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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on September 05, 2012, 04:16:28 PM
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MoonRiver (16,529 posts)
DNC changes Platform to recognize Jerusalem as capital of Israel.
Apparently Jewish groups were up in arms that this was taken out.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021276952
Now maybe Jay Carnival I mean Carney can answer the question next time he's asked. :-)
still_one (27,851 posts)
1. That sounds like the republicans pushing this
Then your leadership is pretty weak if those waskly wepublicans can make them do this.
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Damage control.
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They put the word "God" back too.
That'll make the DUmmies shit their panties.
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still_one (27,851 posts)
1. That sounds like the republicans pushing this
Then send those Jewish voters this way.
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Soon as the election is over they'll go back to pissing on Jerusalem.
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I find it nice to know that Republicans can dictate to the dems what planks make up their platform.
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This video has been saved and will be sent to all my Jewish associates both here in the US and in Israel.
It was added with a very questionable 2/3 voice majority. This is SOOOO FUNNY TO watch....
Note how CSPAN focuses on the Soup Nazi vociferous with his NO!! vote....talk about RACIST!
:yahoo: :rotf:
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cncbOEoQbOg&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
THE REAL QUESTION: Which network will even mention this on their broadcast tonight?? I bet MSNBC gets NO mentions and certainly no video coverage. Had this been a GOP convention disagreement, it would have been played all freakin' night long!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Then send those Jewish voters this way.
The Jewish money is strong in both parties but far, far greater in the communist democrat party of America. What is truly amazing is the Jewish enablers must know that this is what is in the Communists black hearts yet they will pull the lever for Komrade Obama. Like the black vote, I do not understand how the Jews can keep voting for a party that does nothing to promote their interests. In fact, the communists are destroying both segments but when it all boils off it is all about the money. The free money for welfare and the big money for Hollywood.
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It's killin' them:
I hate that we blinked. gateley 5:46 PM #1
Its truly disheartening.. choie 5:47 PM #2
I thought it was pretty ballsy in the first place, although politically not smart. But they gateley 5:52 PM #6
Ditto, ditto, ditto... SoapBox 5:56 PM #9
I think this move is to show respect to the Religious Left meow2u3 6:13 PM #23
Not Good humbled_opinion 5:48 PM #3
Agree... Philomena 6:38 PM #32
Necessary if GOP keeps insisting Obama is Muslim. McCamy Taylor 5:51 PM #4
The Jerusalem thing is necessary? Ken Burch 5:54 PM #8
WTF??? Did I Just Type This 5:52 PM #5
Ugh. CrispyQ 5:52 PM #7
To quote Gov. Patrick, "Grow a backbone." Faygo Kid 5:56 PM #10
yet another reason that the dems don't represent me any longer.... mike_c 5:59 PM #11
Agree. The majority of Dems are part of the problem on many, if not most, issues. byeya 6:09 PM #21
I'm also an atheist and I support the Palestinians. cpwm17 6:39 PM #35
Shameful pandering to the fundie RW, who will NEVER vote for Dems anyway. kestrel91316 5:59 PM #12
Disgusting Politicalboi 6:00 PM #13
This is bad... jimlup 6:00 PM #14
I KNOW! Isn't all the caving on health care, jobs bills, etc. bad enough? alp227 6:02 PM #15
You probably won't be pleased to know that truedelphi 6:39 PM #33
So the 12th Commandment really is "Thou shalt not speak ill of Israel" alp227 6:40 PM #36
They might as well change their symbol while they're at it KamaAina 6:03 PM #16
What? are we pro-life too???? Redford 6:04 PM #17
Gah, cowardess sakabatou 6:06 PM #18
Typical. Republicans complain, Dems roll over. limpyhobbler 6:07 PM #19
I guess that backbone Deval spoke of is made of cooked spaghetti. nt valerief 6:14 PM #25
Apparently so. This strikes me as extremely irresponsible. nt limpyhobbler 6:19 PM #29
It's a good start on peace prevention. limpyhobbler 6:08 PM #20
Um, they're doing this crap to please the Republicans????? valerief 6:12 PM #22
Cavers and Cowards harun 6:13 PM #24
Swear to Gawd, The Dems otohara 6:16 PM #26
Thank you sir, may I have another? Stryder 6:17 PM #27
Oh give me a damn break. eqfan592 6:18 PM #28
Damn Solly Mack 6:21 PM #30
I wonder if this bullshit faux outrage would have snowballed Blue_Tires 6:25 PM #31
New member here... OkieLib41 6:39 PM #34
I agree totally. WELCOME TO DU!!!! alp227 6:41 PM #37
AP source: Obama personally intervened to change Democrat platform language on Jerusalem, God Tx4obama 6:45 PM #38
Example of a more Center Right Dem Party YOHABLO 6:48 PM #39
This thread needs recs to get it to the top. CrispyQ 6:50 PM #40
Unfortunate. Scuba
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014219601
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truedelphi (25,018 posts)
33. You probably won't be pleased to know that
HR 4133 passed last spring. It states that Israel can look to the USA as the check book for anything they need related to their security. Only person in Congress who had a backbone to shout his anger abut this was Ron Paul.
For more:
http://original.antiwar.com/giraldi/2012/05/16/house-passes-stealth-legislation/
Of course, we were basically doing this anyway. Just look at how we offered up some 55 to 85 billions of dollars for weaponry to the UAE states and Israel in the thirteen months from late summer 2010 to October 2011. This bill just makes that sort of thing official.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014219601
OK. DUmp to go Ronulan. You heard it here first. :rotf:
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I watched that video on Fox....I loved the look on that guy's face when he was calling the vote. noooooo they aren't a godless party at all.
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A source informed on the deliberations told The Huffington Post that President Obama personally interevened to strengthen the language. Speaking with HuffPost, a senior Obama administration official also confirmed the president's involvement.
Huffpo (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/05/dnc-god-jerusalem-platform_n_1859200.html?1346881622&ncid=webmail1)
Obama knows that his standing with Jews and Christians is very weak. He is basically trying to kiss ass to appease the Jews.
This kind reminds me of how some DemonRat claimed Romney would be pandering to Hispanics if he named Rubio as his VP choice.
How can this be seen as anything but pandering to the Jews?
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I watched that video on Fox....I loved the look on that guy's face when he was calling the vote. noooooo they aren't a godless party at all.
They aren't very democratic either. There was no way that voice vote was 2/3s.
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Oh, they got the booing on video! :lmao:
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http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/2012/09/05/picture-snapped-and-emailed-to-me-by-a-colleague-from-the-clarification-process/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnewsinsider%2Fgretawire+%28Gretawire%29
There is a picture at the link that shows Villagarosa, or whatever his name is was reading the teleprompter when announcing that the change passed.
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/408262_3617107502777_673786500_n.jpg)
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They aren't very democratic either. There was no way that voice vote was 2/3s.
Precisely: the whole schmier is not to be trusted!
This is interesting given the attitude of a certain RINO named John Boehner, who might have been quoting previous politicians, but in any case he is supposed to have said:
"Nobody reads the platform."
So the Democrats do not believe this, obviously: and why?
Is it because the platform is so full of neo-Communist garbage that striking "God" O-) and "Jerusalem is the capital of Israel" :-* would be too much even for Dems?
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http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/2012/09/05/picture-snapped-and-emailed-to-me-by-a-colleague-from-the-clarification-process/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnewsinsider%2Fgretawire+%28Gretawire%29
There is a picture at the link that shows Villagarosa, or whatever his name is was reading the teleprompter when announcing that the change passed.
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/408262_3617107502777_673786500_n.jpg)
Beautiful find Thudley, BEAUTIFUL! I watched and the nays were at least 65% of the vote. Nothing democratic, nothing liberal to these people.
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All the pressure they were getting from the MSM, except MSNBC, got to them. FoxNews.com said tonight that obama even wanted God put back in, and Jerusalem to be recognized as the capital. I don't know whether to believe that. But in any case, the DNC caved under the pressure again.
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OK. DUmp to go Ronulan. You heard it here first. :rotf:
OK, if it keeps them out of here.
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http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/2012/09/05/picture-snapped-and-emailed-to-me-by-a-colleague-from-the-clarification-process/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnewsinsider%2Fgretawire+%28Gretawire%29
There is a picture at the link that shows Villagarosa, or whatever his name is was reading the teleprompter when announcing that the change passed.
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/408262_3617107502777_673786500_n.jpg)
:ohmy:
So, the vote was definitely 'fixed', and the result was pre- determined, AND the morons at the DNC were stupid enough to stick it on a teleprompter ?
I don't think an entire army of 'light workers' can undo this.. :rofl:
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All the pressure they were getting from the MSM, except MSNBC, got to them. FoxNews.com said tonight that obama even wanted God put back in, and Jerusalem to be recognized as the capital. I don't know whether to believe that. But in any case, the DNC caved under the pressure again.
This is a win win situation when you think about it. IF it does rain Sandy Obama will be all washed up. Think about that for a graphic take away. I'm melting, I'm melting. :rotf:
(http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/HkxxdpEshk1gu0sT4jqmww--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD0xMDI0O3E9ODU7dz0xNTM2/http://l.yimg.com/os/152/2012/09/05/BarryFalls2-jpg_213747.jpg)
Matthew 7:24-27
New International Version (NIV)
The Wise and Foolish Builders
24 “Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25 The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall, because it had its foundation on the rock. 26 But everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. 27 The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell with a great crash.â€
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This is a win win situation when you think about it. IF it does rain Sandy Obama will be all washed up.
Those teeth are frightening.
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Whatever they did after the fact, the DNC is telegraphing some very interesting consequences of a second 0bama term.
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CNN's Anderson Cooper Says DNC Chair Exists In An Alternate Universe
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzylMpPC3PQ[/youtube]
CNN's Pannel of Anderson Cooper, John King, Gloria Borger and others take apart Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz's untrue answers about the Democratic platform (September 5, 2012).
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(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/408262_3617107502777_673786500_n.jpg)
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Film/Pix/pictures/2010/12/15/1292425425177/Young-Frankenstein-007.jpg)
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*snicker*
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They probably made the prompter up ahead of time because they were expecting the whole place to erupt with an astounding yes! As we can see, it didn't happen that way. Liberals are so stupid.
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Hey Dummies. All your platforms are belong to us! :-)
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This is a win win situation when you think about it. IF it does rain Sandy Obama will be all washed up. Think about that for a graphic take away. I'm melting, I'm melting. :rotf:
(http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/HkxxdpEshk1gu0sT4jqmww--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD0xMDI0O3E9ODU7dz0xNTM2/http://l.yimg.com/os/152/2012/09/05/BarryFalls2-jpg_213747.jpg)
Maybe if we all click our heels three times, we will go back to a normal world.
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Look where the Soup Nazi ended up.
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff68/kayaktn/dnc2012drudgereport.png)
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Look where the Soup Nazi ended up.
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff68/kayaktn/dnc2012drudgereport.png)
I think he was booing the Jerusalem thing. Woman next to him was holding a sign that said Srab-American.
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I think he was booing the Jerusalem thing. Woman next to him was holding a sign that said Srab-American.
I figured she was his wife. She doesn't look "Arab" to me, but he does.
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Eye gor.
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Then your leadership is pretty weak if those waskly wepublicans can make them do this.
Yeah. One minute, they've got the ReTHUGlicans on the run and now, they're reacting to whatever they say.
I know (D)Ullards it's..........the Tea Party!!! BAAAAAAHH!! :panic:
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FoxNews.com said tonight that obama even wanted God put back in, and Jerusalem to be recognized as the capital. I don't know whether to believe that. But in any case, the DNC caved under the pressure again.
Word is, he didn't. Saw the article somewhere. No link.
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Word is, he didn't. Saw the article somewhere. No link.
According to Politico, he signed off on the original wording, then argued to put it back in (probably had some really shitty internals to back him up):
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/80801.html
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Even the LA mayor knew it wasn't 2/3rds.
What got me was the woman after the 2nd vote when the mayor couldn't decide what to do, she says to him "You got to rule it, and then you gotta let them do what they're gonna do." IOW, quit hesitating, read the teleprompter, and then everyone shut up and deal with it.
Typical way the Dems rule. The primitives should be happy when things like this are forced upon the delegates for their own good.
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Even the LA mayor knew it wasn't 2/3rds.
What got me was the woman after the 2nd vote when the mayor couldn't decide what to do, she says to him "You got to rule it, and then you gotta let them do what they're gonna do." IOW, quit hesitating, read the teleprompter, and then everyone shut up and deal with it.
Typical way the Dems rule. The primitives should be happy when things like this are forced upon the delegates for their own good.
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I don't think the mayor wanted to rule it.
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eqfan592 (4,531 posts)
28. Oh give me a damn break.
What happened to growing a backbone?????????
truedelphi (25,023 posts)
48. i guess God didn't
Bother to give the Dem leadership one. (Not even one!) Though he seems to have handed out plenty to the Republicans.
I'm going to answer that for you DUmmies. If you have no morals or other things you stand for, then you stand for nothing. DUmmies just go with whatever is the fancy saying/slogan of the day, therefore you never stand for what you believe in. Take Skin's Island for example, it's a huge echo chamber devoid of honest debate. If any of the minions step out of line, they are either tombstoned or beaten into submission.
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I don't think the mayor wanted to rule it.
Villaraigosa gave the Occupy goons free reign to crap all over his city until they started using city hall as an open-air toilet. The man isn't fit to hold elected office.
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http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/2012/09/05/picture-snapped-and-emailed-to-me-by-a-colleague-from-the-clarification-process/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnewsinsider%2Fgretawire+%28Gretawire%29
There is a picture at the link that shows Villagarosa, or whatever his name is was reading the teleprompter when announcing that the change passed.
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/408262_3617107502777_673786500_n.jpg)
Hilarious. Unfortunately that is what happens with the pro forma, illusion-of-democracy (A very poorly-maintained illusion in this case) platform votes all the time, this one just got the spotlight because it was a stupidity that could have so easily been avoided.
Many years ago I agreed to go along to a state convention to help out a Dem guy I worked with in a Midwestern County Prosecutor's office, as he couldn't scrape up enough real Dems who were free to go in order to fill the seats he had available. There was a platform vote on gun control, which was clearly refused in the voice vote, but of course it was deemed passed anyway. I believe at the end they also did a voice vote (Simple majority and the chair's call) to deem the entire platform 'Unanimously' passed.
Both then and now, the platform vote was as much a cruel caricature of democracy in action as the Nazi plebiscite vote after the Austrian Anschluss in 1938.
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According to Politico, he signed off on the original wording, then argued to put it back in (probably had some really shitty internals to back him up):
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/80801.html
What if, hypothetically of course, you had this really big stadium you wanted to fill with black christians, do you suppose it would make a difference? Or, do black christians not believe in God; but, do believe in gay marriage and abortion.
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I don't think the mayor wanted to rule it.
Oh no. He's that clueless.
Case in point--he's taken the CA Bar exam and failed it FOUR times.
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Oh no. He's that clueless.
Case in point--he's taken the CA Bar exam and failed it FOUR times.
From what I heard, that common these days. I know people who took that test. They said they wanted to kill themselves after it was done; it was that hard (The one told me that if he knew the test was going to be that hard, he would never have majored in law). And the thing that sucks is when you have to take it for multiple states.
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You know Rush's monologue is going to be hysterical.
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You know Rush's monologue is going to be hysterical.
Sad :bawl: and kind of how weird life has become. Call me anything but a sewing machine but I just do not understand all the crap religion causes people.
Being raised in a Congregational Church, the lessons taught went back to the Old Testament. So I began to question why if Jesus came to change the old order, why the Old Testament was ever used as it advocated much that Jesus taught against.
I was not an easy kid to be around when I heard things that contradicted my teachings or curiosity.
So most of my life I have heard the Toast of Next year Jerusalem---- and watched as adults got into a hissie fit when the birth right of a Jew, Jesus was questioned. I had an ageing Polish in law spit on me for when she made anti Jewish remarks and tell her , Mary and Joseph were Jews. Old lady like to have had a stroke, but what to say.
Far as I know Jerusalem it their has been the capital of Judism and on to the christian faith for thousands of years. as Christians for us to turn our backs on thousand of years of history and not to support the faith of Jesus and family is to become ------Non Christians. If we do not support the faith of our fathers what do we become?
So now the Democrats are giving praise to God, if there is a sacrilege in religion this is the worse I have ever seen.
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Oh no. He's that clueless.
Case in point--he's taken the CA Bar exam and failed it FOUR times.
Oh Snap. I wonder how many times it took our fearless leader?
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Sad :bawl: and kind of how weird life has become. Call me anything but a sewing machine but I just do not understand all the crap religion causes people.
Being raised in a Congregational Church, the lessons taught went back to the Old Testament. So I began to question why if Jesus came to change the old order, why the Old Testament was ever used as it advocated much that Jesus taught against.
I was not an easy kid to be around when I heard things that contradicted my teachings or curiosity.
So most of my life I have heard the Toast of Next year Jerusalem---- and watched as adults got into a hissie fit when the birth right of a Jew, Jesus was questioned. I had an ageing Polish in law spit on me for when she made anti Jewish remarks and tell her , Mary and Joseph were Jews. Old lady like to have had a stroke, but what to say.
Far as I know Jerusalem it their has been the capital of Judism and on to the christian faith for thousands of years. as Christians for us to turn our backs on thousand of years of history and not to support the faith of Jesus and family is to become ------Non Christians. If we do not support the faith of our fathers what do we become?
So now the Democrats are giving praise to God, if there is a sacrilege in religion this is the worse I have ever seen.
So you must be familiar with the story of Peter and the cock crowing?
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNQuT2worqc&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]
Matthew 26:75
Suddenly, Jesus' words flashed through Peter's mind: "Before the rooster crows, you will deny three times that you even know me." And he went away, weeping bitterly.
then too you probably also heard this
Matthew 10:33
But whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father in heaven.