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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Vagabond on October 02, 2012, 09:40:58 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021449235
I haven't noticed this nevernose primitive before. It may have some potential.
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 10:38 PM
Nevernose (8,401 posts)
That high school Obama spoke at Sunday night?
That high school Obama spoke at Sunday night? I wanted to tell y’all a few things about it, things that I know for a fact, because I taught there for many years.
The school is 95% minority, largely free and reduced lunch, and about 15-20 percent of students are illegal. More accurately, their parents are illegal and took the students into this country. Some of the illegal nationalities I encountered over the year: Mexican (the stereotype). Guatemalan, Honduran, Salvadoran. Chilean, Peruvian, Colombian. Thai, Cambodian, Filipino, Laotian. Irish, English, Romanian, Greek, Russian, Turkish. Canadian. For various reasons, going “back home†is either impossible or just a very bad idea. I have had students with a 4.6 GPA, weighted with AP and honors classes, taken to the US at the ripe old age of one month, who do not speak any language other than English and cannot get a student loan – students that, had they been born here, would be a senator or president some day.
I have had students that have won awards and scholarships that would make them the envy of anyone here, and students who have gone to colleges that are the envy of the world. Stanford, Harvard, Oxford – the kind of school that means parent can die happy.
On virtually every day, the school lunch is cheese pizza, tater tots, and a fruit pie. That fulfills the FDA requirements. As the most underfunded district in the nation (for years we could say “At least we aren’t Mississippi!â€), by law the only place we are allowed to profit from students is school lunch. We charge the federal government something like eighty cents for a lunch that costs us twenty-five. Walking in the door at lunchtime would kill poor Michelle.
In a given year, about 15% of the girls will get pregnant and carry a baby to full term. Even so, abortions are very common. The school district in Las Vegas is made up of seven Mormon housewives, elected largely because people assume that women will somehow be better for schools, as if the presence of ovaries automatically blesses someone with simple common sense (and no, I’m not one of those MRA assholes). As a result, the District’s sex education policies are set by a selected subcommittee made up of six other Mormons, even more conservative than those democratically elected. In the 90s, the board refused to allow Schindler’s List to be seen by high school seniors with parental permission, and still refuse to allow us to even show clips of a PG-13 movie shown to any student for any reason (I promise you, Shakespeare was meant to be seen, not read).
As a result, I have allowed students to bring their own children into the classroom. I have personally bottle-fed and changed a diaper while I was teaching a classroom of 30-50 other students how to read; I don’t want any teenage mother to use their baby as an excuse to not graduate. One coworker went to a student’s house to get said student to take the high-stakes test. That employee ended up administering the proficiency exam while the student was in labor, then taking the student to the hospital to give birth. The mother of the student wasn’t a bad parent, but she had other kids, too, and if she’d left work she would have been fired. When one of my students gave birth, which was fairly often, I never missed an opportunity to go to their home and give them their make-up work. More than once I stayed and helped with a newborn while I also helped with homework. One of my favorite teaching-memories is hanging out with a girl while bottle-feeding that girl’s baby, discussing some of the intricacies of All Quiet on the Western Front, while my daughter and her youngest sister played Barbies on the kitchen floor.
That number above was not a typo. I have spent an entrire school year with a fifty-minute period of fifty-five students, all of whom were below grade-level, and attempted to teach them how to read.
I have separated Bloods from Crips. I have confiscated weed pipes, crack pipes, meth pipes, syringes, and god-only-knows how many pills. I have assisted the police in taking a gun away from a student. I have taken knives away from students. Once, I was told to take the student back to class because I had not followed the proper disciplinary procedures; I had not assigned detention and called his parents before he pulled a knife on another student.
I have fed a dozen students a day. I have provided beds and other furniture for their homes. I have been to many of their homes, and turned down the crack and/or meth that was offered me (heroin people apparently don’t like to share).
One of these kids lived with a meth addicted uncle because living with a cocaine addicted father was worse. He had his daughter at thirteen. He is literally the only students I tried hard to not join the military, because his life was so hard (I’m not including the details) that Afghanistan was literally a better option than life after graduation – and by god I made sure he took every extra class he needed to graduate. Years later, and actually in Afghanistan and getting shot at, he still Skypes with my wife once every week or two to let us know that he’s alive and he’s bored. He wants to be a teacher when he gets out. I love him like he was my son.
I can show you the places in the school where the bullet holes have been painted up. At one time that school was known as “Drive-By High.†Once, one of my freshman once shot another freshman in the foot, on the last shot of a fourteen round clip. He was a good kid, except he was short and got picked on because of it. A former student stabbed another former student for no apparent reason, and the bleeding man managed to stagger back onto campus before he died. Most of the teachers I know have been to student funerals, but I seem to have been to far more of them.
One of the big newspapers did an article last year on the worst zip codes in America: the residents of two of the top twenty worst zip codes send their children to the school Obama spoke at last night.
I’m not going to talk about Arne Duncan here; it would get me, after eleven years, banned at DU.
That having been said: in a few days I will be voting to re-elect President Obama. Though I don’t always agree with him 100%, he is the best choice for this nation. I hope you will get out the vote.
I think this one watched Dangerous Minds.
Response to lunasun (Reply #4)
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 11:04 PM
Nevernose (8,401 posts)
7. I think of Obama and Arne like I think of my father
Most of the time my dad's one of the most amazing, talented people you will ever meet, not to mention he was one of the only registered communists in East Texas. However, he could also, occasionally, be a total asshole, largely because of the raging alcholism. Arne Duncan, IMHO, is just a symptom of Obama meaning well but not knowing any better. Much like my father. Remind me to call him tomorrow and tell him how much I love him, okay (my father, not the President)?
Response to Nevernose (Original post)
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 11:23 PM
msedano (703 posts)
8. such a dehumanizing term
"illegal".
Okay, we'll call 'em criminal.
Response to Nevernose (Original post)
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 11:26 PM
defacto7 (588 posts)
9. If it was my choice and ability,
I would double your salary. You deserve it. The future rests on the shoulders of the teachers of America, not the media, not computers, not the church and certainly not the corporate machine. It's hands on, in your face, face to face, no fear, on the line... TEACHERS!
Sheesh, my daughter is in advanced fourth grade math, which means she is in the top 15% of her class. She doesn't know her time tables. I would have been in remedial math in the fourth grade if that had been the case. How about we find some teachers that can actually teach first.
Response to Nevernose (Original post)
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 12:50 AM
Iwillnevergiveup (4,899 posts)
19. Rec #58
Your OP totally spoke to me, and I thank you for your courage and perserverance in carrying out all the unwritten parts in the job description of "TEACHER." Our profession has truly become both high stakes and high stress in and of itself. The powerful forces that seek to privatize and profit from education only serve to wreck more young lives.
I especially appreciate your hitting on the huge problem of pregnant minors. I've worked with my share of these young people, and it is truly sobering and heartbreaking to see the generational hardship and despair that too often result.
The statistics on poverty, particularly childhood poverty are once again off the charts - last I heard was 20%. This seriously, seriously needs to be addressed.
Let's hope that Barack's second term will implement some sorely needed, overdue policies that benefit the least among us.
Thanks again for sharing your experiences...deeply moving.
The policies you favored and implemented destroyed the support systems for a lot of these students. Ever wonder why the girls' dad is never seen on Maury?
Response to Nevernose (Original post)
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 11:52 AM
DhhD (62 posts)
25. Thank you President Obama for giving care to the children of our nation.
Last edited Tue Oct 2, 2012, 09:42 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
Back in the mid to late 1980s, many people from Central America (as well as people from Mexico) were coming to America as refuges during the civil wars in Central America. This war was aided by the Reagan Administration. These people were taken to INS-Immigration and Nationalization Service Offices. They were detained on the grounds but literally thousands were streaming northward because the INS could not keep up with the HUGE need of Human Services (food, sanitized lodging, etc.). The Reagan Administration finally made the decision to release these refugees. Yes, to allow them to go into the US and hope that they would seek citizenship in the correct way by going an INS office near where they settled; in the same work area. This meant that an employer would need to help them get a green card. Conservative government gave amnesty if the correct paper work was submitted to an INS Office. Did all employers see that their worker (especially those that spoke Spanish only) were helped through the nationalization process? Federal Public Law says that persons who are here without citizenship, are to be sponsored. The Spirit of the Law says that same right should be given to children. Way to go President Obama for your Executive Order giving persons the right to become nationalized citizens.
You forget to tell that the other side was sponsored by the Soviets and the Cubans. That is telling.
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If Pam doesn't die, she'll post that fairy tale and claim she wrote it.
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Response to Nevernose (Original post)
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 11:23 PM
msedano (703 posts)
8. such a dehumanizing term
"illegal".
What about "just a clump of cells?" Or "crotch fruit?" Or, um, "fetus?"
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Sounds like we spend a lot of money that just gets flushed. I'm with Newt, maybe the kids from that school could come mow a lawn or trim bushes (I did in my teens) to pay some of that back to the community that basically subsidizes them all. Not to mention it would give thwm a taste of the other side of the coin. Yeah that would be a good thing.
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Sheesh, my daughter is in advanced fourth grade math, which means she is in the top 15% of her class. She doesn't know her time tables. I would have been in remedial math in the fourth grade if that had been the case. How about we find some teachers that can actually teach first.
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Yeah, that whole "Ain't I wonderful" story was heavy on what a wonderful giving, empathic person the teller was, and mighty short on talking about tangible results from any actual 'Teaching.'
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An interesting, nicely written tale. I think it was written primarily to ingratiate him/her/itself with the other DUmmies - but it reads more like a fantasy than fact.
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Firstly, too long and full of self-congratulation. Secondly, the author's father is a communist, a fact which he/she seems to be proud.
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Mon Oct 1, 2012, 10:38 PM
Nevernose (8,401 posts)
The school is 95% minority, largely free and reduced lunch, and about 15-20 percent of students are illegal. More accurately, their parents are illegal and took the students into this country.
You mean "brought"?
And you say you were/are a teacher?
Suuuuuuure you are.
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Nevernose got hands on a screen treatment for every feel-good school movie ever made.
Originality is lost on these "people".
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Seems to be alot of issues in that neighborhood for people that are sooooooooo smart. If the illegal kids were smart they wouldn't be getting pregnant, shooting or stabbing each other.
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I have separated Bloods from Crips.
:lmao:
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