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Title: WaPo factchecker: Obama's "redistribution" comments taken out of context
Post by: pandric on September 20, 2012, 03:48:24 PM
The Washington Post fact-checker gave four Pinochios (the equivalent of a big lie) to the accusation that Obama supported redistribution of wealth in a 1998 video. The fact-checker points to the full, unedited video, and redistribution of wealth is not mentioned in these comments, according to the Fact-checker.

Here's the part missing from the clipped Youtube version:

How do we pool resources at the same time as we decentralize delivery systems in ways that both foster competition, can work in the marketplace, and can foster innovation at the local level and can be tailored to particular communities.”

Link (http://is.gd/8iTOja)

Title: Re: WaPo factchecker: Obama's "redistribution" comments taken out of context
Post by: EagleKeeper on September 20, 2012, 03:53:11 PM
"WAPO factchecker"

That is unpossible.
 :rofl:
Title: Re: WaPo factchecker: Obama's "redistribution" comments taken out of context
Post by: TheBirthCertificate on September 21, 2012, 09:29:44 PM
I don't think we need a video tape to know that Obama wants to take our money away (http://imgur.com/Ud4fL).

Title: Re: WaPo factchecker: Obama's "redistribution" comments taken out of context
Post by: obumazombie on September 21, 2012, 09:32:43 PM
If an eyewitness at the scene is needed, Joe the plumber would be happy to testify.
Title: Re: WaPo factchecker: Obama's "redistribution" comments taken out of context
Post by: Bad Dog on September 22, 2012, 12:34:04 AM
In addition, the next day he was heard to ask for mustard on his hot dog.  This statement, which clearly shows he is not a redistributionist, was also edited from his remarks.
Title: Re: WaPo factchecker: Obama's "redistribution" comments taken out of context
Post by: formerlurker on September 22, 2012, 07:21:00 AM
“As we think about the policy research surrounding the issues that I just named — policy research for the working poor, broadly defined — I think that what we're gonna have to do is somehow  resuscitate the notion that government action can be effective at all. There has been a systematic, I don't think it's too strong to call it a propaganda campaign, against the possibility of government action and its efficacy. And I think some of it has been deserved. Chicago Housing Authority has not been a model of good policy making. And neither necessarily have been the Chicago public schools. What that means then is that as we try to resuscitate this notion that we're all in this thing together, leave nobody behind, we do have to be innovative in thinking how, what are the delivery systems that are actually effective and meet people where they live, and my suggestion I guess would be that the trick, and this is one of the few areas where I think there have to be technical issues that have to be dealt with as opposed to  just political issues, how do we structure government systems that pool resources and hence facilitate some redistribution, because I actually believe in redistribution, at least at a certain level to make sure that everybody's got a shot. How do we pool resources at the same time as we decentralize delivery systems in ways that both foster competition, can work in the marketplace, and can foster innovation at the local level and can be tailored to particular communities.”

Well WaPo fact checker dude, I am having a hard time reading this as anything but how it was presented by the Romney campaign.  The context is crystal clear to anyone with two functioning brain cells. 

Share the wealth baby, and let's be creative about it.   Mmmmkay?

 :whatever:
Title: Re: WaPo factchecker: Obama's "redistribution" comments taken out of context
Post by: Undies on September 22, 2012, 07:24:37 AM
According to the "Washington Post Factcheckers" the Soviet Union won the Cold War by a field goal.
Title: Re: WaPo factchecker: Obama's "redistribution" comments taken out of context
Post by: MrsSmith on September 22, 2012, 07:49:35 AM
It is a sad situation when media "fact" checkers intentionally ignore facts and lie to benefit their candidate-of-choice.  It's an even sadder situation that so much of the US simply takes their word for it.   :mental:
Title: Re: WaPo factchecker: Obama's "redistribution" comments taken out of context
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on September 22, 2012, 08:06:22 AM
"Washington Post fact-checker."  It is to laugh.  That's like having an ombudsman's office in Eichmann's department.
Title: Re: WaPo factchecker: Obama's "redistribution" comments taken out of context
Post by: Kyle Ricky on September 22, 2012, 10:59:50 AM
Nothing like having a liberal fact checker do the work, eh?
Title: Re: WaPo factchecker: Obama's "redistribution" comments taken out of context
Post by: thundley4 on September 22, 2012, 07:49:59 PM
Nothing like having a liberal  fact checker do the work, eh?

Those three words do not fit together in the way they are used.
Title: Re: WaPo factchecker: Obama's "redistribution" comments taken out of context
Post by: Kyle Ricky on September 22, 2012, 08:31:18 PM
Those three words do not fit together in the way they are used.

I agree...
Title: Re: WaPo factchecker: Obama's "redistribution" comments taken out of context
Post by: NHSparky on September 22, 2012, 10:04:10 PM
Those three words do not fit together in the way they are used.

They don't fit together, period.
Title: Re: WaPo factchecker: Obama's "redistribution" comments taken out of context
Post by: obumazombie on September 22, 2012, 10:36:59 PM
A fact checker that doesn't actually check facts, is about as useful as a news reporter that doesn't check and verify sources. Jayson Blair anyone ?
Title: Re: WaPo factchecker: Obama's "redistribution" comments taken out of context
Post by: Kyle Ricky on September 23, 2012, 03:42:07 PM
A fact checker that doesn't actually check facts, is about as useful as a news reporter that doesn't check and verify sources. Jayson Blair anyone ?

That is the whole MSM there, obumazombie.
Title: Re: WaPo factchecker: Obama's "redistribution" comments taken out of context
Post by: JohnnyReb on September 23, 2012, 05:55:28 PM
"...because I actually believe in redistribution, at least at a certain level..."  That level does not include the DUmmies, Obama and friends. You and I however are to be screwed.