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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: thundley4 on September 11, 2012, 09:33:46 PM
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1monster (8,147 posts)
Today, at 8:45 a.m., the school PA system blared into life:
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"Would everyone please rise and observe a moment of silence for the fallen of 9/11."
After about 45 seconds, "Thank you. Please resume your classes."
All the kids in the classroom were eleven and twelve years old... At most they were about one year old at the time of the 9/11 attacks. They have no actual memories of the events or the emotions. For them, the existance of the Twin Towers is ancient history.
And I ask myself why are we still dong this? After eleven years, why are we still trying to keep alive the chaotic emotions of that day? Why force it on our kids who were too young to notice or who weren't even born yet? Were they asking school kids to rise and remember Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1946? 1951? I know they weren't in 1962.
At what point do we ease our grip on the tragedy and let go of the past? How can we more forward and onward if our feet are always draggng in the past?
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arcane1 (18,515 posts)
1. I wonder the same thing about all the rebroadcasts the networks do
How much longer do we have to re-live that horror? I'm pretty sure we'll "never forget" without all that.
upaloopa (435 posts)
3. 9/11 is stuck in our political hate fests.
Until we stop blaming it will go on IMHO.
Some dissent among the primitives.
barbtries (13,196 posts)
8. i wasn't born yet in 1941,
so i can't speak to the pearl harbor comparison. my daughter was killed in 2001, less than two months before 911, and to this day i will not work on July 19, the anniversary of her death.
i think it is appropriate to spend 45 seconds of this day remembering the victims. their loved ones should know they are not forgotten.
forthemiddle (49 posts)
10. bravo
I am so sorry about the death of your daughter, but like you I will never forget.
9/11 was my generations Pearl Harbor. For many it changed their lives forever.
If others choose not to recognize it, that is their prerogative, but it is only 11 years (not 70 like Pearl Harbor).
For gosh sakes, I read more sympathy on John Lennon's death anniversary, than I do here about 9/11.
Just because we remember 9/11 with reverence, does not mean we condone all our Country has done, in its name, since then.
Hey DUmmies how about telling Jesse Jackson, and Al Sharpton to get over it. Slavery was done and gone more than a mere 11 years ago.
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Speaking of black civil rights leaders. Do we really need a holiday just to remember one man, Dr. King, who died 40 years ago? :sarcasm:
Just using DUmmie logic there...
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How about we never forget what evil is capable of and we do what we must to stop it and remember those 3,000 or so innocent people that were murdered on 9/11. I am 100% certain that id someone busted down the door of your parents house and butchered them in a most vile way that you would spend years doing everything you can to remember them so how about you let us that care about what happened have our day OK?
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:fuelfire: We'll let go of 9-11, when you let go of the 2000 , 2004 elections! And trying to drag GWB, Cheney to the Hauge for war crimes!!
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At what point do we ease our grip on the tragedy and let go of the past?
At what point will they admit 19 muslims flew planes into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and a field in PA, after the passengers counterattacked?
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At what point will the religion of peace fully accomplish it's implied goal ?
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With that logic, you might as well get rid of history as a class and academic discipline altogether, as there's no point dwelling on things like the Enlightenment or WWII, right?
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I'm not going into a long diatribe, but I will say one thing; DUmmies...this song is for you. All for yuo, so pay attention.
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCPlFnTfxaA[/youtube]
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I don't know. At what point does the "peculiar institution", warred to death in 1865, stop afflicting the daily lives of persons born, say, after 1965?
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I don't know. At what point does the "peculiar institution", warred to death in 1865, stop afflicting the daily lives of persons born, say, after 1965?
When there's no more money or guilt to be milked out of said dead institution.
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At what point do we ease our grip on the tragedy and let go of the past?
Never.
How can we more forward and onward if our feet are always draggng in the past?
How can you avoid future mistakes if you don't continue to remember past mistakes/tragedies?
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"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"
George Santayana
Although this quote is somewhat out of context it seems to fit.
George Santayana (http://www.nowpublic.com/those-who-misquote-george-santayana-are-condemned-paraphrase-him)
Here's the link. My bad.
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Although this quote is somewhat out of context it seems to fit.
I don't see where that quote was derived from.
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I don't see where that quote was derived from.
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/George_Santayana
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Given the attacks going on in Egypt and Libya...and now our Embassy in Algiers has been given a heads up for possible violence...to say that 9/11 is in the past when the same radical Islam that killed 3,000 Americans 11 years ago...is killing and parading American dead through the streets RIGHT NOW!
This isn't old news or the past DUmmies...this is the here and now and no matter how you try to ignore it or spin it...it's real.
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Given the attacks going on in Egypt and Libya...and now our Embassy in Algiers has been given a heads up for possible violence...to say that 9/11 is in the past when the same radical Islam that killed 3,000 Americans 11 years ago...is killing and parading American dead through the streets RIGHT NOW!
This isn't old news or the past DUmmies...this is the here and now and no matter how you try to ignore it or spin it...it's real.
Also the Embassy in Tunisia.
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http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/George_Santayana
I am quite familiar with that particular quote. The use of the site quote feature (the bluing effect) led me to believe that someone in this thread had a post with the Santayana quote, and then was quoted, by Bondai. That is the one I didn't see, and still don't.
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NEVER will that day be forgotten. If you DUmpmonkey's want to live with your head in the sand thinking everybody in the world loves you, so be it.
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At what point do we ease our grip on the tragedy and let go of the past?
This is one of my pet peeves. 9/11 was NOT a tragedy. An earthquake is a tragedy. A hurricane is a tragedy. 9/11 was a deliberate attack, an act of pure evil. Calling it a "tragedy" diminishes it somehow, takes the focus off of the deliberate nature of the attack. While we must mourn the dead, we must not forget that they were killed by evil people with an evil intent. We owe them that much.
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At what point do we ease our grip on the tragedy and let go of the past?
How about when the problem disappears, or is obliterated from this God's good earth.
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How about when the problem disappears, or is obliterated from this God's good earth.
Would turning the problem into glass be an option?
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Would turning the problem into glass be an option?
For me? It's the absolute best option.
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1monster (8,147 posts)
At what point do we ease our grip on the tragedy and let go of the past? How can we more forward and onward if our feet are always draggng in the past?
When the islamofacist scum are no longer polluting the Earth.
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When the islamofacist scum are no longer polluting the Earth.
Turn 'em over to Corning Glass Works, then . . . :whistling:
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Turn 'em over to Corning Glass Works, then . . . :whistling:
The impurities in the silicon would be an insult to glass.
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The song in the video below gives my opinion better than I have could.
BTW, screw you DUmbass.
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpoudLoc8sY[/youtube]
If you don't want to listen to country music here are the "copied and pasted" lyrics:
I hear people saying we don't need this war
I say there's some things worth fighting for
What about our freedom and this piece of ground
We didn't get to keep 'em by backing down
They say we don't realize the mess we're getting in
Before you start your preaching let me ask you this my friend
Have you forgotten how it felt that day?
To see your homeland under fire
And her people blown away
Have you forgotten when those towers fell?
We had neighbors still inside going thru a living hell
And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout bin Laden
Have you forgotten?
They took all the footage off my T.V
Said it's too disturbing for you and me
It'll just breed anger that's what the experts say
If it was up to me I'd show it everyday
Some say this country's just out looking for a fight
After 9/11 man I'd have to say that's right
Have you forgotten how it felt that day?
To see your homeland under fire
And her people blown away
Have you forgotten when those towers fell?
We had neighbors still inside going thru a living hell
And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout bin Laden
Have you forgotten?
I've been there with the soldiers
Who've gone away to war
And you can bet that they remember
Just what they're fighting for
Have you forgotten how it felt that day?
To see your homeland under fire
And her people blown away
Have you forgotten when those towers fell?
We had neighbors still inside going thru a living hell
And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout bin Laden
Have you forgotten?
Have you forgotten all the people killed?
Some went down like heros in that Pennsylvania field
Have you forgotten about our Pentagon?
All the loved ones that we lost and those left to carry on
Don't you tell me not to worry about bin Laden
Have you forgotten?
Have you forgotten?
Have you forgotten?
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I am quite familiar with that particular quote. The use of the site quote feature (the bluing effect) led me to believe that someone in this thread had a post with the Santayana quote, and then was quoted, by Bondai. That is the one I didn't see, and still don't.
The link is in my original post. I went back and added it after you pointed out that it was missing. It is not a WIKI site. :hammer:
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I just have one word for the DUmmie's questin.
Never!
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<<still waiting for the primitives to get over the Hayes-Tilden controversy.
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<<still waiting for the primitives to get over the Hayes-Tilden controversy.
I thought you might say Teapot Dome. I think that's out in your neck of the woods anyway.
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I thought you might say Teapot Dome. I think that's out in your neck of the woods anyway.
Still a ways away from me, though.
On the other hand, it's practically in dutch508's and longview's back yards.
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We should forget it some time...a thousand years after the end of time suits me?
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At what point do we ease our grip on the tragedy and let go of the past? How can we more forward and onward if our feet are always dragging in the past?
Dear Dummy
BLUF: Never, the pain of the event will subside in time, however the lesson(s) gathered from such polarizing events must always be remembered, serving as a guide to ensure the path forward does not present similar hazards.
The Dummies feet are firmly rooted in the past because they never learn the lessons taught, they look only to affix blame and never seek the root cause and the remedy(s) required to preclude future occurrences. And they wonder why we mock them?