what I remember Bubba! Seems to me it was a congressional, not a presidential election when they pulled the "switch".
If that's the case, they should switch colors again.
Today's democrat party openly embraces communism and socialism.
The White House even sent reelection congratulations to Yugo. (He's in my 2013 dead pool.)
I believe it was intentional to switch colors for that very reason Go! They have been "progressively" heading that way since the early 1990's.
They obviously don't want to be associated with the commies even though that is clearly their intention so they had to change the colors in order to have deniability. What was the guy's name that was kicked to the curb because he was an open communist? He was actually an adviser until he was exposed, then they dropped him like a hot rock!
They know Americans won't put up with openly socialist, communistic rhetoric.
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I'm not an alum, but I was really bummed out by that game.
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Excresence happens.
The decline began with the hiring of Steve Pederson (since fired) as athletic director in 2002; even though a native Nebraskan--in fact, born in the same town as franksolich--he'd gone back east to Pittsburgh, and got this stupid notion in his head that Nebraska should be hip, cool, trendy, with it, like all the other major college football teams, doing all the same things they did.
He'd forgotten that little tiny Nebraska had been the Terror of the Gridiron for more than a hundred years precisely because Nebraska had been Nebraska, not "just like everybody else."
So we became just like everybody else.....
Big Red is dead, killed by one of us.
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Thanks, I did not know the background.
I just remember the Nebraska power house of yesteryear. In my mind Nebraska was unique in college football.
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Excresence happens.
The decline began with the hiring of Steve Pederson (since fired) as athletic director in 2002; even though a native Nebraskan--in fact, born in the same town as franksolich--he'd gone back east to Pittsburgh, and got this stupid notion in his head that Nebraska should be hip, cool, trendy, with it, like all the other major college football teams, doing all the same things they did.
He'd forgotten that little tiny Nebraska had been the Terror of the Gridiron for more than a hundred years precisely because Nebraska had been Nebraska, not "just like everybody else."
So we became just like everybody else.....
Big Red is dead, killed by one of us.
I have to say, I honestly believe that the Huskers get more support than I remember even pro-teams getting back in California. On a Huskers game day, everybody is in red.
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Thanks, I did not know the background.
I just remember the Nebraska power house of yesteryear. In my mind Nebraska was unique in college football.
You know, until recently, Nebraska was the smallest state in the union with with major college football team.
But yet with a sparse population and meager resources, we usually fielded one of the most powerful teams in the country, states five or ten times our size and resources cringing in sweaty terror of us.
I suspect a significant amount of the dislike for Nebraska--and it's always been out there--was based upon envy; "how can a place with so little, do so much--and in fact, even more than we do ourselves?"
Just green-eyed envy, that so much could come out of such a place, while those with more couldn't do nearly as well.
We did it because we were being Nebraskan, not "just like everybody else," with their cool, hip, trendy, with-it faddism.
Alas, those days are gone.
For the record--I'm sure this is in the mind of some here--when Frank Solich was fired, he was at the time the winningest coach (five years or more) in college football. Our decline didn't start with the retirement of Tom Osborne; Frank Solich was on the way to taking us to even higher heights when he was let go.
Just as the lapsed Catholics are the worst primitives on Skins's island, a Nebraskan who moves east and forgetting his Nebraskan-ness, adopting the hip, cool, trendy, with-it attitudes of the elites and effetes, ends up a dismal failure if he comes back. (It's okay to go east, but it's equally important to remain Nebraskan in attitudes and values.)
This is the main reason Bob Kerrey's going to lose, and lose big, next month, in the Senate race here.
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Excresence happens.
That's hardly the proper term to describe a glorious event.
I've said before it's great to have a civilized rival.
"Excresence" is a term more suited to the cesspool north of Toledo.
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That's hardly the proper term to describe a glorious event.
I've said before it's great to have a civilized rival.
"Excresence" is a term more suited to the cesspool north of Toledo.
But of course, sir, even you have to admit Ohio State didn't beat Nebraska because Ohio State's so excellent.
Ohio State beat Nebraska because we're no longer Nebraska, no longer exceptional......because we forgot we're Nebraska, concentrating instead upon being just like everybody else.
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But of course, sir, even you have to admit Ohio State didn't beat Nebraska because Ohio State's so excellent.
Ohio State beat Nebraska because we're no longer Nebraska, no longer exceptional......because we forgot we're Nebraska, concentrating instead upon being just like everybody else.
With the 85-scholarship limit, fifty televised games per week, and oceans of money rolling in everywhere, no one can be exceptional the way Nebraska and the other handful of traditional powers were.
The powerful athletes are so diluted now, the game has become a contest of scatbacks, blazing wide receivers, and most important, the running, weak-armed, hippy-dippy quarterbacks.
Fortunately, the great powers still have an enormous advantage in facilities and finances to recruit the best of this breed of "student-athlete".
It's a dumbed-down, SEC-style game everywhere now, but it's still great entertainment and there's still great tradition involved.
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You know, until recently, Nebraska was the smallest state in the union with with major college football team.
But yet with a sparse population and meager resources, we usually fielded one of the most powerful teams in the country, states five or ten times our size and resources cringing in sweaty terror of us.
I suspect a significant amount of the dislike for Nebraska--and it's always been out there--was based upon envy; "how can a place with so little, do so much--and in fact, even more than we do ourselves?"
Just green-eyed envy, that so much could come out of such a place, while those with more couldn't do nearly as well.
We did it because we were being Nebraskan, not "just like everybody else," with their cool, hip, trendy, with-it faddism.
Alas, those days are gone.
For the record--I'm sure this is in the mind of some here--when Frank Solich was fired, he was at the time the winningest coach (five years or more) in college football. Our decline didn't start with the retirement of Tom Osborne; Frank Solich was on the way to taking us to even higher heights when he was let go.
Just as the lapsed Catholics are the worst primitives on Skins's island, a Nebraskan who moves east and forgetting his Nebraskan-ness, adopting the hip, cool, trendy, with-it attitudes of the elites and effetes, ends up a dismal failure if he comes back. (It's okay to go east, but it's equally important to remain Nebraskan in attitudes and values.)
This is the main reason Bob Kerrey's going to lose, and lose big, next month, in the Senate race here.
How ture Frank. It didn;t help much when Coach Solichs replacement took everything into the tank afterwards. And as for Bob Kerrey, He's been talking alot more like a Conservative in his latest TV ad and I wonder how that will play to his base ?
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I have to say, I honestly believe that the Huskers get more support than I remember even pro-teams getting back in California. On a Huskers game day, everybody is in red.
Even the beer is red!
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And as for Bob Kerrey, He's been talking alot more like a Conservative in his latest TV ad and I wonder how that will play to his base ?
Chief Blubbering Buffalo, the Bellevue Bolshevik, feels betrayed.
(http://media.yachenlama.com/2011/11/crying-buffalo--300x260.jpg)
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Well, what you got is this:
The two (R) congressmen outside of Omaha pretty much locked up with 70% or more of the vote--and yes, even in Lincoln, which at times can be bluer than Omaha.
The (R) candidate for the U.S. Senate ahead of Kerrey by 10+% since the race started, and it's not narrowing any.
The (R) congressman in Omaha enjoying the widest, most-comfortable, lead he's ever had in his races, 58-41%; some of them have been real nail-biters, but not this one.
Nebraska is a "swing state," susceptible to the malignant charms of Barack Milhous?
Yeah, sure.
We have yet to hear whether The Big Guy will be campaigning - given his spectacular success thus far, were he to threaten to wheel out a few mini-tacos surely that would make it a swing state.