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Title: SurveyUSA poll: Obama ahead in Florida by 4% (Sept. 7-9)
Post by: pandric on September 11, 2012, 08:06:13 PM: I do not believe this. George Soros must be the pollster. Link (http://www.surveyusa.com/index.php/2012/09/11/in-florida-8-weeks-out-obama-4-points-atop-romney-nelson-11-points-atop-mack-voter-fraud-of-greater-concern-than-voter-suppression/).
Title: Re: SurveyUSA poll: Obama ahead in Florida by 4% (Sept. 7-9)
Post by: Mr Mannn on September 11, 2012, 08:50:25 PM: All the polls this weekend have been skewed by deliberately over sampling democrat voters and under sampling Republicans and independents.

Yawn. seen it before. Carter and Dukakis were both way ahead by this point and lost in landslides. This is what the media does when their side is losing. Propaganda. Nothing more.
Title: Re: SurveyUSA poll: Obama ahead in Florida by 4% (Sept. 7-9)
Post by: thundley4 on September 11, 2012, 08:52:00 PM: Quote from: Mr Mannn on September 11, 2012, 08:50:25 PM
All the polls this weekend have been skewed by deliberately over sampling democrat voters and under sampling Republicans and independents.

Yawn. seen it before. Carter and Dukakis were both way ahead by this point and lost in landslides. This is what the media does when their side is losing. Propaganda. Nothing more.

The oversampling seems to be done just to give Obama a post convention bounce.
Title: Re: SurveyUSA poll: Obama ahead in Florida by 4% (Sept. 7-9)
Post by: BigTex on September 11, 2012, 09:16:09 PM: yup +5 dem oversample so that really means Romney is up by 1% or so in this poll
Title: Re: Re: SurveyUSA poll: Obama ahead in Florida by 4% (Sept. 7-9)
Post by: DLR Pyro on September 11, 2012, 09:34:46 PM: Do they really think they can dampen conservative voter enthusiasm with these bogus polls?
Title: Re: Re: SurveyUSA poll: Obama ahead in Florida by 4% (Sept. 7-9)
Post by: Mr Mannn on September 11, 2012, 09:47:47 PM: Quote from: DLR Pyro on September 11, 2012, 09:34:46 PM
Do they really think they can dampen conservative voter enthusiasm with these bogus polls?
Yes. At least Pandric thinks so.
Title: Re: SurveyUSA poll: Obama ahead in Florida by 4% (Sept. 7-9)
Post by: obumazombie on September 12, 2012, 12:11:45 AM: False polls can backfire too. They can lull the party ahead into thinking that not all the party member's votes are even needed.
Title: Re: Re: SurveyUSA poll: Obama ahead in Florida by 4% (Sept. 7-9)
Post by: pandric on September 12, 2012, 01:49:23 PM: Quote from: Mr Mannn on September 11, 2012, 09:47:47 PM
Yes. At least Pandric thinks so.

I don't think conservative enthusiasm will be dampened. I actually believe that Obama's lead in the "very enthusiastic" column (as found by the WAPO/ABC poll) over Romney will decrease in the weeks to come, as Romney will crush Obama in the debates. http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/09/ready-to-bounce-obama-gets-a-lift-in-new-poll-the-note/
Title: Re: SurveyUSA poll: Obama ahead in Florida by 4% (Sept. 7-9)
Post by: J P Sousa on September 12, 2012, 02:13:43 PM: What polls do NOT tell you is who has the most motivated voters. 2010 anyone ?

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Title: Re: Re: SurveyUSA poll: Obama ahead in Florida by 4% (Sept. 7-9)
Post by: docstew on September 14, 2012, 12:04:01 PM: Quote from: DLR Pyro on September 11, 2012, 09:34:46 PM
Do they really think they can dampen conservative voter enthusiasm with these bogus polls?

If anything, it'll fire up the conservatives, who will know that it'll take every vote possible to unseat O the usurper.

In order to dampen conservative enthusiasm, the polls would have to show O up by 25 points or more. But for that to happen, conditions on the street would have to corroborate the polls (i.e. full employment, deficit trimmed, national debt shrinking or at least not rising, Middle East not tearing itself apart, etc)
Title: Re: SurveyUSA poll: Obama ahead in Florida by 4% (Sept. 7-9)
Post by: Splashdown on September 14, 2012, 12:46:54 PM: lol.

36 percent repub.

41 percent dem.

23 percent independent.
Title: Re: SurveyUSA poll: Obama ahead in Florida by 4% (Sept. 7-9)
Post by: Zeus on September 14, 2012, 12:50:19 PM: A 4% lead,within the margin of error doesn't bode well for an incumbent. Especially in a so called battleground state.
Title: Re: SurveyUSA poll: Obama ahead in Florida by 4% (Sept. 7-9)
Post by: docstew on September 14, 2012, 03:57:32 PM: Quote from: Zeus on September 14, 2012, 12:50:19 PM
A 4% lead,within the margin of error doesn't bode well for an incumbent. Especially in a so called battleground state.

Especially when the incumbents party is oversampled by 5%