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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Vagabond on September 10, 2012, 02:08:00 PM
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Sat Sep 8, 2012, 09:38 PM
MJkcj (182 posts)
my heart is breaking. my daughter is turning into a republican
I was raised by a feminist and am a proud liberal. I have a low tolerance for republicans who buy into the right wing hypocritical bullshit.
I have three beautiful intelligent daughters. One of them is living with a republican. I just saw her post something on facebook that made me realize I'm losing her.
my heart is breaking. anyone else go through this. how do you deal?
IOW, your daughter actually met a man that knows how to treat women and she realized her mom and grandma are mostly just man hating shrews.
Thrill (16,498 posts)
1. Sad
Knew it must have something to do with the guy she's with
Yeah, something about opening the door for her and paying for the date.
Response to MJkcj (Original post)
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 09:43 PM
benld74 (3,703 posts)
2. Heck I make jokes in the house to my daughters,,,I tell them
Marry a rich republican, don't do what mom did.
THen take him to the proverbial cleaners!!!!
I figure, holidays will be V-E-R-Y intersting to say the least,,,
Wow, just wow. Men are to be used for the money. Good job raising strong independent daughters.
Response to MJkcj (Original post)
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 09:43 PM
Angry Dragon (18,809 posts)
4. intervention and have her partner arrested for abuse
other than that, I got nothing
Sit down with her and have her tell you all the facts that have caused her to change
and then go on-line together to check the facts
Yeah, 'cause she wants to be as miserable as ma is, really.
Response to MJkcj (Original post)
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 09:43 PM
SheilaT (10,533 posts)
5. How much are you in contact with her these days?
I know that it is terribly common for women to alter their views and thinking to be more in line with the men in their lives (which makes me wonder what it's like for same-sex couples, but that's a different conversation).
Is she open to reason? Can you get her to understand that she really is not part of the 1% -- at least I'm guessing that she's not. Can you show her that the current Republican thinking is absolutely opposed to her human-ness?
I feel for you, even though my two adult sons have stayed true to the liberal/progressive/Democrats that their parents are.
1%, why do you have to be the 1% to want the government to leave you alone to try and succeed?
Response to MJkcj (Original post)
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 09:43 PM
Skittles (80,980 posts)
6. FIGHT, MJkcj!!!!
she's hearing too much from one side - straighten her out!!!!!!! ARM HER WITH THE FACTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, Yes! Pound the table! Oh, wait, that is what you do when you don't have facts.
Response to MJkcj (Original post)
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 09:45 PM
handmade34 (8,767 posts)
9. it will be ok
I too have a daughter who tends to date Republicans and is often taken in... I just keep talking to her and I know she hears... keep the lines of communication open with your daughter; you will not lose her forever
IOW, you are more than happy to sabotage your daughters relationships until you get a son-in-law that mooches off of her and doesn't like to work. Then you will be happy.
Response to MJkcj (Original post)
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 09:45 PM
gateley (58,419 posts)
10. ...
I've lost a few friends who were influenced by the man in their lives, and I'm a little concerned about my niece. I don't know what you can do to change their minds except don't discuss politics. And maybe not read their Facebook page? It's so painful to see someone you love become something you hate.
Hate? You idiots hate everything. You hate each other. There is no becoming something you hate, you hate them already. It may be only because you hate your neice because of her youth, none the less...
Response to MJkcj (Original post)
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 09:55 PM
Zorra (16,656 posts)
17. OMG, I'm so sorry - what a nightmare! I'd be crushed, too.
I actually told my boys that if they ever became republicans it would totally break my heart, and I would consider myself a failure as a parent.
Anyway, look at the bright side - the guy is a republican, so he must be a total schmuck. Hopefully they'll break up soon, the spell will be broken, and she'll come back to sanity.
Now boys, you must never ever think for yourselves or you will break mommies heart. In fact I think it would be better if you just stayed in the basement with videogames, porn ,and cheetoes.
30. She wants the top rate of tax to be 3.6% below where you want it to be?
She's not comfortable with the Individual Mandate for health insurance?
Her views on gay marriage are the the same as what Obama's views were a few weeks ago prior to him evolving on the issue?
I think love should conquer pretty much most of these differences of opinion. If it bothers you that much, just don't talk about politics.
A voice of sanity.
Response to MJkcj (Original post)
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 10:41 PM
appleannie1 (2,189 posts)
33. We rarely see one of our daughters and her ultra Christian neocon husband. It keeps peace in the
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family. He isn't even from this country yet knows all about what our forefather's wishes were. You just have to figure out a way to work with it and not let it totally tear the family apart.
That's because unlike you, he had to learn about our founding fathers and documents in enough detail to pass an exam for his citizenship. He couldn't just smoke pot and sleep through civics in high school.
Response to MJkcj (Original post)
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 10:42 PM
DrewFlorida (229 posts)
34. I post replies to all republican lies I see on FaceBook, as a way to educate my adult sons!
By refuting all of the right-wing misinformation, my two adult sons have an opportunity to see the flip side of the important issues and therefore those lies left unanswered don't become known as facts. My sons read everything I post although they are not always pleased that I post so much politics on FaceBook, I consider it collateral damage, I would rather have them annoyed with me than ignorant of the facts of life!
And your adult sons laugh at your posts and go on with their day.
35. Yes, I have a son who's starting a new business and has been feeling the ReThugs
can be better for his business. He announced 2 weeks ago he'll be voting ReThug. However after the Dem convention...I think he's reconsidered. I do hope and pray he'll vote Democratic. He's always been a Dem but his help are all those stupid to white men and he gets to listen to a fair share of Obama bashing. I can't believe they vote against their own interests. He watches Matthews and he's helped to prevent him from really going off the deep end. I'm going to throw him all the life lines I can muster. What I really need is some talking points on how Obama will be good for really small business. Sorry can't type now...watching the end of Saving Private Ryan.
So you're going to rant at your adult son for the next eight weeks. I bet he quits answering your phone calls.
Response to MJkcj (Original post)
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 10:48 PM
ann--- (156 posts)
38. I know how you feel
One of my sons who was a staunch "no party affiliation" kind of guy is buying into his wife's politics. Very sad. I love him so much but refuse to talk about the election - or any political issue - with him and his wife.
I'm not registered to any party but I have never, ever voted for a Republican in a presidential or Congressional race and I NEVER WILL.
So you're son found a woman that opens the door for and pays for the dates? Or is it that he likes that he doesn't have to worry what disease he is going to catch hanging around her?
42. my sister's boyfriend is turning her into one too
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She was a liberal democrat but he is a conservative republican and has influenced her so much that she now posts republican talking points on facebook and so on. So I'm familiar with the situation, it is just something you have to deal with, and I don't let politics get in the way of family relationships.
Another for conservative men. Ya'll should be wondering what it is that they have that liberal men are lacking.
It goes on and on with quite a few low post count posters building cred. I don't just wonder how they get along with family, I wonder how they get along with anybody.
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Oh FFS. My Mother is a liberal loonbag, and when the political discussions start getting dicey, I quit talking politics with her. I can't imagine refusing to speak to my Mother because of political differences....or stalking her internet postings... What the hell is WRONG with these people?
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Oh FFS. My Mother is a liberal loonbag, and when the political discussions start getting dicey, I quit talking politics with her. I can't imagine refusing to speak to my Mother because of political differences....or stalking her internet postings... What the hell is WRONG with these people?
They are as bad at parenting as they are anything else. Despite having idiots for parents, some of their children grow up and learn from their experiences and relationships and wind up somewhere not as rigidly leftist as their moonbat parents. ON DU, all relationships are subjected to politics, therefore they feel the need to "reach out" to their wayward independent chidren.
Edited due to the fact that I seemed to be inventing a new word.
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Who knew that liberal women wore aprons and kept their kids tied to it.
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Well, there is a lot of appeal in conservative men. Most liberal women can't understand this till they think with an open mind, then again open minded and liberal are somewhat of an oxymoron!
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Sat Sep 8, 2012, 09:38 PM
MJkcj (182 posts)
my heart is breaking. my daughter is turning into a republican
I was raised by a feminist and am a proud liberal. I have a low tolerance for republicans who buy into the right wing hypocritical bullshit.
I have three beautiful intelligent daughters. One of them is living with a republican. I just saw her post something on facebook that made me realize I'm losing her.
my heart is breaking. anyone else go through this. how do you deal?
Well, you said she was intelligent. What did you expect?
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Although I have a feeling my daughter is going to turn out to be a patchouli wearing hippy liberal some day, I laugh at this idiot in the here and now.
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It has been my experience that when a leftist mother talks bad about her daughter's boyfriend/husband for being a republican, said mother does not hear from her daughter very often nor make many visits to her.
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My sons girlfriend comes from a VERY liberal family. Girlfriend says she wants to adopt me and the wife. Girlfriend says, "He's the best boyfriend evah."
So far as I see it, it's just high school puppy-love but I can see her someday marrying a conservative guy.
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Kath1
61. Just hope for the best!
My conversion from go-along Republican wife to 100% progressive Democrat started with the Iraq war, which I totally hated. Went to the March For Women's Lives at the time, which really inspired me to go ahead and get divorced... be myself. Just hope she never marries this guy. Divorce is messy and expensive!
If you ever needed the definition of a kook...
At least the ex doesn't have to live with the nut anymore.
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Good freaking Lord, mothers of policemen worry everyday whether this is the day their sons and daughters have a run in with a psycho, mothers of firefighters worry that their children will get caught in a fire, 100's of us military mom's have son's & daughters deploying and these whiny bitches are upset because their family members, AFTER LIVING IN A LIBERAL HOUSEHOLD THE FIRST 18 YEARS OF THEIR LIVES, have a different political philosophy than them? And that makes them "lost"? So their sons and daughters have no redeeming qualities beyond their POV about politics?
Other people, including children of liberals, can't be swayed, coerced or brainwashed into buying into a different view. They already know the values of the left. As they talk to people of other points of view, they probably do the usual back and forth and then come to the conclusion that other people have a stronger argument and stronger proof that they're on the right side.
Family members aren't going to be monolithic thinkers. My oldest son was caught up in the 0bama hype and registered to vote for the first time in his life. I didn't chastise him. I did tell him I was proud of him for voting. Despite growing up in a conservative family with conservative values and political philosophy he's pretty liberal. But, he's a great father & husband, can fix absolutely anything from dishwashers to heavy equipment (he practiced on my appliances growing up) and is highly intelligent and very well read. It's not my business to get all maudlin and worry about him not thinking like the rest of us, he grew up knowing what we believe.
Cindie
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Although I have a feeling my daughter is going to turn out to be a patchouli wearing hippy liberal some day, I laugh at this idiot in the here and now.
My dad teases me about Romney not having a chance in November all the time, but I know that he loves me and he is really happy about what I am doing with my life. My grandmother tells my aunt that she has to vote Republican to cancel out my dad's vote. My family spreads across the political spectrum, but we all love and respect each other.
Neither of my parents would ever even consider the politics of a guy that I was dating, their concern is whether or not he treats me well (and my mom wants to know if we could have red haired grandchildren for her)
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It has been my experience that when a leftist mother talks bad about her daughter's boyfriend/husband for being a republican, said mother does not hear from her daughter very often nor make many visits to her.
My spouse is living proof of this. H5.
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Contraast this tripe to all the soul-wrenching appeals about how we simply MUST have "marriage equality" because love must be unfettered from the scornful eye of judgmental bigots.
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It has been my experience that when a leftist mother talks bad about her daughter's boyfriend/husband for being a republican, said mother does not hear from her daughter very often nor make many visits to her.
Speaking of which, has Pam talked to her daughter lately?
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What is wrong with these people that they see themselves as failures if their children turn out to have a mind of their own?
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What is wrong with these people that they see themselves as failures if their children turn out to have a mind of their own?
These are the same people that pat themselves on the back and praise themselves for being "open minded" and "tolerant of other views".
Hilarious.
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Response to MJkcj (Original post)
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 09:55 PM
Zorra (16,656 posts)
17. OMG, I'm so sorry - what a nightmare! I'd be crushed, too.
I actually told my boys that if they ever became republicans it would totally break my heart, and I would consider myself a failure as a parent.
Anyway, look at the bright side - the guy is a republican, so he must be a total schmuck. Hopefully they'll break up soon, the spell will be broken, and she'll come back to sanity.
You already are a failure as a parent if you really said that to your children.
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I have some family friends who are devout Christians. They have three gay sons and a daughter. They love them all equally and don't ask what their politics are.
You DUmmies are scum.
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Did Nuclear Unicorn get TSed for dating outside her faith?
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I have some family friends who are devout Christians. They have three gay sons and a daughter. They love them all equally and don't ask what their politics are.
You DUmmies are scum.
All 3 sons turned out gay? Damn man. What are the chances of that happening?
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I don't know but they all look the same too, despite being five years apart.
They're nice guys. I helped them install a new TV but that was the only time I met them. I've never met the daughter. Their father retired from IBM years ago.
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What is wrong with these people that they see themselves as failures if their children turn out to have a mind of their own?
In my spouses case, and I'll bet in most other cases, it is the exact opposite.
Spousal unit's mother questions about what is wrong with her, why did she change, and why is she so different from the rest of her family :blah::blah:.
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You have liberal in-laws? Poor guy.
My mother is the most liberal person in the family. My sister comes in second... the rest of us are in the back of the pack. :evil:
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Btw, seen the female moonbats and, as a man, I'd have to say I'd be swayed to become a conservative as well.
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For God's sake, shave your pits!!!
Ok, ok, something you actually recognize, For Gaia's sake, shave your pits!!!
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For God's sake, shave your pits!!!
Ok, ok, something you actually recognize, For Gaia's sake, shave your pits!!!
You might want to throw something about shaving their faces in there as well. I've seen some lib women sporting better mutton chops and chin hair than some guys can grow.
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My spouse is living proof of this. H5.
Mine too. All of her mother's children are very conservative. She asks Gia what she did wrong.
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I was born in the 'Sip. Conservative dad, mom, paternal cousins, uncles, aunts, grandparents...the ones left, hell, the only one that votes democrat is my maternal cousin, the crackhead who has never had a stable job, dropped out in 9th grade, and is a 43 y/o on disability because he gamed the system
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We tried. We ALL tried. We'll all be better off when he's DRT because he screwed over the wrong people. My mom hates when I say that, but I'm done. He's been given every chance you can think of. He's a drug-addicted thief. This f'n IDIOT inherited 65k when he turned 21 from his dad's death. Did he go to school? Well, of course not, he's an idiot. Did he spend the money getting certified in what he was good at, welding, or open his own business? Hell no. What did he do? Bought a mobile home, a used truck, and proceeded to PARTY HIS ASS off for a year. His friends came over and this f'er had steaks every weekend. 65k, cash, gone in a year. ...as were his friends.
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I came to the US with my mom, dad and brother when I was a little kid, we're all staunch conservatives as its the furthest thing away from Communism, something we wanted to escape. Thankfully my husband and most of his family are also quite conservative, but his sister is a self-proclaimed Marxist, something which offends and upsets me to no end.
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Response to MJkcj (Original post)
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 09:43 PM
Angry Dragon (18,809 posts)
4. intervention and have her partner arrested for abuse
Oh I would love to hear that phone call to the police. :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
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Great Caesars Ghost (225 posts)
156. Sad to say this but it's ultimatum time
she is either with the progressive cause or an enemy. If she chooses the latter then disown her.
marions ghost (10,892 posts)
145. Yes but these days
being conservative means being ultra-conservative (at least it is if you are voting). To parents it can feel like their child has joined a cult.
B Calm (16,589 posts)
132. Take her name off the inheritance
if Mitt wins. Then explain why you and daddy will need her share to survive, thanks to her voting republican.
JustAnotherGen (4,257 posts)
116. Do what my dad did
When he found out I voted for Pataki for Governor of NY - he made me sit at the children's table (I was 27 at the time) a few hours later for Thanksgiving dinner. that set me straight!
jerseygal (54 posts)
91. Your post reminds me of when my son met the woman he eventually married.
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He was bringing her with him to meet us and he called. He said in a very somber voice, "Mom. There's something you need to know about her." I heard the tone in his voice and I said, the worst possible thing I could think of.
"Oh no, she isn't a Republican, is she. I don't think I could bear that."
He began laughing and said, "Actually Mom, she is more left wing than you are."
"But what's the problem then?", I said.
He then told me she was from a different racial background. I said, "so what, as long as she isn't a Republican, we will get along fine."
Almost ten years later, she is the wonderful Mom of my two gorgeous grandchildren and my son is very happy.
apparently being a dem is serious business that will require you cut off all family ties if you associate with republicans
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she is either with the progressive cause or an enemy. If she chooses the latter then disown her.
Well, I thought I was beyond being shocked, but I guess I'm not. Speechless.
Caesar's ghost feels he can command a fellow DUmprat to consider her own flesh and blood, an "enemy." These people are evil.
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Response to MJkcj (Original post)
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 10:41 PM
appleannie1 (2,189 posts)
33. We rarely see one of our daughters and her ultra Christian neocon husband. It keeps peace in the
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family. He isn't even from this country yet knows all about what our forefather's wishes were. You just have to figure out a way to work with it and not let it totally tear the family apart.
That's because unlike you, he had to learn about our founding fathers and documents in enough detail to pass an exam for his citizenship. He couldn't just smoke pot and sleep through civics in high school.
Exactly. I would also bet the guy came from a currently or former Comm/Soc country. My sister and I are fortunate to be acquainted with several. They give liberals unremitting sh*t about their indoctrinated spew. Her administrative assistant is from Romania. Left in '90, if I recall. Whenever Democrats are discussed (and we do quite often) a look of absolute disgust pops up. Her eyes light up, like a kid at Christmas, whenever we talk about the military, constantly asking me about the Marine Corps.. :naughty:
I came to the US with my mom, dad and brother when I was a little kid, we're all staunch conservatives as its the furthest thing away from Communism, something we wanted to escape. Thankfully my husband and most of his family are also quite conservative, but his sister is a self-proclaimed Marxist, something which offends and upsets me to no end.
Sorry Rachel, I should have read this first. Confirmed! and H5
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I've told all three of my sons they are welcome to think what they like and have any views they want as long as "they" are willing to accept the consequences of both! :-)
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Well, I thought I was beyond being shocked, but I guess I'm not. Speechless.
Caesar's ghost feels he can command a fellow DUmprat to consider her own flesh and blood, an "enemy." These people are evil.
Nope. That is exactly what and who they are.
They. are. evil.
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... as long as "they" are willing to accept the consequences
That's the government's job. :whatever:
It's in the Constitution somewhere.
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I've told all three of my sons they are welcome to think what they like and have any views they want as long as "they" are willing to accept the consequences of both! :-)
:thumbs:
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If my sons brought home and married moonbats, I would accept them because I love my sons.
If my sons turned out gay, I would accept it because I love my sons.
If my sons turn into University of Texas fans, I will disown them. :-)
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If my sons turn into University of Texas fans, I will disown them. :-)
:cheersmate:
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Ummm, maybe this why she made her choice?
(http://www.strangemilitary.com/images/content/104352.jpg)
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Ummm, maybe this why she made her choice?
(http://www.strangemilitary.com/images/content/104352.jpg)
Get the cigarette out of that guy's mouth and I agree, this is coming from someone who grew up in the Bay Area. California is fantastic in regards to scenery, but it needs a massive demographic change to be a nice place to live. :banghead:
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Get the cigarette out of that guy's mouth and I agree, this is coming from someone who grew up in the Bay Area. California is fantastic in regards to scenery, but it needs a massive demographic change to be a nice place to live. :banghead:
Now why would you want to deny a Marine taking a break from combat, a smoke?
:???:
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My BIL is rabidly liberal but he's a really fun guy to be around. And he actually wears his "my nephew is a US Marine" t-shirt my son got him as a joke when Bush was president. None of us ever bring up politics around him. When he does go on a rant, we just let him spew and it's over. Only got into a political "debate" with him once, just after the boy king was elected (you'd think he would've been happy, but no). We'd had a pitcher of margarita's. Consequently, neither of us made a coherent argument. I do know it was Bush's fault.
My half sister is liberal, too. I love her but she is the typical welfare queen. I'm serious. She has a daughter and they have a decent apartment courtesy of the US taxpayer. She get's food stamps, welfare (for my niece) and is on permanent disability for some (nonexistent) injury she got in a car wreck about 30 years ago. She's worked between then and now and even occasionally cleans houses for money under the table. She's got tattoos everywhere, mostly words and stars. She looks like a graffiti wall. She get's her nails done every week. Amazingly enough, she never has any money. Other family members had to help her daughter get a laptop.
We have a few more nuts out there, my stepfather's political philosophy is "vote for the guy who promises to give you the most stuff", but most of us are normal.
Cindie
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Now why would you want to deny a Marine taking a break from combat, a smoke?
:???:
I'm not overly in favor of men who smoke, as I've had a family member die of lung cancer due to his smoking problem.
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I'm not overly in favor of men who smoke, as I've had a family member die of lung cancer due to his smoking problem.
How about dogs who smoke?
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Y_CvIxe4gBg/TN5y6rjTsdI/AAAAAAAAQpE/H-8mxscN434/s1600/dog_smoking_drinking.jpg)
(http://anatomy.wikispaces.com/file/view/Dog_with_Cigar.jpg/127687751/Dog_with_Cigar.jpg)
(http://cityrag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/dogs-smoking-cigars-2.jpg)
(http://la.indymedia.org/uploads/2005/03/stuffed_dog_w-cigar.jpg)
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Get the cigarette out of that guy's mouth and I agree, this is coming from someone who grew up in the Bay Area. California is fantastic in regards to scenery, but it needs a massive demographic change to be a nice place to live. :banghead:
Where in the Bay Area? I'm from San Jose.
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Where in the Bay Area? I'm from San Jose.
San Francisco is where I grew up.
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I'm not overly in favor of men who smoke, as I've had a family member die of lung cancer due to his smoking problem.
So did I, my papa who I loved dearly (it was the catalyst that got me involved in the whole Andy...never mind). I still contend that if you have bullets flying around, smoking is the least of your problems and if smoking helps them relieve some of their combat stress then let him smoke. Try walking a mile in his boots and all that.
Cindie
p.s. I love the Bay Area too. Lived in Sonoma County for many years on and off. Went to college there. Lived mostly Santa Rosa, but Petaluma & Healdsburg too. SF was a great place to party back then. Saw the Clash there. I had a good friend who had a huge crush on Dana Carvey (this was long before he was famous) and she used to drag around to different comedy clubs where he was appearing. And I was liberal & stupid at the time so partying was pretty much what we did. I've been to more gay day parades there than I'm willing to admit. If there's a shortage of Gold Lamé, check to see if it's close to the parade day. Same for tutus & chaps. Don't worry about the jeans though, they aren't real cowboys so don't need jeans under them.
Cindie
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The hatred and intolerance from the left leaves me no other conclusion than this will end violently. The left will start it, as they always do, bot this time the right will not show any willingness to compromise. It is long overdue.
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So did I, my papa who I loved dearly (it was the catalyst that got me involved in the whole Andy...never mind). I still contend that if you have bullets flying around, smoking is the least of your problems and if smoking helps them relieve some of their combat stress then let him smoke. Try walking a mile in his boots and all that.
Cindie
p.s. I love the Bay Area too. Lived in Sonoma County for many years on and off. Went to college there. Lived mostly Santa Rosa, but Petaluma & Healdsburg too. SF was a great place to party back then. Saw the Clash there. I had a good friend who had a huge crush on Dana Carvey (this was long before he was famous) and she used to drag around to different comedy clubs where he was appearing. And I was liberal & stupid at the time so partying was pretty much what we did. I've been to more gay day parades there than I'm willing to admit. If there's a shortage of Gold Lamé, check to see if it's close to the parade day. Same for tutus & chaps. Don't worry about the jeans though, they aren't real cowboys so don't need jeans under them.
Cindie
That's a good point, but for a life like a soldier's, I'd imagine smoking can't help in regards to fitness etc. If it really helps them, then by all means they can do as they wish.
I still love San Francisco, I quite like the artistic and bohemian culture that city has. I've never actually been to a pride parade, then again it isn't exactly at the top of my to do list. Its okay, we all make mistakes when we're young, as long as people realize the errors of their liberal ways its all good I suppose! Another good thing about San Francisco is that it has a sizable Vietnamese population, which certainly helped me to adjust to the US, whilst not feeling too far out of my comfort zone.
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"benld74 (3,703 posts)
2. Heck I make jokes in the house to my daughters,,,I tell them
Marry a rich republican, don't do what mom did.
THen take him to the proverbial cleaners!!!!
I figure, holidays will be V-E-R-Y intersting to say the least,,,"
Ah, blatantly encouraging your daughters to be gold- diggers. Typical liberal parenting.
:Response to MJkcj (Original post)
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 09:43 PM
Angry Dragon (18,809 posts)
4. intervention and have her partner arrested for abuse
other than that, I got nothing "
aka, have a good man framed/ wrongfully arrested for a horrible crime he did not commit, just because you don't like his politics. Also typical of a liberal.