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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: MoshMasterD on May 24, 2008, 12:33:22 PM
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tama (259 posts) Sat May-24-08 01:24 PM
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Progressives vs. anarco-primitivists
Kissinger (/Cheney/Clinton/Obama/McCain) to protestors:
- If you want progress, energy slaves and all that good stuff, Empire is the only way to rob the resources that our progress requires.
Progressives:
- OK, in the name of progress, then let's have Empire, we need our good stuff and cant live without our energy slaves. Let's go cut last forests and and drill the last drop of oil, but can we pretend it's not our fault and plead ignorance, please?
"Primitivist" hippies:
- No thanks, we'll rather learn to live without all the "good stuff" and energy slaves provided by technocracy. Let's go start an ecovillage, permaculture gardening with sun power sounds like gas!
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Is that some sort of geek kind of joke? I don't get it.
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Is that some sort of geek kind of joke? I don't get it.
I thought it was just me...
Maybe Frank will stop by and let us in on it.
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Well, at least we won't have to worry about ol' Tama writing a manifesto that will sweep the world...
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Is that some sort of geek kind of joke? I don't get it.
I thought it was just me...
Maybe Frank will stop by and let us in on it.
It's the "primitivist" that made me dedicate this Dummie post to him.
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Well, at least we won't have to worry about ol' Tama writing a manifesto that will sweep the world...
No, I think we'll all have to wait agog to see what Gore does to "assist."
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I thought this was going to be a thread about bowel movements.
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Mosh, sir, there's a big difference between, for example, the natives of the South Seas, and hippies.
The natives of the South Seas live in an environment hostile to their well-being; places fraught with all sorts of perils and dangers. To survive, they must be, and do, certain things that appear odd or uncivilized or uncouth to us.
But the bottom line is, those things help them to survive the environment.
And for that reason, I have nothing but the utmost admiration and respect for the natives of the South Seas (or Papua-New Guinea, or deepest Africa or the jungles of the Amazon, for that matter)--they manage to survive in an environment where most of the rest of us wouldn't last more than an hour, or the primitives on Skins's island more than five minutes.
The primitives on Skins's island on the other hand live in an environment hospitable, or at least tolerant, of their presence. By the sheer goodness of decent and civilized people, the primitives are allowed to be "free spirits" (but on our dime; look at the subway cat), disrespectful of those who give them support and sustenance (usually social services programs).
And the primitives have an odd notion of primitivity; you might recall, sir, the primitive who left the urban life to move to the wilds of New Mexico, ostensibly scorning modern society. But he took his motor vehicle, his television, his computer, his internet connection, his CD-player, his pharmaceuticals, with him.
And probably all the dough his ageing parents left, or are leaving, him.
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More delusional babble divorced from the real world.
It is what is expected from the primitives.