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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: JakeStyle on August 16, 2012, 02:39:22 AM
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nadinbrzezinski (107,748 posts)
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On climactic change, (this is purely anecdotal), and perhaps the worm is turning
After I wrote the story for the paper, I shared the 226 or so photos I took at the fire line today... (ok about 200, the other 20 or so were of other places in the grand tour, like shelters). Anyhow, a lady who is from Imperial County (on the desert side of the mountains) was telling me of the really weird weather they are having. Things like oh flash floods and winds, in the desert, at this time of year.
So we started talking about climate change, and I mentioned that Mexico, with a pretty right wing president. accepts this as a reality. The reason... it became undeniable that something odd was going on about fifteen years ago. Now it is becoming undeniable in the US.
She started asking questions, and filled her on as best as I could... remarkably, she said, that after so many years of thinking this was made up, this odd weather was making her rethink this. Yes, educated her on the difference between weather and trends, and the problem with a climactic increase of 1 degree Fahrenheit in the atmosphere and that much more energy, and why storms seem more extreme and alive.
But yup. fires, floods and storms are really making people take a second look. This is purely anecdotal, but makes me wonder if this is one person, or more? Time, as they say, will tell.
She is so ******* intelligent that she can't contain it.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021141055
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We have thousands of years of recorded history that speaks of droughts and floods, but TODAY these same weather patterns are completely due to human pollution, and can be fixed by paying higher energy costs and buying into Al Gore's trade-off business. They really do think most Americans are stupid. ::)
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nadinbrzezinski (107,748 posts)
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On climactic change, (this is purely anecdotal), and perhaps the worm is turning
After I wrote the story for the paper, I shared the 226 or so photos I took at the fire line today... (ok about 200, the other 20 or so were of other places in the grand tour, like shelters). Anyhow, a lady who is from Imperial County (on the desert side of the mountains) was telling me of the really weird weather they are having. Things like oh flash floods and winds, in the desert, at this time of year.
So we started talking about climate change, and I mentioned that Mexico, with a pretty right wing president. accepts this as a reality. The reason... it became undeniable that something odd was going on about fifteen years ago. Now it is becoming undeniable in the US.
She started asking questions, and filled her on as best as I could... remarkably, she said, that after so many years of thinking this was made up, this odd weather was making her rethink this. Yes, educated her on the difference between weather and trends, and the problem with a climactic increase of 1 degree Fahrenheit in the atmosphere and that much more energy, and why storms seem more extreme and alive.
But yup. fires, floods and storms are really making people take a second look. This is purely anecdotal, but makes me wonder if this is one person, or more? Time, as they say, will tell.
If you're going to post a bunch of BS pretending that you're an expert on something you should at least get the word right. She has been told numerous times that the word is NOT "climactic", but she continues to use it. She's not just dumber than a cow turd. She's willfully dumber than a cow turd.
Things like oh flash floods and winds, in the desert, at this time of year
And why does she have to add "oh" to every post? Does she think it makes her sound folksy or wiser?
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Nads, most people believe in climate change - there have been times where the planet has been all jungle, and others where it has been all ice.
The thing most of us don't believe in is that mankind is responsible. Unless you have proof that T-Rex caused mass extinction by driving around the countryside recklessly in their dinosaur sized Hummers, and that dinosaurs clear-cut massive amounts of rainforest to raise giant herds of brontosaurus for food your theory has no foundation in reality.
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If you're going to post a bunch of BS pretending that you're an expert on something you should at least get the word right. She has been told numerous times that the word is NOT "climactic", but she continues to use it. She's not just dumber than a cow turd. She's willfully dumber than a cow turd.
And why does she have to add "oh" to every post? Does she think it makes her sound folksy or wiser?
I have seen many suggestions to her that she is not using 'climactic' correctly, some of them by DUmmies who might be listed among her sycophant list but are genuinely trying to be helpful. Doesn't do any good.
But here's zappaman to give it another go: zappaman (5,763 posts)
6. "climactic change"?
Wtf is that?
And wildfires in California....in summer...after a dry winter.
When you "educated her on the difference between weather and trends", did you explain that wildfires in California...in summer...after a dry winter is not unusual.
In any event, and I am series as a heart attack here, thank you for educating all of us here on DU daily.
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Noah had to build an ark due to CFCs. :lmao:
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nadinbrzezinski (107,748 posts)
it became undeniable that something odd was going on about fifteen years ago.
Who was in charge 15 years ago?
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nadinbrzezinski (107,748 posts)
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On climactic change, (this is purely anecdotal), and perhaps the worm is turning
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, when the Great Barack Drought of '12 got underway about the beginning of May, it was predicted it might be as bad as the drought of 1988, one of those usual standard run-of-the-mill cyclical droughts.
By mid-May, a couple of weeks later, it was predicted that oops, it might be as bad as the drought of 1966, one of those usual standard run-of-the-mill cyclical droughts, although worse, and over a long cycle.
In early June, it was re-predicted that this one might be as bad as the Grandfather of all droughts, the big one of 1956.
At the end of July, it was announced that the Great Barack Drought of '12 had topped the Great-Grandfather of all droughts, the one in 1934.
There's generally at least one year of drought out of every seven, in the Upper Great Plains.
It follows a natural cycle, smaller cycles inside of larger cycles that are hundreds of years in between.
There is no one alive who ever endured a drought such as the Great Barack Drought of '12; as far as historians and geologists can determine, the last time it was as bad as July 2012 in Nebraska was in the early 1820s, and before that, circa 1615 and about 1433-1435.
I recall as a child, being told about the dire drought in the northeastern United States during the late 1960s; all these people in New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, whatnot, running around like a bunch of chickens with their heads cut off, scared shitless because they thought they were going to run out of water forever.
Stupid blue-staters, I thought at the time--even though only a child!--don't they understand that nature moves in cycles?
And a few years later, the northeastern United States was inundated, and the idiot blue-staters thought they were going to be washed out to sea, there was so much water.
Bah, humbug.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Bah, humbug.
Who and how was it the fault the Locus to descend on the mid west ???
How has Silent Spring brought about the non use of DDT.
How come since the banning of DDT we now have to worry about the Listeria and what ever that is now in the food chain. Bed bugs and West Nile Virus, Deer ticks and stuff we only lately in last 50 years find invading our Continent from some far away places with strange sounding names.
For you of Irish decent, what caused the potato famine, -------This is life, we as humans have had to adapt to changes and work to survive. We need to work with the circumstances and find ways to survive along side War, Pestilence, Disease, and Climate Change.
Bah Humbeg indeed, we will survive and keep us humans here on earth , perhaps not exactly as we know it today, but then 30 years ago who could have imagined the life we have today. ???
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Dear Vesta,
Thanks for the headache.
EK
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Dear Vesta,
Thanks for the headache.
EK
Take a Bufferin, thanks for the compliment, at least you you did not say you now had to run out and pick up Preparation H.
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How has Silent Spring brought about the non use of DDT.
With lies and bullshit (http://spectator.org/archives/2005/02/25/ddt-fraud-and-tragedy) that has cost millions of lives.
How come since the banning of DDT we now have to worry about the Listeria and what ever that is now in the food chain.
What?!? Listeria has nothing to do with DDT! DDT killed mosquitoes, not Listeria! Holy shit, do you ever put the bong down long enough to think before you type?
Bed bugs and West Nile Virus, Deer ticks and stuff we only lately in last 50 years find invading our Continent from some far away places with strange sounding names.
Bed bugs? Deer ticks? Only in the last 50 years, vesta? Oy vey.... *shakes head*
For you of Irish decent, what caused the potato famine
Infected seed potatoes from Mexico. There, now you know.
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Take a Bufferin, thanks for the compliment, at least you you did not say you now had to run out and pick up Preparation H.
Vesta is to Nads as EagleKeeper is to Zappaman
I just got it! :rofl:
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and perhaps the worm is turning
Wait, I thought it was the tide that was turning. Did someone change it?
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Red Wigglers :naughty:
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Red Wigglers :naughty:
Sounds like a nickname :naughty: :-)
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Holy ****ing Shit that was a waste of time by the bald gnome.
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If Mexico is your benchmark for anything, you've already failed.
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If Mexico is your benchmark for anything, you've already failed.
Well, Mexico will always beat us at making Tequila. Granted, the only reason is that the nation copyrighted the word Tequila, and will sue any foreign producer who distills blue agave and calls it by the forbidden name. But I suppose a win, is still a win - even if it is because of a cadre of ninja lawyers.
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Well, Mexico will always beat us at making Tequila. Granted, the only reason is that the nation copyrighted the word Tequila, and will sue any foreign producer who distills blue agave and calls it by the forbidden name. But I suppose a win, is still a win - even if it is because of a cadre of ninja lawyers.
Who says we can't lead the world in tequila in the 20th century?
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Who says we can't lead the world in tequila in the 20th century?
:rotf:
As long as it does not put us back in chains.
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Who was in charge 15 years ago?
Hmmm...and warming stopped in '98.
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Red Wigglers :naughty:
The Cadillac of worms......sorry, had a WKRP flashback there. :-)