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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on August 31, 2012, 10:13:06 PM
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apnu (4,796 posts)
There's a lot of demoralized Republicans in my office today.
I work in a place that is easily 90% Republican and 70% hard right conservative. They are all fiscal conservatives and chicken hawks -- but they don't care for nor understand social conservative issues.
I'm one of the only 'out' liberals in the office willing to discuss and even debate issues. So I hear a lot of chatter both directed at me, but more often, amongst themselves.
Today, they are demoralized about Romney. They recognize how poorly run Romney's campaign is. They gnash their teeth at the lack of policy in Romney's 'plans' They want to have this election be a referendum on Obama's policies and leadership, but Romney's giving them nothing to hang on to. One guy has been sending pissed off emails to the Romney campaign demanding actual policy almost daily.
They are also fed up with partisan bickering and the polarization in Washington. One manager said to me today: "we've forgotten how to compromise, we can't run the country like this" And then he went off on the Republican congress over that. He also went on to gripe about the mendacity of Republicans, railed about 'fact checkers' for a bit and when I pointed out how sad our culture is that we need fact checkers, that our media fails to fact check a speech, he nodded and said "can you imagine what would happen to a politician 30 years ago if he was caught in a lie? He'd be destroyed! Now Ryan can lie and no one cares!"
They're voting Romney, they can't pull the lever for Obama -- they're too far away form the President because of a steady diet of Fox News, Drudge and the National Review. However, they have zero enthusiasm for this GOP ticket. That's my main point here. They want to know where Romney stands on anything, they also want to know what, exactly, they plan to do with the markets if elected. They're pissed off at the lack of substance and are sick of the platitudes and red meat being hurled at them.
Much has been made about Obama's 'enthusiasm gap' from his 2008 highs, but I'm seeing amongst my small and very localized sample set, a significant enthusiasm gap for the whole Republican party amongst the fiscal conservatives.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/125182335
The stories they have to tell themselves to keep their hopes up.
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What I'm finding funny is they keep claiming that Romney isn't offering anything specific when 0bama himself has never offered anything specific. He won the white house merely on chanting hope and change. Now that he has almost 4 years under his belt he is running on the republicans are bad, and nothing about what he is going to do.
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It's no wonder O'bummer is out raising Mitt & shooting ahead in the polls. What with Conservatives so demoralized & all. :mental:
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This one conservative that S/H/It says is firing off hate emails demanding actual issues can do that, but not go to Romney's website, click on "issues", then click on the particular issue they want to see his stance on?
These bouncys are pathetic. This one is just so transparently false it's sad. They could at least add one modicum of truth to them. My cat could tell this one was fake.
All the Republicans I know who watched the convention range from ecstatic to cautiously optimistic.
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DUmmies whistling past the graveyard.
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:bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy:
They seriously aren't trying anymore. It must be because they know obama is going to lose.
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This one conservative that S/H/It says is firing off hate emails demanding actual issues can do that, but not go to Romney's website, click on "issues", then click on the particular issue they want to see his stance on?
These bouncys are pathetic. This one is just so transparently false it's sad. They could at least add one modicum of truth to them. My cat could tell this one was fake.
All the Republicans I know who watched the convention range from ecstatic to cautiously optimistic.
The wish-casting in this one is epic.
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Another potential best selling fiction author wasting his talents at DU. :whatever:
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I'm a conservative who never liked Romney.
But I'm not demoralized at all. I LOVED the convention. My blood got boiling, and I gladly contributed to the campaign. The convention made ready to rumble!
Romney gained a lot of respect in my eyes by not giving into democrat demands over the tax thing, and by fighting back against the lies. Not being a limp McCain is what I wanted.
Sure, I'm not getting a conservative with Romney...but I'm not getting a Hugo Chavez either. Further Paul Ryan is set up for a solid conservative presidency in the future.
conservatism is not the issue here. Obama is poised to destroy America. THAT is what is going to be decided in this election. We will likely win, but the democrat agenda is now exposed: they want a communist state. That agenda will be a part of all future elections.
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I'm a conservative who never liked Romney.
But I'm not demoralized at all. I LOVED the convention. My blood got boiling, and I gladly contributed to the campaign. The convention made ready to rumble!
Romney gained a lot of respect in my eyes by not giving into democrat demands over the tax thing, and by fighting back against the lies. Not being a limp McCain is what I wanted.
Sure, I'm not getting a conservative with Romney...but I'm not getting a Hugo Chavez either. Further Paul Ryan is set up for a solid conservative presidency in the future.
conservatism is not the issue here. Obama is poised to destroy America. THAT is what is going to be decided in this election. We will likely win, but the democrat agenda is now exposed: they want a communist state. That agenda will be a part of all future elections.
I didn't like Romney at the start. The more DU and their ilk attached him, the more he sort of grew on me. I only watched the last day of the convention, including Clint's speech, and came away from it even more willing to vote for Romney.
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Good grief. More lies of desperation.
Keep thinking that DUmpmonkeys. :rotf:
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Now Ryan can lie and no one cares!
:o :o
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/083012-624188-so-called-fact-checks-disguise-media-liberal-agenda.htm
If media "fact checkers" are just impartial guardians of the truth, how come they got their own facts wrong about Paul Ryan's speech, and did so in a way that helped President Obama's re-election effort?
Case in point was the rush of "fact check" stories claiming Ryan misled when he talked about a shuttered auto plant in his home state.
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Also, the plant didn't close in December 2008. It was still producing cars until April 2009.
An AP "fact check" also claimed that "the plant halted production in December 2008" even though the AP itself reported in April 2009 that the plant was only then "closing for good."
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Media fact-checkers also complained about Ryan's charge that Obama is cutting $716 billion from Medicare to fund ObamaCare. Not true, they said.
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In a November 2009 interview with ABC News, reporter Jake Tapper said to Obama that "one-third of the funding comes from cuts to Medicare," to which Obama's response was: "Right."
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The problem is that the mainstream press is now abusing the "fact check" label, using it to more aggressively push a liberal agenda without feeling the need to provide any balance whatsoever. And, as the reaction to the Ryan speech shows, they are now blatantly using it to provide air support for Obama.
His bouncy fails horribly. :rotf:
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I know LOTS of republicans. I know none who are demoralized. Most are coming around to actually LIKE Romney.
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I know LOTS of republicans. I know none who are demoralized. Most are coming around to actually LIKE Romney.
I saw Romney in a campaign stop in Cincinatti this morning (on FNC). He was fired up. If he keeps that up, this is going to be a fun campaign to watch.
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Nice.
I think I'm going to put up a Paul Ryan picture in my cubicle so I can find all of the liberals in my office.
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I saw Romney in a campaign stop in Cincinnati this morning (on FNC). He was fired up. If he keeps that up, this is going to be a fun campaign to watch.
Glad to hear it! Interesting that the Wall Street Journal has an editorial in the weekend edition warning that Romney must become more specific about his agenda, that the vagueness of the convention speeches must give way to something meatier.
An excerpt:
Perhaps this is how it will all turn out, but someone should point out that this policy-free zone is risky in its own way. By failing to explain his own agenda, Mr. Romney has left an opening for Democrats and Mr. Obama to define it instead. We wouldn't be surprised to see them pivot away from personal attacks on Mr. Romney and Bain next week and devote all of their time to assailing his policies...They'll say he wants to favor his rich friends and political donors, that he'll loot the middle class and brutalize the poor with spending cuts on everything from disaster relief (see Louisiana) to Pell grants to food stamps.
Meanwhile, Mr. Obama will explain in glorious detail all of the "investments" he wants to make in schools, roads, college tuition, medical research, electric cars—which Mr. Romney's "savage" cuts would take away.
These Democratic attacks will be caricatures or worse. But they will have a blank canvass on which to paint because Mr. Romney did so little to explain what he would do
See:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444914904577623702131613774.html (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444914904577623702131613774.html)
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Glad to hear it! Interesting that the Wall Street Journal has an editorial in the weekend edition warning that Romney must become more specific about his agenda, that the vagueness of the convention speeches must give way to something meatier.
An excerpt:
See:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444914904577623702131613774.html (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444914904577623702131613774.html)
You must be kidding. Someone in the media criticizing a Republican??? No way!! :sarcasm:
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Not a single bit of reality in that bouncy.
Can't wait to see how big the gap in funding for R2 and the RNC versus Mr. Empty Chair and the communists this month is. I'm going to go with 50-60% gap.
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I take exception to the OP's assertion owebuma got elected only on the 2 chants...
hope
change
He also had yes we canny, and owe bum a
Plus, his minions have cleverly combined some single word chants, for example hopey change, changey hope.
They are so creative.