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Title: Dead Guantanamo Prisoner On Why He Gave Up on Life
Post by: Freeper on September 15, 2012, 10:22:28 PM
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Whovian (187 posts)

Dead Guantanamo Prisoner On Why He Gave Up on Life


 
Adnan Latif was found dead in his cell on September 10th, 2012, just a day before the eleventh anniversary of 9/11. He was 32. Latif, a Yemeni citizen, had been detained at Guantanamo Bay for over a decade, despite a 2010 court ruling that ordered the Obama administration to "take all necessary and appropriate diplomatic steps to facilitate Latif's release forthwith," due to lack of evidence that he had committed any crime. He suffered at the hands of the US government in ways that most people can't begin to comprehend, and his death should be a reminder that the national shame that is Guantanamo Bay lives on and now enjoys bipartisan support.

Reexamining a letter he wrote to his lawyer David Remes in December of 2010 shows the depths of his despair near the end of his life. His letter begins simply. The first paragraph is just one devastating sentence: "Do whatever you wish to do, the issue is over." He then goes on to describe Guantanamo as, "a prison that does not know humanity, and does not know except the language of power, oppression, and humiliation for whoever enters it."

"Anybody who is able to die," Latif writes, "will be able to achieve happiness for himself, he has no hope except that."

He continues:

"The requirement...is to leave this life which is no longer anymore called a life, instead it itself has become death and renewable torture. Ending it is a mercy and happiness for this soul. I will not allow any more of this and I will end it."

Rest of the story at http://truth-out.org/news/item/11551-dead-guantanamo-prisoner-on-why-he-gave-up-on-life#.UFUmKq7kOOs.facebook

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021353395

My heart bleeds for him, just as much as the hearts of the DUmmies bleed for the victim of an abortion. That is to say not at all.

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Bonobo (17,939 posts)
1. What we have now is a kinder, gentler and more secret torture program...

with no recourse to the law.

Yet you are fine with voting for four more years of that.  :mental:

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Comrade Grumpy (1,302 posts)
11. Guantamo is an abomination, a stain upon the nation.

We should be ashamed before the world.

You are right we should be ashamed, ashamed that we didn't kill off these monsters.





Title: Re: Dead Guantanamo Prisoner On Why He Gave Up on Life
Post by: BigTex on September 15, 2012, 11:08:03 PM
Funny how they have not condemned their deity Slick Willy for saying he wouldnt have made the Guantanamo prison to begin with but he would have made one in the US instead.




Title: Re: Dead Guantanamo Prisoner On Why He Gave Up on Life
Post by: diesel driver on September 16, 2012, 07:17:51 AM
I don't see anything wrong with this.

Dead muzzie, no other victims except the muzzie.

Perfect ending.
Title: Re: Dead Guantanamo Prisoner On Why He Gave Up on Life
Post by: Doc Savage on September 16, 2012, 07:38:02 AM
Should have given him an explosive vest and sent him into the mine field.  Let him know that hundreds of thousands of infidels live on the other side.  More air for all of us
Title: Re: Dead Guantanamo Prisoner On Why He Gave Up on Life
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on September 16, 2012, 08:09:55 AM
There is probably another side to this, but the fact he was still in the can two years after a court ordered him released due to a lack of evidence of any criminal offense is pretty troubling.  If they can do it to him, they can do it to you, all it takes is enough demonization.
Title: Re: Dead Guantanamo Prisoner On Why He Gave Up on Life
Post by: Vagabond on September 16, 2012, 08:12:10 AM
Latif was a guy running around a warzone seeking out ways to harm American troops.  He wore no uniform and did not answer to any recognized chain of command.  Under the articles of the Geneva Convention, Latif was a spy and saboteur and not protected by the document even if he had been working for a country, which he was not.  He was subject to summary courts martial and execution if that is how we had decided to handle it.  This notion that he had to commit some sort of crime is ludicrous on it's face.  I'd have gladly handed him the rope to hang himself.
Title: Re: Dead Guantanamo Prisoner On Why He Gave Up on Life
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on September 16, 2012, 08:27:21 AM
Latif was a guy running around a warzone seeking out ways to harm American troops.  He wore no uniform and did not answer to any recognized chain of command.  Under the articles of the Geneva Convention, Latif was a spy and saboteur and not protected by the document even if he had been working for a country, which he was not.  He was subject to summary courts martial and execution if that is how we had decided to handle it.  This notion that he had to commit some sort of crime is ludicrous on it's face.  I'd have gladly handed him the rope to hang himself.

There's a little more to how the Geneva Conventions work on that, annoying as the process is, but assuming an Article III tribunal decided he was not a protected person, courts-martial don't really work that way.  A summary court-martial is basically a misdemeanor court; only a general court-martial or military commission can impose a death penalty, and that is subject to appeal to higher US courts, which is not something cooked up just recently.  Aside from all that, though, it doesn't address the issue of a US court ordering him released but still being canned two years afterward.  And death is not the automatic penalty for espionage, it's just the maximum possible penalty for it.
Title: Re: Dead Guantanamo Prisoner On Why He Gave Up on Life
Post by: Mr Mannn on September 16, 2012, 11:17:13 AM
No sympathy from me.
The religion of jihad put him there. He can deal with the consequences, and he did.
If he was released he would likely have been turned against US troops a 2nd time. 
Title: Re: Dead Guantanamo Prisoner On Why He Gave Up on Life
Post by: Chris_ on September 16, 2012, 11:40:09 AM
Good riddance.
Title: Re: Dead Guantanamo Prisoner On Why He Gave Up on Life
Post by: WinOne4TheGipper on September 16, 2012, 11:58:36 AM
 :sosad: