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Current Events => Politics => Topic started by: pandric on September 09, 2012, 12:48:38 AM
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Here's a guide for those in Virginia who wish to vote for the most conservative candidate when it comes to the Economy. Below is how conservative Mitt Romney is, compared to Virgil Goode, Barack Obama and Gary Johnson.
The higher the economic score, the more conservative the candidate is:
Romney: 60%
Goode: 73%
Obama: 23%
Johnson: 80%
In conclusion, Gary Johnson is the most economically conservative candidate in the Virginia ballot, followed by Virgil Goode, Mitt Romney, then Obama.
The source is the website www.ontheissues.org. If you enter the candidate's name you will see a breakdown of his/her positions accompanied by a personal score (social issues) and economic score.
See Gary Johnson's breakdown in this link: http://www.ontheissues.org/VoteMatch/candidate_map.asp?a1=2&a2=2&a3=1&a4=3&a5=4&a6=4&a7=1&a8=4&a9=2&a10=1&a11=4&a12=5&a13=3&a14=5&a15=2&a16=1&a17=5&a18=5&a19=1&a20=1&i1=1&i2=1&i3=1&i4=1&p=85&e=80&t=25
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So who do you recommend I vote for?
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So who do you recommend I vote for?
Liberals would LOVE to split the Romney vote.
Besides has Pandric ever responded to a question? He's here to troll, not to participate.
Mods, you can ban Pandric whenever you are ready.
BS for your hit and run style of posting: you are a coward.
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The only people who seriously think Johnson is electable are Paulbots who think Romney is worse than O. IJS
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So who do you recommend I vote for?
I would say vote for the third most conservative one: Romney.
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I would say vote for the third most conservative one: Romney.
Why do you say that?
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Neither Johnson nor Goode can WIN! There is no way, no how! Whether or not you like or dislike Romney, voting for one of them is voting for Obama! Plain and simple! I understand Libertarians take issue with the Republican "establishment", but please put politics aside and look at the different futures each of the two (Obama and Romney) will bring to this country. Yes, there is the argument that Romney might just be a continuation of Bush, but look at Obama and what he is doing already. It's very evident that if he gets in again, this country is DESTROYED! And with his thirst for power, I highly suspect there will not be a 2016 election for another Libertarian (nor Republican) to have an opportunity to run in.
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I hope all these Paulbots and other non-Obama voters who would cast a vote for someone other than Romney will remember 3 words:
H Ross Perot
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I would say vote for the third most conservative one: Romney.
Then what was the point of your post?
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Then what was the point of your post?
Trying to be a cut-and-paste version of vesta.
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Trying to be a cut-and-paste version of vesta.
I'm pretty sure the point of his/her it's post isn't what he/she/it just told me.
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Why do you say that?
Because winning probability is more important than ideology.
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Because winning probability is more important than ideology.
Hi5 for answering. Discussion boards are for discussions. thank you.
since we are having a discussion, let me toss another question at you.
Why is winning more important than ideology in this election?
and you are free to answer with more than one sentence.
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Hi5 for answering. Discussion boards are for discussions. thank you.
since we are having a discussion, let me toss another question at you.
Why is winning more important than ideology in this election?
and you are free to answer with more than one sentence.
A very conservative candidate who will not win is bad for America because the liberal guy would stay in power and do bad things. A not so conservative candidate will put an end to the liberalism. To those for whom conservatism is the #1 priority, Johnson is #1, but that's not practical, in my view. Romney is the clear choice.
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Sorry, I still don't get it. The only mention of Mitt in the original post is to note that he is the least conservative candidate except O,bumma. The conclusion and two links talk about Johnson so, I presumed that you were promoting Johnson. I also note that Virginia is a tight race and critical for Mitt. A bunch of folks voting for Johnson might throw the state to the "O".
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Sorry, I still don't get it. The only mention of Mitt in the original post is to note that he is the least conservative candidate except O,bumma. The conclusion and two links talk about Johnson so, I presumed that you were promoting Johnson. I also note that Virginia is a tight race and critical for Mitt. A bunch of folks voting for Johnson might throw the state to the "O".
You say the conclusion talks about Johnson. Let's see if you chose to ignore other people mentioned in the conclusion:
In conclusion, Gary Johnson is the most economically conservative candidate in the Virginia ballot, followed by Virgil Goode, Mitt Romney, then Obama.
New conclusion: Your conclusion about my conclusion was cherry-picked.
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I hope all these Paulbots and other non-Obama voters who would cast a vote for someone other than Romney will remember 3 words:
H Ross Perot
I would agree with this wholeheartedly except for the candidacy of Ralph Nader and the green party. As the lib/dem/socialists had to bear a Sore/Loserman election, it kind of made up for Ross the Boss stinking up the results for conservatives in the Dole clinnochio election.
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You say the conclusion talks about Johnson. Let's see if you chose to ignore other people mentioned in the conclusion:
New conclusion: Your conclusion about my conclusion was cherry-picked.
I stand corrected. Your original post clearly states that Mitt is the only candidate to vote for. I can't imagine how I didn't see that. :???:
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A very conservative candidate who will not win is bad for America because the liberal guy would stay in power and do bad things. A not so conservative candidate will put an end to the liberalism. To those for whom conservatism is the #1 priority, Johnson is #1, but that's not practical, in my view. Romney is the clear choice.
fiscal conservatism... maybe. His fiscal record doesnt match his rhetoric, but he is an extreme social liberal.
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So Pandric. Are you going to vote for Romney?
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So Pandric. Are you going to vote for Romney?
Yup.
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Yup.
This isn't DU you don't have to vote for who we say to.
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I'm actually more impressed with Romney than I thought I would be. When he chose Ryan, I knew he was serious about fixing the economy. Libertarians are fine on fiscal policy but on other issues they fall way short. Romney has extensive experience in the private & public sector. He's started a SUCCESSFUL business from scratch, saved the Olympics (our economy on a MUCH smaller scale) and generously gives his OWN money and time, humbly...I didn't know any of the things mentioned at the convention. We need that.
His rapid response team is excellent!
And a smart businessman, one as successful as him, knows how to pick good people. He won't pick people whose qualifications for cabinet positions include:
tax cheats in charge of treasury;
atty. general who won't prosecute legitimate cases, sues to punish (can you say Gallup), wastes time suing states where he has no jurisdiction and loses (waste of OUR money) and hides info on a government program that gets our border agents killed;
someone managing homeland security who, despite being governor of a border state, supports La Raza instead of the American people & has done nothing to make the homeland "secure;
secretary of defense who was discharged from the Army for reasons unknown (I've looked), plans cuts that cause hardship to troops (my son had to buy his own equipment because that issued by the Marine Corps was substandard...on a Sgt's salary), whose suicides among the military are higher than they've ever been and who constantly warns Israel NOT to protect themselves.
And he won't push through legislation in the dead of night...breaking his promise of open hearings and allowing the American people to see the bill before it's passed...that's enforced by the IRS, causes the highest tax increase in the history of the entire planet and has caused small business hiring to almost completely stop.
There aren't enough people who want to vote for Johnson to make a difference.
Cindie
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Delila, thanks for bringing up the Gallup intimidation hypothesis, with which I agree. I am angry at HotAir's Ed Morrisey, who as a conservative should not be skeptical of the intimidation angle, as he is http://hotair.com/archives/2012/09/06/is-doj-suit-against-gallup-retaliation-for-bad-obama-poll-numbers/
I emailed Morrisey and asked him to stop doubting the intimidation hypothesis.
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Delila, thanks for bringing up the Gallup intimidation hypothesis, with which I agree. I am angry at HotAir's Ed Morrisey, who as a conservative should not be skeptical of the intimidation angle, as he is http://hotair.com/archives/2012/09/06/is-doj-suit-against-gallup-retaliation-for-bad-obama-poll-numbers/
I emailed Morrisey and asked him to stop doubting the intimidation hypothesis.
The butterfly effect.
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The butterfly effect.
Ahhhh, brings back memories of R&R in Japan.