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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: txradioguy on September 23, 2012, 05:02:41 AM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021396217
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More info on this idiot (h/t Apocalypse):
Petty Officer Millen, USN. Electrician's Mate Third Class. Stationed at Naval Nuclear Power Training Command, Naval Weapons Station Charleston, South Carolina.
2 years in and counting
...also applying to the
United States Naval Academy
C/o 2017
Sparky, do you still have access to a .mil account or NKO account?...You might wanna email CMDCM Herbert M. Ellis...and let him know what one of his Junior NCO's is spouting.
I'm working on finding a link to the PAO office to give them a heads up about this knuckle head.
Petty Officer Millen...you ****ed up son.
For the record...he'd have been find if he hadn't done this in uniform.
But the dumb shit just had to be in his winter blues when he did it.
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Start with this:
http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/134410p.pdf
This is DoD Directive 1344.10. It covers all legal aspects of political activies while being part of the military, particularly the wearing of the uniform.
Interesting how he starts his letter stating he is "part of the 47% who would never vote for Romney." Does he even know the genesis of that particular percentage? It is about those who don't pay taxes. As far as I know, virtually every military member pays taxes, unless they have unique, uncommon economic circumstances that knock their tax rate to zero.
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Start with this:
http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/134410p.pdf
This is DoD Directive 1344.10. It covers all legal aspects of political activies while being part of the military, particularly the wearing of the uniform.
Yup...practically have it memorized. :) Looks like this kid should have read it a little more closely.
Turds like this were more prevalent when W was in office. Ntt the first time I've been part of contacting someone's chain of command to let them know what's going on.
Just ask LynnTheDem :-) :tongue: :fuelfire:
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Yup...practically have it memorized. :) Looks like this kid should have read it a little more closely.
Turds like this were more prevalent when W was in office. Ntt the first time I've been part of contacting someone's chain of command to let them know what's going on.
Just ask LynnTheDem :-) :tongue: :fuelfire:
Target. H5, tx. From one Dragoon to another.
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Target. H5, tx. From one Dragoon to another.
Always ready brother!
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You can also try to send this information to the Armed Service committee for the House of Representatives. All contact information is here. In particular, I would recommend calling the chairman's office.
Contact information, including phone numbers and emails of members and stakeholders, for House Armed Services committee: http://congress.org/congressorg/directory/committees.tt?commid=sarme
In addition you may send the same information to the Senate Armed Service committee, but Carl Levin is not someone who would advance the ball on this one. John McCain, ranking member on the senate, may have some influence though.
Contact information for Senate Armed Services committee: http://congress.org/congressorg/directory/committees.tt?commid=hsecu
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Here is Millen's now-deleted page from whence the post originated. He had a blog, and I'm sure you can find other snippets as well.
Millen calls himself THE NONSENSICAL NUKE
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:DLKcY3NOA98J:howdoiwhatisthis.tumblr.com/post/32013374469+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
From the bio:
Petty Officer Millen, USN. Electrician's Mate Third Class. Potential Officer Candidate of the United States Naval Academy. Stationed at Naval Nuclear Power Training Command, Naval Weapons Station Charleston, South Carolina. I am a comic, a philosopher, a linguist, a nerd, a romantic, a realist, a progressive, and a dreamer. These qualities shape everything I do. Unwavering and absolute loyalty to the United States and the Navy that I serve. I am working to improve myself mentally, emotionally, and physically, to become the best Sailor I can be. This blog has become everything that I am. Enjoy
"Potential Officer Candidate of the United States Naval Academy."
Riiiiiiiiight.
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Here is Millen's now-deleted page from whence the post originated. He had a blog, and I'm sure you can find other snippets as well.
Millen calls himself THE NONSENSICAL NUKE
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:DLKcY3NOA98J:howdoiwhatisthis.tumblr.com/post/32013374469+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
From the bio:
"Potential Officer Candidate of the United States Naval Academy."
Riiiiiiiiight.
LOL! Thanks. I bet Sparky is gonna looooooooove seeing this one.
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Wait, but the Daily Kos posters says he is fine:
Romney is NOT president only a candidate (5+ / 0-)
He isn't even an elected Official of any State or County or City, and hasn't been for many years now.
A member of the Armed Services cannot participate while in uniform in any sort of political campaigning - but that is not what is taking place here.
This petty officer is merely making a public statement about his personal family situation, the Law of the Land, and his Commander in Chief, whom he obviously admires - oh, and how another US citizen, namely one Willard Mitt Romney, is not fit to serve in the Office of the President.
I don't think any current military regs cover that as a No Can Do, although I am eager to hear from any previously or currently serving member of the US Armed Forces on the subject...
by Angie in WA State on Sun Sep 23, 2012 at 12:48:42 AM PDT
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/09/23/1135419/-DKos-TWEETers-MOUNT-UP
Y'all just don't know what you are talking about....
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I don't think any current military regs cover that as a No Can Do, although I am eager to hear from any previously or currently serving member of the US Armed Forces on the subject...
Here lurkers...take this back to that idiot Kos Kiddie:
4.1.1.9. Attend partisan and nonpartisan political fundraising activities, meetings, rallies, debates, conventions, or activities as a spectator when not in uniform and when no inference or appearance of official sponsorship, approval, or endorsement can reasonably be drawn.
4.1.2.1. Participate in partisan political fundraising activities (except as permitted in subparagraph 4.1.1.7.), rallies, conventions (including making speeches in the course thereof), management of campaigns, or debates, either on one’s own behalf or on that of another, without respect to uniform or inference or appearance of official sponsorship, approval, or endorsement. Participation includes more than mere attendance as a spectator. (See subparagraph 4.1.1.9.)
4.1.2.3. Allow or cause to be published partisan political articles, letters, or endorsements signed or written by the member that solicits votes for or against a partisan political party, candidate, or cause. This is distinguished from a letter to the editor as permitted under the conditions noted in subparagraph 4.1.1.6.
4.1.2.5. Speak before a partisan political gathering, including any gathering that promotes a partisan political party, candidate, or cause.
http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/134410p.pdf
Like I said the only mistake the idiot made was posting that crap in his Cracker Jack outfit. But it's still a mistake that coule embarass his command and get his superiors in trouble.
Hence the reason they have to be notified.
ETA: This is the same kind of crap and same violations that got that idiot Paul supporter in deep kim-chee
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Oh I know. I remember the last time we lived on base and received notice from the base commander that absolutely no political signs will be allowed in base housing.
My husband used to get yearly reminders to be careful about political donations and activity. He stayed away from all of it when he was on AD.
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My letter to the office of the Command Master Chief, Naval Nuclear Power Training Command.
Dear Sir:
I am writing to notify you that one of the sailors under your command may be violating DoD Directive 1344.10, which specifies political activities as a member of the armed forces, and SECNAVINST 5720.44, special consideration to naval personnel.
The sailor's name has been identified as P.O. Millen. I've included a copy of his very public, poster-sized "letter" which is a political statement. At the time he posed with the letter, he was wearing a military uniform with his rank in plain sight.
I would appreciate you directing any appropriate personnel into investigating this apparently obvious breach of protocol, as well as violation of military law, of which many similar incidents have resulted in punishments, including less than honorable discharges. Of recent note, a US Marine was recently disciplined for posting political opinions on his Facebook page. Part of that punishment included a less-than-honorable discharge.
Finally, I don't wish to disparage P.O. Millen's service, which I can assume has been stellar in all other regards. I, along with many other veterans of the US armed services, take great pride in our service with individuals of all political opinions and beliefs. However, we wish to note that such an action on his part must be investigated. Even if PO Millen has been discharged from service, from what I understand an investigation can still take place.
Thank you for your time, and thank everyone in your command for your service to our country.
Jonah Kyle
Attachment enclosed: (These were the two images of the open letter)
I want to thank our patriot friends at the Democratic Underground for this heads-up in identifying Millen's indiscretion. (yes, that was sarcasm)
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Oh I know. I remember the last time we lived on base and received notice from the base commander that absolutely no political signs will be allowed in base housing.
My husband used to get yearly reminders to be careful about political donations and activity. He stayed away from all of it when he was on AD.
I've had people in the past try to jam me up for merely posting on here. Didn't work out for them...obviously. :-)
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They're letting that comic idiot handle nuclear stuff in my home state.... :panic: :panic:
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For any lurkers that think they can take a run at myself or any other military member on this forum...let me remind you that:
The views expressed by military members on this forum are their own personal views and do not in any way represent the Department of Defense, The U.S. Army, U.S. Navy, U.S. Marine Corps, U.S. Air Force or the U.S. Coast Guard.
Also, the appearance of external links on this site does not constitute official endorsement on behalf of United States Forces to any political party or specific candidate.
Just don't wear your uniform when posting. :lmao:
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They're letting that comic idiot handle nuclear stuff in my home state.... :panic: :panic:
Kinda makes you shiver doesn't it?
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They're letting that comic idiot handle nuclear stuff in my home state.... :panic: :panic:
It could be worse . . . He could be up in my state (it'd only be less than 10 miles from me, and only a couple of miles from both my sister/BIL and my parents). :tongue: :fuelfire:
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Oh I know. I remember the last time we lived on base and received notice from the base commander that absolutely no political signs will be allowed in base housing.
My husband used to get yearly reminders to be careful about political donations and activity. He stayed away from all of it when he was on AD.
The last time we were in base housing was during the run-up to the 2008 elections. We had a guy almost kicked out of housing because his wife's car was plastered with political bumper stickers, many that were extremely anit-establishment. Then we all got notices posted on our doors about what is/is not allowed on a military installation.
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Chatty customers on the mail route keep trying to get me into discussing politics. They seem to think I have some inside knowledge of what is going to happen, and I bite my tongue every time.
All but one are against Obama. The one pro-Obama probably posts on DU. -And another is not only against Obama, but is against Romney as well. But this customer is a total Infowars/Illuminati conspiracy theory type.
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Chatty customers on the mail route keep trying to get me into discussing politics. They seem to think I have some inside knowledge of what is going to happen, and I bite my tongue every time.
All but one are against Obama. The one pro-Obama probably posts on DU. -And another is not only against Obama, but is against Romney as well. But this customer is a total Infowars/Illuminati conspiracy theory type.
I've run across a few of those myself, being an RCA, I get to see a LOT of customers on many different routes.
I am seeing an avalanche of RomneyRyan yard signs going up, the Zero/Biteme ones I can count on one hand. (And this is a "college town" to boot!)
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I'm keeping up with this one. Want to see is this dude gets wallduded, military style.
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I'm keeping up with this one. Want to see is this dude gets wallduded, military style.
I don't think he will be "Wallduded" completely, but I suspect his dreams of advancement will be curtailed. What a DUmbass.
Here is a little bit of trivia for lurking DUmbasses - The Hatch Act (and indirectly its DoDD clone for armed service members) was put into place because Democrats used civilian political office as a way to engage in partisan political activity, and Democrats have tried to have it overturned on more than one occasion as a 'violation of Free Speech'.
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I don't think he will be "Wallduded" completely, but I suspect his dreams of advancement will be curtailed. What a DUmbass.
Here is a little bit of trivia for lurking DUmbasses - The Hatch Act (and indirectly its DoDD clone for armed service members) was put into place because Democrats used civilian political office as a way to engage in partisan political activity, and Democrats have tried to have it overturned on more than one occasion as a 'violation of Free Speech'.
IMHO he won't be wallduded or held up for promotion...assuming this is his first time getting his hand slapped.
They'll just counsel him...read him the regs and have him sign something saying he'll refrain from doing it again.
Now...if this isn't his first time or he is stupid enough to do it again....
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IMHO he won't be wallduded or held up for promotion...assuming this is his first time getting his hand slapped.
They'll just counsel him...read him the regs and have him sign something saying he'll refrain from doing it again.
Now...if this isn't his first time or he is stupid enough to do it again....
I defer to your opinion on this matter - I figured in regard to his promotion he would be held up pending the outcome of an investigation on exactly what he has been saying & doing, where, and when.
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My letter to the office of the Command Master Chief, Naval Nuclear Power Training Command.
I want to thank our patriot friends at the Democratic Underground for this heads-up in identifying Millen's indiscretion. (yes, that was sarcasm)
Oh, my! H5
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Romney doesn't know anything about economics? :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
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I defer to your opinion on this matter - I figured in regard to his promotion he would be held up pending the outcome of an investigation on exactly what he has been saying & doing, where, and when.
I was trying to be optimistic. Most of the kids I've dealt with on stuff like this...they don't learn...they get indignant and dig a deeper hole.
Or they try to argue with whomever is counseling them and THAT leads to his superiors digging deeper and putting things like promotions on hold.
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I was trying to be optimistic. Most of the kids I've dealt with on stuff like this...they don't learn...they get indignant and dig a deeper hole.
Or they try to argue with whomever is counseling them and THAT leads to his superiors digging deeper and putting things like promotions on hold.
IOW, this kind of stupid had deep roots.
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I don't think he will be "Wallduded" completely, but I suspect his dreams of advancement will be curtailed. What a DUmbass.
Here is a little bit of trivia for lurking DUmbasses - The Hatch Act (and indirectly its DoDD clone for armed service members) was put into place because Democrats used civilian political office as a way to engage in partisan political activity, and Democrats have tried to have it overturned on more than one occasion as a 'violation of Free Speech'.
Wasn;t there a NG general in MA that got the boot for campaigning with his title? I will have to google later when I have time, but it was something like that.
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Wasn;t there a NG general in MA that got the boot for campaigning with his title? I will have to google later when I have time, but it was something like that.
The only one I can find re: the Adjutant General of MA...was related to his improper use of government vehicles.
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IOW, this kind of stupid had deep roots.
It probably does. It isn't as if this is a new regulation, so I suspect he knows about it & is looking to make a splash as a progressive badass stuck in the 'rethug-filled' military.. Troof-2-Powah, etc.
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Oh snap!
KC
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Wasn;t there a NG general in MA that got the boot for campaigning with his title? I will have to google later when I have time, but it was something like that.
I am not familiar with this story. Interesting. I have a lot of yard work to do today, if I have time, I'll hit the Nadin engine myself.
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The kid writes ignorantly while supporting the "one" who has no such education or experience on economics at all:
You don't know a damn thing about economics
From Wikipedia is the educational and financial experience background on Mitt Romney:
In 1971, he earned a Bachelor of Arts from Brigham Young University and, in 1975, a joint Juris Doctor and Master of Business Administration from Harvard University. Romney entered the management consulting industry, and in 1977 secured a position at Bain & Company. Later serving as its chief executive officer, he helped bring the company out of financial crisis. In 1984, he co-founded and led the spin-off company Bain Capital, a private equity investment firm that became highly profitable and one of the largest such firms in the nation. His net worth is estimated at $190–250 million, wealth that helped fund his political campaigns prior to 2012.
Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney)
:lmao:
Then this kid continues his babbling with this:
I am happy with my Commander in Chief,who ended two wars and got Osama
The "one" who has botched the embassy security and failed to fight the undeniable muslim terrorism uprisings that is now ongoing BECAUSE of his feeble foreign policy.
There is no evidence that Barry Sotero ordered the actual attack on Bin Laden but by Panetta or someone else in his circle.
Reading what Obama supporters think is a journey into the madhouse.
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I don't think he will be "Wallduded" completely, but I suspect his dreams of advancement will be curtailed. What a DUmbass.
Here is a little bit of trivia for lurking DUmbasses - The Hatch Act (and indirectly its DoDD clone for armed service members) was put into place because Democrats used civilian political office as a way to engage in partisan political activity, and Democrats have tried to have it overturned on more than one occasion as a 'violation of Free Speech'.
'Tis the season for The Hatch Act (http://www.osc.gov/hatchact.htm) to be posted and read again and again. Funny the things you remember to forget once retired. :tongue:
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I am not familiar with this story. Interesting. I have a lot of yard work to do today, if I have time, I'll hit the Nadin engine myself.
I can't find it, but I just asked my husband and he thought it was in RI. Some general was soliciting donations from military personnel for the governor. It was a while back.
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Start with this:
http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/134410p.pdf
This is DoD Directive 1344.10. It covers all legal aspects of political activies while being part of the military, particularly the wearing of the uniform.
Interesting how he starts his letter stating he is "part of the 47% who would never vote for Romney." Does he even know the genesis of that particular percentage? It is about those who don't pay taxes. As far as I know, virtually every military member pays taxes, unless they have unique, uncommon economic circumstances that knock their tax rate to zero.
I've always found this a little bizarre. Paying taxes on taxes.
Cindie
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It probably does. It isn't as if this is a new regulation, so I suspect he knows about it & is looking to make a splash as a progressive badass stuck in the 'rethug-filled' military.. Troof-2-Powah, etc.
^^^This
We had one of those in my division back in '76. He was a self-styled intellectual, always drinking herbal tea and talking Leftist shit and how the commies weren't so bad and blah-blah-blah. I invited him out of the car for an ass kicking once but he wouldn't come.
He ended up losing his security clearance and doing scut work in some public relations photo lab, which he probably enjoyed since it got him out of sea duty. Asshole.
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Petty Officer Millen, USN. Electrician's Mate Third Class. Stationed at Naval Nuclear Power Training Command, Naval Weapons Station Charleston, South Carolina.
Sparky, do you still have access to a .mil account or NKO account?...You might wanna email CMDCM Herbert M. Ellis...and let him know what one of his Junior NCO's is spouting.
Sadly, I am not a retiree so I do not have a NOL account, but I might still know a few people at NNPTC.
Boy dun ****ed up. Something tells me his GPA ain't exactly putting him top of his class, and this little stunt will basically get any chance at NROTC, USNA, or NAPS blown out of the water.
And for the record, if he's been in two years and is STILL in the pipeline, there's something basically wrong. Last time I checked, Boot = 8 weeks, NFAS "EM" = 20 +/- weeks, NPS = 24 weeks, NPTU = 26 weeks. I went from NFAS to fleet in 18 months, so 20 if you count boot. If this kid's been in two years, he's been rolled back or dropped.
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I'm keeping up with this one. Want to see is this dude gets wallduded, military style.
More than likely his Section Advisor (Chief) and CMC will have a nice little chat with him, and perhaps a visit to XOI (usually a step before CO's Mast) to scare the living shit out of him and remind him that politicking in uniform is a big no-no.
But if the kid is a shitbag, this is an excellent chance to flush the turd via DU (Demonstrated Unreliability) at CO's Mast for Art. 134.
And yeah, if he thinks he's in a world of shit now, let him hit the fleet and send this to his "buddies" where he's going to be working. This kid'll be curled into the fetal position before he finishes his check-in.
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But if the kid is a shitbag, this is an excellent chance to flush the turd via DU (Demonstrated Unreliability) at CO's Mast for Art. 134.
Hmmm..."DU" stands for something else, it's on the tip of my tongue... :afro:
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Got my reply from Charleston. In full...
Erskine, Kevin L MMCM NNPTC, D314 (email deleted for security reasons by Kyle)
to me
Mr. Kyle,
Thanks for bringing this to my attention, we will evaluate this and take
appropriate action.
V/R Master Chief Erskine
So consider the authorities notified.
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I've always found this (military paying taxes) a little bizarre. Paying taxes on taxes.
So basically, all federal politicians and workers are bizarrely paying taxes. Frankly, except for the military and other vital service personnel, they should have to pay at least double the rate, in my book (and military should get a lower rate across the board in any case).
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So basically, all federal politicians and workers are bizarrely paying taxes. Frankly, except for the military and other vital service personnel, they should have to pay at least double the rate, in my book (and military should get a lower rate across the board in any case).
Well, we pretty much do. In a combat zone, you don't pay ANY taxes (and why reenlistments go up a LOT there) and under normal circumstances, pay is taxed, whereas allowances are not. Further, not all pay is subject to both Federal/state and Social Security tax, so that's another little break.
Believe me, even getting out as a lowly E-6 I had to have a nice little pay hike to bring home the same amount.
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Got my reply from Charleston. In full...
So consider the authorities notified.
H5 duly earned, and given.
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I would love to be a fly on the wall of that conversation. Kid doesn't even know what hit him.
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I bet our young petty officer also has a thing or two to tell all those SEALs disrespecting his CinC!
Why...you just leave them alone together in the same room for just 5 minutes and you'll see whose boss!
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I bet our young petty officer also has a thing or two to tell all those SEALs disrespecting his CinC!
Why...you just leave them alone together in the same room for just 5 minutes and you'll see whose boss!
I'd kinda like to be the fly on the wall for that one. O-) :whistling:
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I'd kinda like to be the fly on the wall for that one. O-) :whistling:
"He fell down.
"A LOT."
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"He fell down.
"A LOT."
Reminds me of a funny article.
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"Balloon the debt"
Man that's funny coming from a guy who supports obama
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A message to Mr. Romney from a former Petty Officer in the US Navy...can I have my job back? ...pretty please ...with sugar on top....it's tough out here in the Obamaconomy.
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http://militarytimes.com/blogs/scoopdeck/2012/09/24/sailor-calls-romney-a-narrow-minded-bigot/
No word yet on if the lad received a bit of "wall-to-wall counseling", but I'm pretty sure his shot at the USNA is now officially dead.
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http://militarytimes.com/blogs/scoopdeck/2012/09/24/sailor-calls-romney-a-narrow-minded-bigot/
No word yet on if the lad received a bit of "wall-to-wall counseling", but I'm pretty sure his shot at the USNA is now officially dead.
Taxes are strange. As it has been YEARS ago I will need some help here. In the 1960's ones home port was the state in where you enlisted. So if a family filing joint taxes in a state taxable state thousands of miles from the enlistment took place the state of enlistment could charge state taxes on the bill to tax a spouses salary even if they had never set foot in that State. Very confusing to me. And if living in and working in a State tax area both spouses have to pay that state also.
Then the on going debate between Maine and New Hampshire. Not too sure about this one either----Seems that if you live in New Hampshire but work in Maine you can be held to pay taxes in Maine. A family with one member working in N.H. the other working in Maine if filling jointly the worker in N.H. has to also pay Maine Taxes. I still do not understand this tax business.
At one time you could deduct from the Federal returns and Federal taxes all ready paid. Fed tax on gas, heating oil ,booze and cigarettes. one time in the 1970's we could deduct interest on any loan be they vehicle or home, including credit cards.
I became curious and called H&R Block to see if we could deduct the State mandated tax's on pre cooked food from our Federal. I figured that if I could deduct town tax's on a dog license or a car, boat ,moter home, why not a state tax on food ??????
Oh yes I know people that may come up short for the amount of federal deductions they can claim, they tell me they start buying up Lottery tickets like mad, If they win fine but if they loose a few thousand dollars to non winners this amount may just push them over the top for a Big loss deduction.
I must have been pushed around to half a dozen people that each had called the IRS with my question and received 6 different answers. Kind of chilling when if the IRS ok's a deduction and the account Clerk is WRONG, you may have to pay fines for their mistake.
" It's the tax man, if you walk to work they tax your feet. "
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This E4, who chances are, lives in the barracks, probably gets a refund every year. Even if he lives out in town he probably gets a tax refund every year. Unless he screwed up his tax forms. The only thing he would have possibly had a tax liability on would have been any bonuses that were paid for nuke (or he is currently paying back). I have yet to meet a third class that actually paid taxes. When I was a lowly HM3 I had 0 tax liability even without claiming my son.
This kid who is stationed on the USS Neversail has never been in a war zone. So his getting tax free pay is a moot point.
So Petty Officer Milen I have a question for you.
I will give you the conflict in Iraq that Obama ended while leaving them open for invasion by Iran. But what was the second war that he ended? Care to enlighten me on that? How about his empty promises about GTMO?
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What an oxygen-thieving douche... This is told to you upon entering basic training or Boot camp, but I guess some people particulary enjoy :banghead:. I wonder if this could cost him his TS clearance?
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He has disgraced his uniform. Thank you for alerting them! :-*
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He has disgraced his uniform. Thank you for alerting them! :-*
Ah youth, a young man who has great potential. I did notice in the photos of him half his face was covered and without full facial reorganization he may claim he was set up. He can claim that photo was not him, all kinds of ways to jigger this about Never know when that Face book stuff was without his knowledge. It takes time and money to track all this down.
As Sparkey knows full well when a Boss gets notice about one of those under security clearance and has an out of the blue attack, things get Iffier.
Long story but it is not my story to tell it is Sparkeys.
Before we jump the gun and try to destroy a Young mans life and carear we need facts. Was this in fact him who posted on face book and the man behind the notices ????? Who took the pictures and encouraged him to do so.??????
What was wrong with swearing allegiance to his Commander and Chief ??????? Was this film ever shown at a fundraising drive ???? So Much to consider, what were his motives, can a man in uniform not stick up for his President ????
This whole thing to me stinks, had he been trying to over throw Obama then I see the outrage, but to support the president------ Questions on top of questions.
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Vesta, you make a good point. That's why the investigation must be performed. Note in my letter to the base chief, I used the term "alleged" for this very reason.
Having said that, I do live in the real world. I doubt seriously that anyone was setting up PO Millen. Impersonation of a military officer or enlisted person is also a federal crime, but this transcends UCMJ; it's a federal dinger. Not that any idiot would care about such a law if they had the DUmpmonkey mentality, I do concede.
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Vesta, you make a good point. That's why the investigation must be performed. Note in my letter to the base chief, I used the term "alleged" for this very reason.
Having said that, I do live in the real world. I doubt seriously that anyone was setting up PO Millen. Impersonation of a military officer or enlisted person is also a federal crime, but this transcends UCMJ; it's a federal dinger. Not that any idiot would care about such a law if they had the DUmpmonkey mentality, I do concede.
^5 for being a better man than I. I can not read the ramblings.
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Ah youth, a young man who has great potential. I did notice in the photos of him half his face was covered and without full facial reorganization he may claim he was set up. He can claim that photo was not him, all kinds of ways to jigger this about Never know when that Face book stuff was without his knowledge. It takes time and money to track all this down.
As Sparkey knows full well when a Boss gets notice about one of those under security clearance and has an out of the blue attack, things get Iffier.
Long story but it is not my story to tell it is Sparkeys.
Before we jump the gun and try to destroy a Young mans life and carear we need facts. Was this in fact him who posted on face book and the man behind the notices ????? Who took the pictures and encouraged him to do so.??????
What was wrong with swearing allegiance to his Commander and Chief ??????? Was this film ever shown at a fundraising drive ???? So Much to consider, what were his motives, can a man in uniform not stick up for his President ????
This whole thing to me stinks, had he been trying to over throw Obama then I see the outrage, but to support the president------ Questions on top of questions.
This post is proof positive that you should be under close adult supervision when you get near a computer.
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Ah youth, a young man who has great potential. I did notice in the photos of him half his face was covered and without full facial reorganization he may claim he was set up. He can claim that photo was not him, all kinds of ways to jigger this about Never know when that Face book stuff was without his knowledge. It takes time and money to track all this down.
As Sparkey knows full well when a Boss gets notice about one of those under security clearance and has an out of the blue attack, things get Iffier.
Long story but it is not my story to tell it is Sparkeys.
Before we jump the gun and try to destroy a Young mans life and carear we need facts. Was this in fact him who posted on face book and the man behind the notices ????? Who took the pictures and encouraged him to do so.??????
What was wrong with swearing allegiance to his Commander and Chief ??????? Was this film ever shown at a fundraising drive ???? So Much to consider, what were his motives, can a man in uniform not stick up for his President ????
This whole thing to me stinks, had he been trying to over throw Obama then I see the outrage, but to support the president------ Questions on top of questions.
Vesta,
They swear to uphold and protect the CONSTITUTION, NOT a man. The president swears the same. If the military swore allegiance to a man, we would have ceased to be a Republic long ago. Military members have certain rules and regulations. They know these rules and regulations. They get copious copies, they can find them online. They sign an oath. They get copies BEFORE they enlist. Heck, the most important ones my son could cite verbatim after boot camp.
One of their "rules" is that they not engaged in politics IN THEIR UNIFORM. Our military serves at the behest of civilians, one of whom (Romney or 0bama), will be CinC after the election. Can you not see the issue here? Think about the prospect of the whole military coming out like this kid did IN UNIFORM and protesting one candidate or another. Could be a little tricky after the election, dontcha think? Out of uniform and among friends they can & do express their opinions. But surely even you can see the conflict of interest here can't you?
Cindie
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Wasn;t there a NG general in MA that got the boot for campaigning with his title? I will have to google later when I have time, but it was something like that.
Actually, one just resigned, but the charges were a tad more serious. Try allegations of rape from 1984.
http://www.necn.com/09/19/12/Mass-National-Guard-Adjutant-General-Jos/landing.html?blockID=776117
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I'm pretty sure his shot at the USNA is now officially dead.
How so? Every member of congress makes appointments to the service academies.
I'd say this guy is a shoo-in for an appointment from a moonbat like Sheila Jackson Lee.
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I bet our young petty officer also has a thing or two to tell all those SEALs disrespecting his CinC!
Why...you just leave them alone together in the same room for just 5 minutes and you'll see whose boss!
That's a little unfair. How about one SEAL, asleep, drunk, hands tied behind his back in a strait-jacket.
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That's a little unfair. How about one SEAL, asleep, drunk, hands tied behind his back in a strait-jacket.
Well hell, if you're trying to make this a "fair" WTW counseling session, why don't you spot the young lad an 8" sap as well? :rotf:
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I thought 0bamaCare wasn't implemented yet.
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I thought 0bamaCare wasn't implemented yet.
So many idots think that it went into effect when Obama signed the bill. A few things did, but the bill for them doesn't come due for several years.
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So many idots think that it went into effect when Obama signed the bill. A few things did, but the bill for them doesn't come due for several years.
conveniently after the 2012 elections...
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Well hell, if you're trying to make this a "fair" WTW counseling session, why don't you spot the young lad an 8" sap as well? :rotf:
Heh! Still wouldn't be fair. :rofl:
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Quote from: Duke Nukum on Today at 02:42:12 pm
I thought 0bamaCare wasn't implemented yet.
Nothing that CPO (D)oUchetool would be referencing with his little signs, has been. That's just another :bouncy: reason it's bullshit.
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How so? Every member of congress makes appointments to the service academies.
I'd say this guy is a shoo-in for an appointment from a moonbat like Sheila Jackson Lee.
Depends--he can get a Congressional appointment still, but IIRC he has to do so through the Congresscritter from his Home of Record.
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How so? Every member of congress makes appointments to the service academies.
I'd say this guy is a shoo-in for an appointment from a moonbat like Sheila Jackson Lee.
The Congress critter has to be from that Sailor's particular state.
And they'll take a look at his service record up tot he time of his request/application to see if he's Mid-Shipman worthy.
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Depends--he can get a Congressional appointment still, but IIRC he has to do so through the Congresscritter from his Home of Record.
Not just Military Academies, my son and cousin when in High School had to get a"Congresscritter" to appoint them to Maine Maratine Academy and that is a Private pay as you go until the money runs out in the family. If the family is wealthy enough to support the tuition for a full 4 years the kid may still have to take out student loans. So much is not covered by tuition,have to figure on an extra $4-5thousand a year over tuition.
Strange thing,when I did a AB rip off on the USS KINGSPORT,in the 1980's most of the Officers were Maratine Graduates from
the Academy in New Jersey. The crew were all enlisted men in the Navy. Some kind of Spy Ship or what ever,we were forbidden to ask questions about the ship, so as my son was due to go to MMA in a few months I collared an officer to tell me what Academy life was all about. She [the ship ] was an old thing, I would not want to go to sea in her in the condition she was in when we found her. When we left her she was down right pretty, like night and day the engine room, I was proud of that job.