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Title: Should women be allowed to play for the NFL and other "male" sports?
Post by: Toastedturningtidelegs on May 27, 2008, 01:11:54 PM
This is a poll and you won't believe  how many of these morons said yes :whatever:
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ccharles000  (1000+ posts)       Tue May-27-08 09:02 AM
Original message
Poll question: Should women be allowed to play for the NFL and other "male" sports? 
 Should women be allowed to play for the NFL and other "male" sports?

I think yes.
Poll result (78 votes) 
Yes  (39 votes, 50%) Vote
No  (16 votes, 21%) Vote
Don't care  (19 votes, 24%) Vote
Other  (4 votes, 5%) Vote



 
And you're an idiot for saying so :bird: :-) http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3345296 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3345296)
Title: Re: Should women be allowed to play for the NFL and other "male" sports?
Post by: jukin on May 27, 2008, 01:15:27 PM
Where do they come up with this kind of shit?
Title: Re: Should women be allowed to play for the NFL and other "male" sports?
Post by: formerlurker on May 27, 2008, 01:17:36 PM
 :rotf:
Title: Re: Should women be allowed to play for the NFL and other "male" sports?
Post by: Toastedturningtidelegs on May 27, 2008, 01:20:05 PM
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Lorien  (1000+ posts)      Tue May-27-08 11:56 AM
Response to Reply #10
70. Why don't you think that we women can make our own choices in life?
 we're not ****ing children. Besides, women generally endure pain better than most men do. The main reason most women don't engage in contact sports is our lower levels of testosterone, which leads us to be less aggressive. There ARE women out there who like to play football, and they don't wait for a man's permission to do so.
Yes there are Lorien..and they suck at it! I wonder how Lorien would endure the pain of being clotheslined by a 300lb lineman? :whatever: Jesus they gotta worm their way into every male pasttime! :whatever:
Title: Re: Should women be allowed to play for the NFL and other "male" sports?
Post by: franksolich on May 27, 2008, 01:22:33 PM
Hmmm.

The lorien primitive, who's about to be called out on all of her lies about the Florida recount of 2000.

She must be a bitch in real life.
Title: Re: Should women be allowed to play for the NFL and other "male" sports?
Post by: Lord Undies on May 27, 2008, 01:29:40 PM
I'm all for it as long as it is a choice all the way around, no forced acceptance is involved, and no concessions are made to redesign the job to suit the applicant.  This is the way I think about all vocations.  For instance, I did not sue when the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders rejected me.   
Title: Re: Should women be allowed to play for the NFL and other "male" sports?
Post by: Toastedturningtidelegs on May 27, 2008, 01:34:41 PM
I'm all for it as long as it is a choice all the way around, no forced acceptance is involved, and no concessions are made to redesign the job to suit the applicant.  This is the way I think about all vocations.  For instance, I did not sue when the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders rejected me.   
If you would've gotten the boob job you woulda been right in there Undies :-)
Title: Re: Should women be allowed to play for the NFL and other "male" sports?
Post by: dutch508 on May 27, 2008, 01:40:07 PM
Sure, why not.

Don't change the rules to fit them in, although.

 :fuelfire:
Title: Re: Should women be allowed to play for the NFL and other "male" sports?
Post by: dutch508 on May 27, 2008, 01:42:23 PM
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Bill McBlueState  (1000+ posts)      Tue May-27-08 11:05 AM
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58. Why not?
 It's odd that so many people are equating "women shouldn't be allowed" with "women may be unlikely to qualify."

Pro teams try to assemble the best players they can get with the money they have. If one of those players happens to be a woman, then why wouldn't she be allowed to play? To prevent a team from fielding its best players would dilute the competitive strength of the league.


Like I said, you find a woman who plays as well as Brett Farve played and I say, let her play.
Title: Re: Should women be allowed to play for the NFL and other "male" sports?
Post by: Lord Undies on May 27, 2008, 01:44:37 PM
I'm all for it as long as it is a choice all the way around, no forced acceptance is involved, and no concessions are made to redesign the job to suit the applicant.  This is the way I think about all vocations.  For instance, I did not sue when the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders rejected me.   
If you would've gotten the boob job you woulda been right in there Undies :-)

It wasn't the boobs.  Shaving my legs was the deal breaker.
Title: Re: Should women be allowed to play for the NFL and other "male" sports?
Post by: dutch508 on May 27, 2008, 01:54:43 PM
I'm all for it as long as it is a choice all the way around, no forced acceptance is involved, and no concessions are made to redesign the job to suit the applicant.  This is the way I think about all vocations.  For instance, I did not sue when the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders rejected me.   
If you would've gotten the boob job you woulda been right in there Undies :-)

It wasn't the boobs.  Shaving my legs was the deal breaker.

They regected you because you wanted to have sex with them. I mean, even Debbie would have been like,

"Uh,...No...I have to...uhm....wash my hair...."

 :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Should women be allowed to play for the NFL and other "male" sports?
Post by: Chris_ on May 27, 2008, 01:55:40 PM
If you want an example, look at the scintillating play of the WNBA.  Watching paint dry or even soccer is more exciting.
Title: Re: Should women be allowed to play for the NFL and other "male" sports?
Post by: stickyboot on May 27, 2008, 04:08:53 PM
This is a poll and you won't believe  how many of these morons said yes :whatever:
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ccharles000  (1000+ posts)       Tue May-27-08 09:02 AM
Original message
Poll question: Should women be allowed to play for the NFL and other "male" sports? 
 Should women be allowed to play for the NFL and other "male" sports?

I think yes.
Poll result (78 votes) 
Yes  (39 votes, 50%) Vote
No  (16 votes, 21%) Vote
Don't care  (19 votes, 24%) Vote
Other  (4 votes, 5%) Vote



 
And you're an idiot for saying so :bird: :-) http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3345296 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3345296)

Oh, God...not this again. You know, I'm a large, tall woman and in my youth I was pretty powerful and athletic. I was good at basketball and softball/baseball in particular, and a strong runner and swimmer.

But never in a million years would I have ever been STOOOOPID enough to think that I could have played at a man's level of competition in any of those sports without wasting the time of all concerned. And probably getting myself injured, killed, thoroughly humiliated.

Exhibition games for charity or something would be fun, perhaps, but for serious sports, this is a "playing field" that can never be leveled. It's not about feminism; it's about pragmatism.
Title: Re: Should women be allowed to play for the NFL and other "male" sports?
Post by: Chris_ on May 27, 2008, 04:14:46 PM
I say bring 'em on. Better yet, replace the whole Dolphins team with em. Maybe they can win more than one game.
Title: Re: Should women be allowed to play for the NFL and other "male" sports?
Post by: JohnnyReb on May 27, 2008, 04:33:34 PM
High school team here has a girl for a kicker.......she's was just a freashman this year and was really pretty good. The team has sucked for years....politics being played by the coach to keep his job, winning team be damned. Well, they got a new coach this new and he's got one heck of a rebuilding job ahead of him. The girls older brother was the kicker but she's got the job for now. Someone said that about half the points they got this year was put on the board by her. .......but pro-ball...no

The girl plays soccer and has played soccer for years. I've seen her play soccer. She's not very big but she does have quite a leg on her.
Title: Re: Should women be allowed to play for the NFL and other "male" sports?
Post by: dandi on May 27, 2008, 04:38:13 PM
Where do they come up with this kind of shit?

From sitting around high in their basements all day pondering, "What American institution can we screw with next?"
Title: Re: Should women be allowed to play for the NFL and other "male" sports?
Post by: Airwolf on May 27, 2008, 04:43:06 PM
All it would take is for the first one to end up in a wheel chair or worse and the whole thing would tank into oblivion.
Title: Re: Should women be allowed to play for the NFL and other "male" sports?
Post by: Chris_ on May 27, 2008, 05:37:15 PM
High school team here has a girl for a kicker.......she's was just a freashman this year and was really pretty good. The team has sucked for years....politics being played by the coach to keep his job, winning team be damned. Well, they got a new coach this new and he's got one heck of a rebuilding job ahead of him. The girls older brother was the kicker but she's got the job for now. Someone said that about half the points they got this year was put on the board by her. .......but pro-ball...no

The girl plays soccer and has played soccer for years. I've seen her play soccer. She's not very big but she does have quite a leg on her.

Can she take a hit?
Title: Re: Should women be allowed to play for the NFL and other "male" sports?
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on May 27, 2008, 05:44:51 PM
I'm all for it as long as it is a choice all the way around, no forced acceptance is involved, and no concessions are made to redesign the job to suit the applicant.  This is the way I think about all vocations.  For instance, I did not sue when the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders rejected me.   

Absolutely...any woman who can out-stat the male recruits should certainly be a first-round draft pick.  Of course no such woman has come forth....
Title: Re: Should women be allowed to play for the NFL and other "male" sports?
Post by: lars1701c on May 27, 2008, 05:45:46 PM
Girls should stick to girls sports like foxy boxing, hot oil wrestling and such and such- Homer Simpson
Title: Re: Should women be allowed to play for the NFL and other "male" sports?
Post by: Chris_ on May 27, 2008, 05:47:36 PM
High school team here has a girl for a kicker.......she's was just a freashman this year and was really pretty good. The team has sucked for years....politics being played by the coach to keep his job, winning team be damned. Well, they got a new coach this new and he's got one heck of a rebuilding job ahead of him. The girls older brother was the kicker but she's got the job for now. Someone said that about half the points they got this year was put on the board by her. .......but pro-ball...no

The girl plays soccer and has played soccer for years. I've seen her play soccer. She's not very big but she does have quite a leg on her.

Can she take a hit?


I'm pretty sure hitting the kicker is a huge no-no, girl or not :p
Title: Re: Should women be allowed to play for the NFL and other "male" sports?
Post by: Chris_ on May 27, 2008, 05:49:14 PM
High school team here has a girl for a kicker.......she's was just a freashman this year and was really pretty good. The team has sucked for years....politics being played by the coach to keep his job, winning team be damned. Well, they got a new coach this new and he's got one heck of a rebuilding job ahead of him. The girls older brother was the kicker but she's got the job for now. Someone said that about half the points they got this year was put on the board by her. .......but pro-ball...no

The girl plays soccer and has played soccer for years. I've seen her play soccer. She's not very big but she does have quite a leg on her.

Can she take a hit?


I'm pretty sure hitting the kicker is a huge no-no, girl or not :p

Wrong -- if you touch the ball first you can cream the kicker.  And even then, if you are near the 10 you might as well go for it -- the penalty is only a few yards.

Title: Re: Should women be allowed to play for the NFL and other "male" sports?
Post by: Chris_ on May 27, 2008, 05:55:06 PM
Really?  I was under the impression that the kicker was off-limits. 

I don't remember where I read that.
Title: Re: Should women be allowed to play for the NFL and other "male" sports?
Post by: Chris_ on May 27, 2008, 07:42:57 PM
Really?  I was under the impression that the kicker was off-limits. 

I don't remember where I read that.


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A member of the receiving team may not run into or rough a kicker who kicks from behind his line unless contact is:

(a) Incidental to and after he had touched ball in flight.

(b) Caused by kicker’s own motions.

(c) Occurs during a quick kick, or a kick made after a run behind the line, or after kicker recovers a loose ball on the ground. Ball is loose when kicker muffs snap or snap hits ground.

(d) Defender is blocked into kicker.

I have seen over and over again where the kicker has been creamed "incidental contact" when a defender skies and falls onto the kicker.  They never call roughness.

And, like I said, if you cream the kicker inside the 10, who cares?  It is a 4 or 5 yard penalty on a chip shot.
Title: Re: Should women be allowed to play for the NFL and other "male" sports?
Post by: NHSparky on May 27, 2008, 07:46:00 PM
:rotf:

As much as I hate the Red Sox, I'd love to see a woman softball player go up and inside on Manny and have him charge the mound.

Then again, Dice-K throws like a bitch anyway.
Title: Re: Should women be allowed to play for the NFL and other "male" sports?
Post by: JohnnyReb on May 27, 2008, 07:55:18 PM
High school team here has a girl for a kicker.......she's was just a freashman this year and was really pretty good. The team has sucked for years....politics being played by the coach to keep his job, winning team be damned. Well, they got a new coach this new and he's got one heck of a rebuilding job ahead of him. The girls older brother was the kicker but she's got the job for now. Someone said that about half the points they got this year was put on the board by her. .......but pro-ball...no

The girl plays soccer and has played soccer for years. I've seen her play soccer. She's not very big but she does have quite a leg on her.

Can she take a hit?


I've been told she's been hit a few times but bounced right back up. ....but then, that probably wasn't a 300 pounder that hit her either.
Title: Re: Should women be allowed to play for the NFL and other "male" sports?
Post by: NHSparky on May 27, 2008, 08:51:00 PM
Anyone who thinks women can consistently compete with men, I bring you Anika Sorenstam.
Title: Re: Should women be allowed to play for the NFL and other "male" sports?
Post by: RedTail on May 27, 2008, 11:36:54 PM
No. As strong as women are, they wouldn't probably get up from a tackle from Robert Gallery, Zach Thomas, or hell, even Jack Del Rio, no matter how well padded they were.  It's a different grade of strength. . .I've been hit at full speed by a lineman when I was in high school. I cracked my shoulder blade.

There are already all-female football leagues. I even watched a couple Miami Rage football games. The female athletes are out there. The money is out there. But honestly, the interest is not there.

*Red*

Title: Re: Should women be allowed to play for the NFL and other "male" sports?
Post by: Chris_ on May 27, 2008, 11:39:36 PM
No. As strong as women are, they wouldn't probably get up from a tackle from Robert Gallery, Zach Thomas, or hell, even Jack Del Rio, no matter how well padded they were.  It's a different grade of strength. . .I've been hit at full speed by a lineman when I was in high school. I cracked my shoulder blade.

There are already all-female football leagues. I even watched a couple Miami Rage football games. The female athletes are out there. The money is out there. But honestly, the interest is not there.

*Red*


I re-refer to the boring WNBA.  An LA Times writer accurately said a good men's HS team could beat the best WNBA team.
Title: Re: Should women be allowed to play for the NFL and other "male" sports?
Post by: jtyangel on May 28, 2008, 06:18:43 AM
This is a poll and you won't believe  how many of these morons said yes :whatever:
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ccharles000  (1000+ posts)       Tue May-27-08 09:02 AM
Original message
Poll question: Should women be allowed to play for the NFL and other "male" sports? 
 Should women be allowed to play for the NFL and other "male" sports?

I think yes.
Poll result (78 votes) 
Yes  (39 votes, 50%) Vote
No  (16 votes, 21%) Vote
Don't care  (19 votes, 24%) Vote
Other  (4 votes, 5%) Vote



 
And you're an idiot for saying so :bird: :-) http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3345296 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3345296)

Oh, God...not this again. You know, I'm a large, tall woman and in my youth I was pretty powerful and athletic. I was good at basketball and softball/baseball in particular, and a strong runner and swimmer.

But never in a million years would I have ever been STOOOOPID enough to think that I could have played at a man's level of competition in any of those sports without wasting the time of all concerned. And probably getting myself injured, killed, thoroughly humiliated.

Exhibition games for charity or something would be fun, perhaps, but for serious sports, this is a "playing field" that can never be leveled. It's not about feminism; it's about pragmatism.


Perfect! Exactly. Hi 5
Title: Re: Should women be allowed to play for the NFL and other "male" sports?
Post by: lastparker on May 28, 2008, 12:50:10 PM
All it would take is for the first one to end up in a wheel chair or worse and the whole thing would tank into oblivion.

It is just like every attempt by a liberal to force "equality"....  They'd have ruined the entire sport by the time they'd changed all the rules to accomodate the women.  Much like it went when the first liberal Mom wanted her "slow" child mainstreamed into a regular class at school....

"Well, Mrs. Pitt, it has been three weeks.  Will simply can't do the work."
"Then he needs more attention."
"But Mrs. Pitt, the teacher also has to teach the REST of the students."
"Then he should have his OWN teacher.  At taxpayer expense.  And in the same classroom, so he won't feel "different" from the other kids."
"But, Mrs. Pitt, he IS."
"I'm suing!"
Title: Re: Should women be allowed to play for the NFL and other "male" sports?
Post by: Taxman on May 28, 2008, 02:34:17 PM
One of my son's played football.  In his Freshman year they had an awesome team...almost always trounced everyone they came up against by 50 plus points.  They had a girl on the team.  Her mom was/is a flaming moonbat and thought her daughter had to play football because she wanted to and that girls are not different than boys.  The girl was a bit stocky but was a decent runner for a girl so the coach made her third string fullback.   We had one school in our conference that reigned as state champs for years and years and they thought that they defined football.  We had to play them early in the year and we were ahead by 60 something to 0 in the third quarter after having just scored yet another td.  The coach hated this other school and thought it would be funny to put the girl in to score a two-point conversion.  She got the ball and got nailed by their D-line that resulted in her foot being on backwards.  She was out for the season and her freshman year of sports was pretty much over right there.  She was a good athlete but was clearly out of her element playing contact sports with boys. 
Title: Re: Should women be allowed to play for the NFL and other "male" sports?
Post by: stickyboot on May 28, 2008, 03:05:17 PM
All it would take is for the first one to end up in a wheel chair or worse and the whole thing would tank into oblivion.

It is just like every attempt by a liberal to force "equality"....  They'd have ruined the entire sport by the time they'd changed all the rules to accomodate the women.  Much like it went when the first liberal Mom wanted her "slow" child mainstreamed into a regular class at school....

"Well, Mrs. Pitt, it has been three weeks.  Will simply can't do the work."
"Then he needs more attention."
"But Mrs. Pitt, the teacher also has to teach the REST of the students."
"Then he should have his OWN teacher.  At taxpayer expense.  And in the same classroom, so he won't feel "different" from the other kids."
"But, Mrs. Pitt, he IS."
"I'm suing!"

Child care for mentally disabled children at taxpayer expense.
Title: Re: Should women be allowed to play for the NFL and other "male" sports?
Post by: Ptarmigan on May 28, 2008, 09:29:53 PM
Are they out of their mind? If women play in NFL, they will get clobbered and die.