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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on September 30, 2012, 06:15:52 AM
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Tom Yossarian Joad (1000+ posts)
Move On organising vigils for 1000 dead American soldiers
i'm hosting my first candlelight vigil tomorrow night...
I wish you luck and good attendance...
i'm bama born and bred, so i know what you're up against,
Heh. You got that right. I'll be happy to stay out of jail...
Going to one in Denver tomorrow night
Just my opinion, but I think there might be a better chance of changing
Signed up in Tulsa! n/t
Port Jefferson (Long Island), New York....I'll be there...
democrats can never outpander the republicans- it's a waste of...
IMHO, it's not pandering.... It's a vigil for the dead.
I'll be standing at the Puget Sound, candle in hand..
kick
Attending in Idaho
I believe there is one, or something similar in Indy
wow, that sounds like trouble just begging to happen.
about 45 minutes away from going
A shot from Huntsville... `4 registered, 60 showed...
We had about 150 people
If you were an organiser, check your email. If you want to show them
I went to ours in Eau Claire, WI.
Glad to hear it. We had a beautiful evening and a wonderfully diverse
While demonized by desposts, "MoveOn" is for "the people",...
Sent the pix to the organizer to post
Just got back.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x811596
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xchrom (81,902 posts)
US military death toll in Afghanistan reaches 2,000
US MILITARY DEATHS IN AFGHANISTAN HIT 2,000 xchrom
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021440094
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Liberals: it's OK if a black guy is doing all the killing
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Very telling, comparing the number of replies.
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From the icasualities site (a site favored by the trolls during the 2008 campaign season) linked to in the thread:
Year US
2001 12
2002 49
2003 48
2004 52
2005 99
2006 98
2008 155
2009 317
2010 499
2011 418
2012 261
Total 2125
Misfits - help me understand why that number of deaths skyrocketed when Barry took office? Are you freaking kidding me?
What in the freakin hell is going on?
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From the icasualities site (a site favored by the trolls during the 2008 campaign season) linked to in the thread:
Year US
2001 12
2002 49
2003 48
2004 52
2005 99
2006 98
2008 155
2009 317
2010 499
2011 418
2012 261
Total 2125
Misfits - help me understand why that number of deaths skyrocketed when Barry took office? Are you freaking kidding me?
What in the freakin hell is going on?
ROE changes, probably, combined with the Taliban/al Qaida "knowing the enemy" (i.e., the CinC)
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Misfits - help me understand why that number of deaths skyrocketed when Barry took office? Are you freaking kidding me?
COIN relies on saturating enemy territory with highly visible troops. So increased casualties are expected.
Obama won't allow those troops to deliver the killing stroke lest he upset the locals.
In other words: drop a bunch of kids out in the middle of nowhere then forget about them because at the end of the day looking like your doing something matters at the pollsmore than actually killing the enemy.
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Total deaths the entire 8 years GWB was president = 513
Total deaths the 4 years (still 3 months left in 2012) Barry was present = 1,495
Dear Governor Romney - PLEASE MAKE THIS A POINT IN YOUR DEBATES. Thank you. - concerned taxpayer who gives a shit about the military
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COIN relies on saturating enemy territory with highly visible troops. So increased casualties are expected.
Which is the reason for those angels over their shoulders. The POS insurgents come sniffing around, the bombers do a fly-by (and they are flying all damn day every day - or they were) and they scatter like rats. That is how it has been there since 2001.
WTF changed?
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I remember well during Iraq how the liberals incessantly bombarded us (pun intended) with context-free images of dead civilians.
Every civilian death was portrayed as an veritable execution by US troops even if it were the result of an Al Quaeda attack on civilians.
What changed?
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unhappycamper (47,684 posts)
2. It appears the 2,000 is the Afghanistan spin for this week.
They're off by only 125 dead Americans.
http://icasualties.org/OEF/index.aspx
"Spin"?
It's no longer a testament to the toll of human suffering exacted by inept and ambitious men.
Now it's "spin." A politicized attack on the current administration.
What changed?
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COIN relies on saturating enemy territory with highly visible troops. So increased casualties are expected.
Obama won't allow those troops to deliver the killing stroke lest he upset the locals.
In other words: drop a bunch of kids out in the middle of nowhere then forget about them because at the end of the day looking like your doing something matters at the pollsmore than actually killing the enemy.
Ok, just got a hold of my husband and he explained what you are saying here to me - which he agrees with. Right up until the end of GWB's admin, the troops on the ground were Special Ops. Now they are regular Army/Marines. High visibility. Different mission.
He thinks Romney should advise Afghanistan we are bombing the shit out of any make-shift terrorist camp that pops up going forward. Not cool? then see ya.
We should just get the hell out of there and let them rot in the hell hole of their own making. Just my opinion.
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Liberals: it's OK if a black guy is doing all the killing
I can hear it now...
Brian Williams NBC News - "good evening...you're looking live at the Inaugural Ball of President Mitt Romney as he celebrates his first day in office...meanwhile...half a world away from the glitter and lights...two more soldiers died in attacks in Afghanistan in a war that is growing increasingly unwinnable day by day. This brings the death toll in America's longest war to (insert number)"
It will all come back and become nightly fodder once Mitt takes office.
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I can hear it now...
Brian Williams NBC News - "good evening...you're looking live at the Inaugural Ball of President Mitt Romney as he celebrates his first day in office...meanwhile...half a world away from the glitter and lights...two more soldiers died in attacks in Afghanistan in a war that is growing increasingly unwinnable day by day. This brings the death toll in America's longest war to (insert number)"
It will all come back and become nightly fodder once Mitt takes office.
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GAY-RON-TEED!
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GAY-RON-TEED!
OMG!!! :rotf: Hi 5
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Different thread, but equally bereft of replies:
lunatica (25,275 posts)
2. The first sentence talks about "...the human cost of an 11-year-old conflict..."
and only counts Americans. Yeah, we're the victims.
The reason this war is no longer of interest to the American people is because as a Nation we're loath to see ourselves for what we truly are. So we just lose interest. We're like babies who quickly lose all interest in a toy because we broke it and something else catches our attention.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014251053
The American people haven't lost interest. There isn't a day I'm in uniform that someone doesn't shake my hand.
You mean YOU sold out for free birth control and couh syrup.
Go ahead **** nugget. Tell the rest of your toilet bobbers that, as a matter of principle, you will not be voting for Obama because of the war and you will be deluged with a list of all the fre goodies to be imperiled should R&R be elected.
Do it, you ****ing *****. I dare you.
And you know why I'm so ****ing pissed?
Because we're fighting an enemy reduced to IEDs.
IEDs are not tactical weapons; they are not about destroying localized forces to gain battlespace dominance.
They are not strategic weapons that destroy a nation's capacity for waging war.
They are political weapons meant to create headlines, protests and speeches from within an opponent's own camp to force him to quit the war.
You ****-nuggets were an integral part of the killing. Every bomb set-off was designed to make you speechify and protest and hold your phony vigils.
YOU killed those troops because you were always a part of the enemy's strategy.
And you know it too!
But that's OK, because Bush was in office.
Now Obama is in office and he's going to pay for your mortgage and your gas and your birth control and your cough syrup.
But men and women better than you are still dying because the enemy your were complicit with is still killing those troops.
**** you.
**** your allies and their pedophile prophet.
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Different thread, but equally bereft of replies:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014251053
The American people haven't lost interest. There isn't a day I'm in uniform that someone doesn't shake my hand.
Normal Americans haven't forgotten Snugs. The DUmmies only hope the people forget...or at lest don't talk about it right now...if you don't mention the GWOT or soldiers dying while Obama is in office...the Libtards hope everyone will still blame Bush. IF they were to support Obama and rah rah his efforts in Afghanistan...everyone would see them for the hypocrites you and I know they are.
As I said above...it will once again become front and center in the news the minutes a war mongering Republican takes over.
For Libs it will be ok to talk about the war again.
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GAY-RON-TEED!
Now I gotta clean the coffee off the monitor . . . H5, Snugs!
(Let's see a ptarmigan come up with something that clever! :fuelfire: :tongue: )
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I can hear it now...
Brian Williams NBC News - "good evening...you're looking live at the Inaugural Ball of President Mitt Romney as he celebrates his first day in office...meanwhile...half a world away from the glitter and lights...two more soldiers died in attacks in Afghanistan in a war that is growing increasingly unwinnable day by day. This brings the death toll in America's longest war to (insert number)"
It will all come back and become nightly fodder once Mitt takes office.
Dude, seriously. I know what you do for a living, but that's WAY too close to what they're going to do.
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Dude, seriously. I know what you do for a living, but that's WAY too close to what they're going to do.
The next story will be how high gas prices are harming the poor and minorities, and how Romney is to blame.
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Dude, seriously. I know what you do for a living, but that's WAY too close to what they're going to do.
I've been around them long enough now...it's pretty easy to know what they're gonna say and how they're gonna phrase it.
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The left is about one thing and one thing only, POWER.
Feminists didn't say a word when Impeached president Clinton was forcing himself on women.
Anti-war advocates say nothing when a democrat party member is president. Same goes for eco-fascists, illegal immigration fanatics, AARP, and teh geys. They are all about their particular niche until that particular niche comes up against getting more power. Then it is all about the power, nothing but the power.
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Sigh...I love you Snuggle! :blowkiss:
Cindie
GAY-RON-TEED!
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Different thread, but equally bereft of replies:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014251053
The American people haven't lost interest. There isn't a day I'm in uniform that someone doesn't shake my hand.
You mean YOU sold out for free birth control and couh syrup.
Go ahead **** nugget. Tell the rest of your toilet bobbers that, as a matter of principle, you will not be voting for Obama because of the war and you will be deluged with a list of all the fre goodies to be imperiled should R&R be elected.
Do it, you ****ing *****. I dare you.
And you know why I'm so ****ing pissed?
Because we're fighting an enemy reduced to IEDs.
IEDs are not tactical weapons; they are not about destroying localized forces to gain battlespace dominance.
They are not strategic weapons that destroy a nation's capacity for waging war.
They are political weapons meant to create headlines, protests and speeches from within an opponent's own camp to force him to quit the war.
You ****-nuggets were an integral part of the killing. Every bomb set-off was designed to make you speechify and protest and hold your phony vigils.
YOU killed those troops because you were always a part of the enemy's strategy.
And you know it too!
But that's OK, because Bush was in office.
Now Obama is in office and he's going to pay for your mortgage and your gas and your birth control and your cough syrup.
But men and women better than you are still dying because the enemy your were complicit with is still killing those troops.
**** you.
**** your allies and their pedophile prophet.
Hi5 and thank you and all the rest. Wish I could still be in there but it just didn't work out.
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Sometime last year I watched a video (maybe youtube) of Marines on a night patrol WITH Afghanistan soldiers. It was narrated by one of the Marines, after it was over of course, he described a convoy of Humvees when the lead vehicle was hung up on a rock and the convoy came to a stop.
They all had their lights OUT, but one of the middle vehicles was operated and occupied with Afghan soldiers. The narrator said for NO apparent reason the Afghan vehicle turned it's lights ON and within seconds the convoy was under fire from rockets.
As soon as I heard that, and the narrator did NOT give an opinion why, I immediately suspected the Afghan soldiers were the enemy.
I can't imagine serving with people who MIGHT be the enemy.
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ROE changes, probably, combined with the Taliban/al Qaida "knowing the enemy" (i.e., the CinC)
ROE changes absolutely, you have to see a weapon in hand and air support is extremely limited. It's a ****ing joke but don't expect to see it in the news.
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This thread doesn't make sense without dates on the DUmp posts at the top.
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This thread doesn't make sense without dates on the DUmp posts at the top.
Wed Sep-08-04 07:55 PM
It was at the link. :)
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WTF changed?
Mainly the Taliban/AQ support structure was successfully re-established, so they are no longer running for their lives or on the outside looking in. Basically the Afghan central government did not get strong enough, fast enough, to displace them permanently, and the US fought it as a shoestring operation while the war in Iraq was our top priority. To some extent you could say the Bush administration did do much that made the Taliban resurgence possible, but Obama has taken additional steps necessary to ensure it was inevitable. The tipping point was when he tried but failed to sell out Karzai after the national elections, there was really no way to recover the strategic initiative after that.
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**** you.
**** your allies and their pedophile prophet.
Well said, sir.
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Then...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x811596
Now...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021440094
:tumbleweed:
Liberals: it's OK if a black guy is doing all the killing
Obama. Mumia Abu-Jama. Hmmm...you are right.