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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on September 24, 2012, 07:24:00 AM
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...for Traveler's Ins ...over asbestos...no less.
Warren represented not just Travelers, but numerous other companies starting in the late 1990s working out of and using her Harvard Law School office in Cambridge, which she listed as her office of record on briefs filed with various courts. Warren, however, never has been licensed to practice law in Massachusetts.
As detailed below, there are at least two provisions of Massachusetts law Warren may have violated. First, on a regular and continuing basis she used her Cambridge office for the practice of law without being licensed in Massachusetts. Second, in addition to operating an office for the practice of law without being licensed in Massachusetts, Warren actually practiced law in Massachusetts without being licensed.
Warren refused to disclose the full extent of her private law practice when asked by The Boston Globe. If Warren denies that she has practiced law in Massachusetts without a license, Warren should disclose the full extent of her private law practice. The public has a right to assess whether Warren has failed to comply with the most basic requirement imposed on others, the need to become a member of the Bar of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts in order to practice law in and from Massachusetts.
http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/09/elizabeth-warrens-law-license-problem/
Evidence, with screencaps, at the link.
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The Herald might do a story on this. Anyone else? Fuggedaboutit.
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Obama was never a law professor.
And Clinton was disbarred for perjury.
You have to ask, "Why do liberals flock to the legal profession and then fail at it so miserably?"
They remind me of the lawyers Jesus was always complaining about. You know, the ones who exploit the letter of The Law so as to abuse the spirit of The Law.
Maybe that's why they hate Jesus so much.
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Obama was never a law professor.
And Clinton was disbarred for perjury.
You have to ask, "Why do liberals flock to the legal profession and then fail at it so miserably?"
They remind me of the lawyers Jesus was always complaining about. You know, the ones who exploit the letter of The Law so as to abuse the spirit of The Law.
Maybe that's why they hate Jesus so much.
Also keep in mind that Los Angeles mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, he of the chair of the DNC convention a few short weeks ago, he who couldn't understand what a quorum meant, took the CA bar and failed it--FOUR TIMES.
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If that brain dead faux squaw wins the election, I will have a heart attack. There is no way that someone that stupid could be elected. Wait, obama got elected, so it is possible.
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Joe Dunnâ€@JoeDunn8
@LegInsurrection Warren just admitted on #WTKK that she's not a member of MA Bar... #mapoli #masen http://tun.in/seo7F pic.twitter.com/XXkshDhj
https://twitter.com/JoeDunn8/statuses/250225780100055040
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^^ She just lost the election. She might as well back out while she still has some sort of dignity left.
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^^ She just lost the election. She might as well back out while she still has some sort of dignity left.
Why back out...she has already shown her ass and had no dignity to start with.
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...She might as well back out while she still has some sort of dignity left.
If they had dignity they wouldn't be whining, mewling little pusstards to begin with.
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Just did a site search at DU, and not surprisingly, there is nothing there about this.
If it does appear, there will be multiple posts with explanations as to how it doesn't matter.
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Just did a site search at DU, and not surprisingly, there is nothing there about this.
If it does appear, there will be multiple posts with explanations as to how it doesn't matter.
Since the RW blogs broke the story they either A) haven't gotten out of bed and heard it yet or B) are too scared of being accused of beng a RW troll or C) don't want to call attention to it lest the story go mainstream.
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She don't need no stinking license, she's a democrat. Democrats make laws, they don't abide by them, laws, rules and regulations are for all those other people. Morals, ethics, laws and licenses don't apply to democrats
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Why back out...she has already shown her ass and had no dignity to start with.
If they had dignity they wouldn't be whining, mewling little pusstards to begin with.
Good points. I was trying to be nice in a regard that she might have an slither of dignity. But I guess not.
Just did a site search at DU, and not surprisingly, there is nothing there about this.
If it does appear, there will be multiple posts with explanations as to how it doesn't matter.
You won't see any of the MSM bring this up..
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Well I'll be damned. What can happen to you if you practice law without a license?
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Well I'll be damned. What can happen to you if you practice law without a license?
The REAL bottom feeders get pissed. :rant:
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Well I'll be damned. What can happen to you if you practice law without a license?
Mind you, she was doing this for cases that were before the SCOTUS.
The REAL bottom feeders get pissed. :rant:
DAT should be along in 3...2...1...
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Obama was never a law professor.
And Clinton was disbarred for perjury.
You have to ask, "Why do liberals flock to the legal profession and then fail at it so miserably?"
It's because they apply the same logic, clarity of thought, and standards of integrity to it that they do to all their other endeavors. Hence Mr. and Mrs. Obama also both had to surrender their law licenses over separate and unrelated honesty problems, or so I hear.
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Mind you, she was doing this for cases that were before the SCOTUS.
DAT should be along in 3...2...1...
Copied from your sig line....
Dems say cutting $700 billion from Medicaid saved the program. Let's see what other social programs we can save.
Local TV News this morning ran a story complaining how one local hospital was over charging by about 3 times what it actually cost to treat cancer patients. The hospital answered them by saying that they had to over charge those that could pay, would pay and did pay to pay for those that couldn't pay, wouldn' pay and didn't pay.
So, now Obamacare is going to raise taxes on the rich, plus make them pay more for health insurance and then some added taxes on healthcare they recieve to cover those that don't have money or healthcare insurance. So, now we're going to break the rich so they can pay for the healthcare of the poor which they apparently have been paying all along....the only difference I see in the systems are, the government now gets a large cut from the heathcare system in order to add a bunch of useless government jobs. ...and everyone is equally broke.
If I have confused you, ....GOOD, I didn't want to be the only one confused. :-)
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liberallibral (245 posts)
New Right-Wing Claim...Warren Practiced Law Without a License...
http://michellefields.com/2012/09/24/elizabeth-warren-had-private-law-practice-in-cambridge-for-over-a-decade-but-not-licensed-in-massachusetts/
I'm sure FOX with run with this...
Jackpine Radical (34,155 posts)
2. I think they may be stretching the definition of "practicing law."
progressivebydesign (17,915 posts)
3. thanks again for sharing the right wing attacks with us on DU.
really.. aren't there any bad polling numbers to add today?
cthulu2016 (4,720 posts)
4. A perfect "abuse of ignorance" story
There is nothing in the story that says she did anything wrong. It describes something that a person might assume to be something wrong.
The story doesn't say that she "practiced law" in MA, or that she did anything for which such a license was required.
Actually, the LI story alleges just that very thing.
You're abusing ignorance by claiming no such allegation exists.
DURHAM D (15,938 posts)
6. What do you think and why that source?
The Velveteen Ocelot (32,478 posts)
7. And maybe if they did a little more research
they might discover she could have been admitted pro hac vice (for a specific case) in the instances where she was allegedly practicing law in MA. This is very common - a lawyer with particular expertise in a certain area might be asked to work as a consulting attorney in a state where they aren't licensed. The lawyer who is licensed in that state will move the admission of the consultant in a totally routine court appearance. It's done all the time. I'm sure Warren wasn't foolish enough to take MA clients without being licensed to do so, and I'm equally sure that if she had, that would have been discovered long ago.
This will bite the GOPers in the butt if they pursue it.
(http://static.atlasobscura.netdna-cdn.com/images/place/vandusen-garden-s-elizabethan-hedge-maze.11088.large_slideshow.jpg)
That's quite the hedge you have there.
But then there's this:
(http://legalinsurrection.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Travelers-v-Bailey-Brief-Cover.jpg)
obamanut2012 (5,526 posts)
10. And you posted a link to this RW blog why, exactly?
I haven't seen this mentioned in any of the MSM.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021406448
I'm not seeing a lot of substantive replies.
IOW: they recognize the seriousness of the charge.
Which is why I repeat:
Joe Dunnâ€@JoeDunn8
@LegInsurrection Warren just admitted on #WTKK that she's not a member of MA Bar... #mapoli #masen http://tun.in/seo7F pic.twitter.com/XXkshDhj
https://twitter.com/JoeDu...atuses/250225780100055040
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Oooh!
That thread is exploding.
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Your twitter link doesn't work, Sgt.
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NRO is saying you don't have to be licensed in your state of residency to argue federal cases.
ETA:
ANOTHER UPDATE: Another veteran lawyer writes in to Campaign Spot:
I have practiced law for 30 years. Your correspondent is correct that a federal court can permit an attorney from a state outside the state wherein the federal court sits to appear before that court. The practice is called “pro hac vice,†which is Latin for “for this occasion.†Here are the pro hac vice requirements for the District Court of Mass, which would be the relevant court in this case.
However, this does not conclude the issue. There would still need to be an attorney licensed in Mass. who moved for Ms. Warren to be admitted pro hac vice for the case at hand. Such a document would have to be in the docket of the case as to which she was representing her client. If Ms. Warren simply filed pleadings without first being admitted to the court pro hac vice, she would be implicitly representing to the court that she was, in fact, licensed to practice in Mass., and if she was not so licensed, she would have violated the court’s rules, and, in effect, have committed a fraud upon the court.
http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/328356/elizabeth-warren-unlicensed-lawyer#
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NRO is saying you don't have to be licensed in your state of residency to argue federal cases.
ETA:
http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/328356/elizabeth-warren-unlicensed-lawyer#
I suppose that might be the reason that Team Fauxcahountus will not be forthcoming with any further detail of her law practice.
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/tucker13/DUmpster/warren_zpsad2340ad.png)
Her ancestors were here before the laws were enacted. She doesn't need one.
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/tucker13/DUmpster/warren_zpsad2340ad.png)
Her ancestors were here before the laws were enacted. She doesn't need one.
:hi5: Hi-5 worthy! Well played.
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I heard the fill in for Howie Carr, WRKO Radio, Boston is calling her Lie-a-watha.
(Howie is probably sorry to miss this laugh fest).
The thread I ran across > http://upload.democraticunderground.com/1251105615
was filled with two bit shysters pounding the table pretty good (from the tired old line:"when you have the facts, argue the facts, when you have the law, argue the law, and when you have neither facts or law, pound the table"). Were she to stand in the dock represented by this group it is quite possible they would manage to get her life before a firing squad.
Has the Keen Legal Mind of Nadin weighed in on this yet? Certainly she could google a definitive answer for all the curious lay persons lying about their law degrees. :hammer:
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Would Fauxcahontas have even been admitted to law school had she not claimed injun blood?
Would the jug-eared muslim have been admitted to any school had he not claimed to be a foreign exchange student?
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Would Fauxcahontas have even been admitted to law school had she not claimed injun blood?
Would the jug-eared muslim have been admitted to any school had he not claimed to be a foreign exchange student?
Probably not, for either.
I'm not a lawyer, no expert on this but if she was inactive in two states and never licensed in another she's in some trouble.
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Obviously, pursuing this line of questioning on Elizabeth Warren is racist... :rofl: