Seems like this is an actual case of political terrorism. Cue the DUmp outra... Oh that's right, it's the Family Research Council and the DUmp will celebrate this.
Isn't this one of the "hate groups" that Chick-fil-A donates to? The name sounds familiar.
DUmmies will say that this shooting is ok because of the target.
DUmmies will say that this shooting is ok because of the target.
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I mean, it's a hate group, right? So why shouldn't people target them?
DUmmies are hippo-critters.
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21. The Family Research Council Headquarters is in Chinatown?
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Isn't that just a bit ironic LOL
DUmmies will say that this shooting is ok because of the target.
And right on cue:
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I mean, it's a hate group, right? So why shouldn't people target them?
And right on cue:
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I mean, it's a hate group, right? So why shouldn't people target them?
They will claim that we did this to ourselves to try to pin it on the left.
A security guard at the Family Research Council's headquarters in Washington, D.C. is being hailed as a hero after he stopped a gunman posing as an intern, taking a bullet in the arm before wrestling the suspect to the ground.
The gunman entered the lobby of the organization's Chinatown headquarters around 10:45 and expressed disagreement with the conservative group's policy positions, Fox News has learned. When the guard, who was not identified, asked him where he was going, he opened fire, according to police.
“The security guard here is a hero, as far as I’m concerned,†D.C. Police Chief Cathy Lanier said. â€He did his job. The person never made it past the front.â€
“The security guard here is a hero, as far as I’m concerned.â€
- D.C. Police Chief Cathy Lanier
The guard, who was not identified, was shot in the arm and was conscious after the shooting and was in stable condition. The gunman, who also was not identified, was being questioned by the FBI, sources said. Sources said he is in his twenties.
The suspect "made statements regarding their policies, and then opened fire with a gun striking a security guard," a source told Fox News. WJLA-TV7 reported the suspect was also shot
Expect more of this over the next several months to years. The DUmmies and collectivist trash in this country have been about one step away from strapping themselves with explosives and detonating themselves in malls and the like. History has shown us that there is no negotiating or reasonable expectation of rational behavior from idealouges, and this type of behavior is all the evidence anyone should need to arm themselves and be ready to "diffuse" any leftist shithead.
When the iron gets jerked, the talking has ended, DUmmies. Every damned one of you that harbor the first thought about doing something as stupid as this should get it into your heads that civilized people won't give your tantrums the first thought when you threaten their lives.
A suspect in the shooting of a security guard at the headquarters of a downtown D.C. conservative Christian lobbying firm criticized the group's anti-gay stance before opening fire, a source tells ABC7.
By their definition, it is stochastic terrorism, but it was caused by their side. The SPLC recently pointed them out as a hated group during the CFA sell-a-thon.
The SPLC needs to be shut down and disbanded for advocating actions like this.
Founded in 1971 by a pair of Alabama lawyers, Morris Dees and Joe Levin, the Montgomery-based Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) quickly built a reputation as America's leading "civil rights law firm," suing Southern institutions resistant to desegregation, publicizing hate crimes, and using the media to denounce the perpetrators of those crimes. At the time of SPLC's founding, Julian Bond, who currently chairs the NAACP, was named the fledgling group's first President.
In 1995, Alabama's Montgomery Advertiser published a series of investigative reports that raised serious questions about SPLC's finances. In one instance mentioned by the paper, SPLC won a celebrated $7 million settlement after suing a Ku Klux Klan organization in Alabama. The Klan was without assets and the SPLC client received very little from the suit. By contrast, SPLC directors -- having garnered $9 million in donations in a two-year fundraising campaign for the trial -- afforded themselves salaries of $350,000 for the trial's duration.
A 1998 survey conducted by the nonpartisan publication National Journal showed that Morris Dees earned tens of thousands of dollars more each year than the officers of 78 other selected advocacy groups, including the heads of such prominent organizations as the ACLU, the NAACP Legal Defense and Education Fund, and the Children's Defense Fund.
I believe there will be another Civil War.
If there is, it will be fairly short.
The gunman, identified as 28-year-old Floyd Lee Corkins II, entered the lobby of the organization's Chinatown headquarters around 10:45 a.m. and expressed disagreement with the conservative group's policy positions, sources tell Fox News.Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/08/15/guard-at-family-research-council-shot/#ixzz23ebzA2lk)
Sources also said the gunman may have been carrying a bag from Chick-fil-A, the embattled fast-food restaurant whose president came under fire from gay activists after he said he did not agree with same-sex marriage.
Sources told Fox News that after guard took away his gun, the suspect said, "Don't shoot me, it was not about you, it was what this place stands for."
Authorities were treating the attack as a case of domestic terrorism, although James McJunkin, the head of the FBI’s Washington Field Office, said authorities do not yet know the gunman's motive.
(snip)........whoa!
AP later confirmed that Corkins is a liberal activist who volunteers with a left-wing group in the D.C. area.
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Not until after 6:30 p.m. ET did the White House respond. Obama finally commented, saying “this type of violence has no place in our society.†But a CNN tweet indicated, “WH says Pres. Obama was notified at 1:18pm of the Family Research Council shooting by national sec. adviser John Brennan.â€
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What is his DU handle?
Authorities were treating the attack as a case of domestic terrorism, although James McJunkin, the head of the FBI’s Washington Field Office, said authorities do not yet know the gunman's motive.
The gunman, identified as 28-year-old Floyd Lee Corkins II, entered the lobby of the organization's Chinatown headquarters around 10:45 a.m. and expressed disagreement with the conservative group's policy positions, sources tell Fox News.
Sources also said the gunman may have been carrying a bag from Chick-fil-A, the embattled fast-food restaurant whose president came under fire from gay activists after he said he did not agree with same-sex marriage.
Sources told Fox News that after guard took away his gun, the suspect said, "Don't shoot me, it was not about you, it was what this place stands for."
I wonder how much we pay this descendant of Einstein to not have a clue..
I thought President Obama's remarks today about stopping hate in the wake of this tragedy were especially well done.
Oh wait. He's said absolutely NOTHING. :mad:
Alleged FRC Shooter Charged With Assault, Was Carrying 15 Chick-fil-A Sandwiches at Time of ShootingI'm sorry, but that headline is :rotf:
Another tolerant liberals shows his love for others. Is this anything out of the ordinary?
NEW HAVEN, August 23, 2012, (LifeSiteNews.com) – A Connecticut homosexual pled guilty on Tuesday to sending 300 threatening messages, including death threats, to the leader of a state pro-life, pro-marriage organization.
53-year-old Daniel Sarno of Enfield, Connecticut, admitted intimidating Peter Wolfgang, the executive director of the Family Institute of Connecticut, over a six-month period from last November until May.
One message read: “No mercy for homophobes. I suggest you make your funeral arrangements real soon, Mr. Wolfgang.â€
Another said, “I sure hope somebody blows you away. Yer dead.â€
Sarno once asked, “Are ‘family values’ worth dying for, Mr. Wolfgang?â€
Wolfgang said Sarno identified himself as a homosexual in the letters, which came addressed “Attention: Peter Wolfgang.â€
“Unfortunately, this is not an isolated incident,†Wolfgang said in a statement e-mailed to LifeSiteNews.com. “In fact it is part of a growing and disturbing intimidation campaign among some proponents of same-sex ‘marriage.’ It is clear that their pretense of ‘tolerance’ is over.â€
The conviction comes as other homosexual extremists have turned violent.
LGBT activist Floyd Corkins II shot security guard Leo Johnson at the Family Research Council’s headquarters last Wednesday after saying, “I don’t like your politics.â€
In April, a group of self-proclaimed “angry queers†smashed the windows of a 100-year-old church in Oregon, because it opposes redefining marriage. “The only dialog we need with scum like Mars Hill [church] is hammers through their windows,†their note read.
Traditional Values Coalition President Andrea Lafferty told LifeSiteNews.com her organization has received “many, many threats from the homosexual and transgender community†dating as far back as the 1980s, but the Obama administration’s leadership “does not believe they need to protect us.†Attorney General Eric Holder, she said, “has put Christians at a low priority.â€
In Connecticut, everyone was happy things were resolved without violence.
“Using death threats to stifle debate is un-American,†Wolfgang said, promising to remain unbowed. “These types of tactics won’t work. The Family Institute of Connecticut will continue its work to strengthen and protect marriage, life and religious freedom.†He thanked local police for protecting his family members and employees.
The Hartford Courant blasted Wolfgang, even as it condemned threats of violence. The paper stated in an unsigned editorial, “Threats of violence don’t produce understanding. And it is a hypocrisy when those who plead for tolerance are themselves intolerant.â€
Sarno plead guilty to two counts of mailing threatening material. He could receive up to 10 years in prison and a maximum of $500,000 in fines. U.S. District Judge Ellen Bree Burns set the sentencing hearing for next January 3 in New Haven.
Whilst I'm in favour of non-religious gay marriage, what this man did was wrong and deserves everything he gets. In the developed world, you should be able to settle your differences with debate, not violent threats.
Keep reading the posts in Political Ammunition - gays have a history of bullying those who oppose them.
Whilst I'm in favour of non-religious gay marriage, what this man did was wrong and deserves everything he gets. In the developed world, you should be able to settle your differences with debate, not violent threats.What's this ? No "middle ground" for death threats ? Can't we agree on, say, maim threats ?
What's this ? No "middle ground" for death threats ? Can't we agree on, say, maim threats ?
By a middle ground I meant a solution that would please the majority of people. I don't support threats of violence in regards to same-sex marriage, nor do most stable individuals.
The majority of Americans oppose gay marriage. You Canadians favor fags marrying fags. Do us a favor and stay out of our politics. It is none of your business. You and your kind can butt plug eachother till the cows come home for all I care.If you look to please the most people, you will have to give up many if not all of your principles. If you have no principles, morals, ethics, it makes it a lot more simple to please a majority of people.
If you look to please the most people, you will have to give up many if not all of your principles. If you have no principles, morals, ethics, it makes it a lot more simple to please a majority of people.
If you look to please the most people, you will have to give up many if not all of your principles. If you have no principles, morals, ethics, it makes it a lot more simple to please a majority of people.
It's all politics...we've gotten by without homosexual marriages for thousands of years. It's just been recently that the democrats decided that things were so bad for them that they needed to poke the hornets nest and catch a few in their big tent voter base. They'll pull a Hitler with the queers once they get their socialist utopia. How many new workers do queers produce?
What do you mean by "pull a Hitler with the queers"? I'd imagine that a more accepting society would improve the lives of homosexuals, as they wouldn't be so discriminated against, thus more productive in the workplace.You are so naive. Hitler marked the gays with the same mark as the jews. He wanted to eradicate them from his reich, just like militant islam aka the religion of peace.
You are so naive. Hitler marked the gays with the same mark as the jews. He wanted to eradicate them from his reich, just like militant islam aka the religion of peace.
I'm well aware of that, I thought you meant that JohnnyReb was implying that Obama would be highly authoritarian in support of gay rights, stomping out opposition by force. I'm not naive, nor am I ignorant, I just wasn't sure what he meant.I suspect you are at least somewhat on this issue.
I suspect you are at least somewhat on this issue.
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"I'd imagine that a more accepting society would improve the lives of homosexuals, as they wouldn't be so discriminated against, thus more productive in the workplace."
This (US) is an accepting society. From what I have seen, it is the most. Gays are not "so discriminated against". if anything they are an illegitimate affirmative action receiving group. Gays are already very productive, as they represent purchasing power out of proportion to their population.
As for JohnneyReb, I wouldn't pretend to speak for him, but if you look at how socialists have handled gays, they are used initially by the comrades as useful idiots, and then are the first to be eliminated once the commune has solidified sufficiently.
What do you mean by "pull a Hitler with the queers"? I'd imagine that a more accepting society would improve the lives of homosexuals, as they wouldn't be so discriminated against, thus more productive in the workplace.
Ernst Rohm and most of the SA(brownshirts) leadership were flaming homosexuals. During the 1920's until the mid 1930's, Germany was a homosexuals delight. When they were no longer useful they were killed during "The Night of the Long Knives".
...and does the folowing sound like anyone we know?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_R%C3%B6hm
This group took the words "Sozialistische" and "Arbeiter" ("worker") in the party's name literally. They largely rejected capitalism (which they associated with Jews) and pushed for nationalisation of major industrial firms, expanded worker control, confiscation and redistribution of the estates of the old aristocracy and social equality. Röhm spoke of a "second revolution" against "reactionaries" (the National Socialist label for old-line conservatives),
The Nazi party was increadibly anti-socialist, as seen by the anti-union and anti-Communist tendencies of the party. The Nazi party isn't a very good example in regards to contemporary social democracy, which pretty much every major left wing party subscribes to has little to nothing in common with the Nazi Party when it comes to social policies. What about when it is through right-wing parties that same-sex marriage is pushed forward, as seen in Portugal and Sweden and the attempts to legalised same-sex marriage within the UK?
I lived in Europe almost 15 years and I can tell you the Europeans have had a lot of time to develop socialism to levels we can't even imagine.owebuma has promised that he will transform the US into a european style socialist state.
Yet.
I lived in Europe almost 15 years and I can tell you the Europeans have had a lot of time to develop socialism to levels we can't even imagine.Where in Europe out of interest?
Yet.
Where in Europe out of interest?
European social democracy may not be economically sound, but it isn't going to call for the eradication of gays any time soon. The thing about socialism is that it is a very broad church ideologically, on one extreme you've got Orthodox Marxist who want total state control and the opposite would be social democrats who support a market based economy.
Germany has permitted civil unions between same-sex couples since 2001, but hasn't lifted its ban on gay marriage.
Where in Europe out of interest?Social democrats don't support market based economies. They support government centered and managed economies.
European social democracy may not be economically sound, but it isn't going to call for the eradication of gays any time soon. The thing about socialism is that it is a very broad church ideologically, on one extreme you've got Orthodox Marxist who want total state control and the opposite would be social democrats who support a market based economy.
Social democrats don't support market based economies. They support government centered and managed economies.
Yes they do, in countries with social-democratic governments, they have market economies, the government just has too much control for my liking.
@Eupher: Gays really aren't my favourite issue.
But you contradict yourself. Market economies aren't government controlled, aside from basic contract laws and the like.
One could argue that, as you call them, mixed economies are merely those economies that the state hasn't successfully nationalized yet.
I'd disagree, as social-democratic parties in Europe have for the most part steadily moved towards the political centre since the 1980's, Britain's Labour party being an example of that. Seeing as Blair didn't reverse the privatisation utilities and other previously nationalised industries.That you started.
It seems that we've gone off on a tangent.
That you started.
DC shooter wanted to kill as many as possible, prosecutors sayCNN (http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/06/justice/dc-family-research-council-shooting/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn)
After years of thinking it over, Floyd Corkins finally had a plan.
He'd bought a gun and learned how to use it. He'd loaded three magazines. And he had stopped by Chick-fil-A to pick up 15 sandwiches, which he planned to smear in the dying faces of staffers he expected to kill at the Family Research Council in Washington.
It would be a statement, he said, "against the people who work in that building," according to documents filed in U.S. District Court, where Corkins pleaded guilty on Wednesday to three charges related to the August shooting at the conservative policy group.
The charges carry sentences of up to 70 years in prison. However, the sentence could be shorter because Corkins has no prior criminal record.
CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/06/justice/dc-family-research-council-shooting/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn)
How is this not a hate crime? Why should he receive any leniency?
Some are saying that he picked this target because of the SPLC putting the group on their "Hate Group" list.If that's true, I hope a family member sues the SPLC out of existence. They're nothing more than muckrakers.
If that's true, I hope a family member sues the SPLC out of existence. They're nothing more than muckrakers.
I wasn't the one who used the Nazi regime as an example of socialism in government.
They don't? Hmmmm, what exactly do they know?
No idea what his motives were? Really?!?
My fellow cavers, meet the dumbest sumbitch in Washington, DC, Mr James McJunkin.
(http://pennstateforum.psu.edu/images/McJunkin.jpg)
I wonder how much we pay this descendant of Einstein to not have a clue... :whatever: