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Title: The USS Wisconsin: YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT.
Post by: Freeper on August 12, 2012, 12:19:19 PM
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ProSense (86,177 posts)

The USS Wisconsin: YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT.


 
The USS Wisconsin: YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT.

by Wheever

I am still totally agog at the fact that Romney used the battleship the USS Wisconsin as the backdrop for his grease, gab and stroke fest with his new buddy Paul Ryan. Why? After the squig...

The USS Wisconsin was launched on 7 December 1943, the second anniversary of the raid on Pearl Harbor. You know, during World War II. Why is this important? Because the Wisconsin, her sister ships, and all the other billions of tons of munitions and weapons built for the war effort were funded not by private equity, not by private corporations, and not by individuals*, but by the United States Government. The war effort was, without a doubt, the single greatest period of job creation this country has ever seen, or will ever see.

The war effort created jobs for millions upon millions of Americans; it pulled many millions of these same people out of desperate poverty; it effectively ended the depression; and trained millions in new manufacturing skills that they otherwise would never have had the opportunity to acquire. The War effort created the middle class as we know it, bringing the fabled prosperity of the '50s.

And all of this was government spending. The War effort was the single biggest "stimulus package" the world has ever seen. The government opened its wallet and dumped money into this country, and everybody got richer. (And the really bad ****ers of The Axis got their asses kicked.) And one of the many ways the Federal government gathered the money for this stimulus was by raising taxes on the wealthy.

The USS Wisconsin is a beautiful symbol of what only government can do--big Government, with lots of money to spend, collected through taxes. And Rmoney and Ryan, those anti-government schmucks, thought it was a fine symbol of what they stand for. Romney, dude, you and your rich ****ing buddies DIDN'T ****ING BUILD THAT. It's not irony that you chose a symbol of the War effort as your back drop, it's idiocy.

(* in case someone brings it up, yes, individuals and corporations helped to build weaponry, etc, through the purchase of war bonds, but only the Federal Government could issue war bonds. So there. Don't pick nits.)

This here is my first diary after years on the site. I just couldn't let this buffoonery go by without commenting, as no one else seems to have diaried it. So here I go...

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/11/1119103/-The-USS-Wisconsin-YOU-DIDN-T-BUILD-THAT


Paul Ryan, who received Social Security, picks up "build that" lie standing on a Navy battleship
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021110549



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http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021117060

Right on cue they bitch and moan about this.

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Cooley Hurd (19,200 posts)
3. A ship that helped save us from Fascism and the Imperial Japanese...

...is now being used by TRUE AMERICAN FASCISTS as a prop???? Color me PISSED!!!

I didn't realize that 0bama was there.
Tell me this DUmmies how in the hell are we the fascists when it us that want limited government? How does fascism work under a limited government?

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Viva_Daddy (271 posts)
6. They didn't SERVE on it either.

I note that these warmongers love to support "defense spending" just as long as neither they nor their children have to fight the wars they want to start.

Neither did Barry or Joe.


Title: Re: The USS Wisconsin: YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT.
Post by: Carl on August 12, 2012, 12:26:21 PM
So they are saying that FDRs domestic economic policies kept us in depression for over 8 years?
Title: Re: The USS Wisconsin: YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT.
Post by: Kyle Ricky on August 12, 2012, 12:49:24 PM
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ProSense (86,177 posts)

The USS Wisconsin: YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT.


 
The USS Wisconsin: YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT.

by Wheever

I am still totally agog at the fact that Romney used the battleship the USS Wisconsin as the backdrop for his grease, gab and stroke fest with his new buddy Paul Ryan. Why? After the squig...

Oh come on, you retarded douchebag. If Captain Zero was there giving a speech, you would be soaking your towel with man juice. Just like Chris Matthews does every time the Great One opens his mouth.


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Viva_Daddy (271 posts)
6. They didn't SERVE on it either.

I note that these warmongers love to support "defense spending" just as long as neither they nor their children have to fight the wars they want to start.


Name the last Dem presidential candidate who served, and John 'F'n' Kerry doesn't count.
Title: Re: The USS Wisconsin: YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT.
Post by: WinOne4TheGipper on August 12, 2012, 01:10:17 PM
Where did the government get the money to build it?
Title: Re: The USS Wisconsin: YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT.
Post by: Kyle Ricky on August 12, 2012, 01:13:32 PM
Where did the government get the money to build it?

They just printed it.
Title: Re: The USS Wisconsin: YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT.
Post by: Splashdown on August 12, 2012, 01:13:45 PM
Nobody ever has aruged that national defense is a responsibility of the government, DUchebag. What we're arguing is that the individual who built his or her business DID, in fact, build that business.
Title: Re: The USS Wisconsin: YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT.
Post by: Freeper on August 12, 2012, 01:22:57 PM
Nobody ever has aruged that national defense is a responsibility of the government, DUchebag. What we're arguing is that the individual who built his or her business DID, in fact, build that business.

Of all the things we spend money on, defense is the only one that is specifically outlined in the Constitution. It doesn't say we can provide for a defense it says we must. Unlike the welfare clause where it says promote, it says provide.

Title: Re: The USS Wisconsin: YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT.
Post by: BEG on August 12, 2012, 01:35:03 PM
Lame
Title: Re: The USS Wisconsin: YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT.
Post by: Crazy Horse on August 12, 2012, 06:06:11 PM
No dipshit, we gave everything to win that war, including our most beloved treasure ......lives.

This was not a collective good that happened, it was a good for all involved.  Everyone had skin in the game.  They did what they did, not for promoting a new way but to promote the american way. 

You cannot equate the war effort to today ......if you did then WHERE THE **** have y'all been since 1990?
Title: Re: The USS Wisconsin: YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT.
Post by: debk on August 12, 2012, 06:07:29 PM
Darn....here I thought it was announced on the USS Wisconsin because Ryan was born and raised in Wisconsin, he's been a Congressman from Wisconsin since 1999.

The USS Wisconsin is also a symbol of the strength of the United States as a world power, one to be reckoned with.

Obviously I shouldn't think....  :thatsright:
Title: Re: The USS Wisconsin: YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT.
Post by: thundley4 on August 12, 2012, 06:15:44 PM
Darn....here I thought it was announced on the USS Wisconsin because Ryan was born and raised in Wisconsin, he's been a Congressman from Wisconsin since 1999.

The USS Wisconsin is also a symbol of the strength of the United States as a world power, one to be reckoned with.

Obviously I shouldn't think....  :thatsright:

Obvious to you , me and other sane people.  See what I did there?  I excluded DUmmies .  :-)
Title: Re: The USS Wisconsin: YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT.
Post by: debk on August 12, 2012, 06:16:44 PM
Obvious to you , me and other sane people.  See what I did there?  I excluded DUmmies .  :-)


 :-*
Title: Re: The USS Wisconsin: YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT.
Post by: AprilRazz on August 12, 2012, 06:38:49 PM
Name the last Dem presidential candidate who served, and John 'F'n' Kerry doesn't count.
Carter is the only one I can think of.
Title: Re: The USS Wisconsin: YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT.
Post by: Airwolf on August 12, 2012, 08:33:21 PM
Carter is the only one I can think of.

Kennedy and Carter where the last two presidents that have served in the Military and some of the moonbats don;t like John Kennedy all tha tmuch since the right keeps reminding them of the fact that Kennedys economic policies are just like most Cconservatives. 
Title: Re: The USS Wisconsin: YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT.
Post by: Zeus on August 12, 2012, 08:43:51 PM
According to the Dummie OP the USA should stay in a state of perpetual War and maintain a strong Military Industrial Complex and the economy well be just fine.  :mental:
Title: Re: The USS Wisconsin: YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT.
Post by: Kyle Ricky on August 12, 2012, 11:32:52 PM
Carter is the only one I can think of.


Kennedy and Carter where the last two presidents that have served in the Military and some of the moonbats don;t like John Kennedy all tha tmuch since the right keeps reminding them of the fact that Kennedys economic policies are just like most Cconservatives.  

These are Since WWII

Republican Presidents:

George Bush - Air National Guard
George H.W Bush - Nay, WWII
Ronald Reagan - Army, WWII
Gerald Ford - Navy, WWII
Richard Nixon - Navy, WWII
Dwight D. Eisenhower - WWII

Democrats Presidents:

obama - None
Clinton - None
Jimmy Carter - Navy, Served during Korea, but didn't go to Korea.
Lyndon Johnson - Navy, WWII
John F. Kennedy - Navy, WWII
Harry S. Truman - Army, WWI

So, looking at that, every Republican President Since WWII has served in the military. Not so much for the Dems....Captain Zero has no room to talk.
Title: Re: The USS Wisconsin: YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT.
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on August 13, 2012, 02:11:36 AM
Where did the government get the money to build it?

*ding*  *ding*  *ding*
Title: Re: The USS Wisconsin: YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT.
Post by: AprilRazz on August 13, 2012, 05:54:06 AM

These are Since WWII

Republican Presidents:

George Bush - Air National Guard
George H.W Bush - Nay, WWII
Ronald Reagan - Army, WWII
Gerald Ford - Navy, WWII
Richard Nixon - Navy, WWII
Dwight D. Eisenhower - WWII

Democrats Presidents:

obama - None
Clinton - None
Jimmy Carter - Navy, Served during Korea, but didn't go to Korea.
Lyndon Johnson - Navy, WWII
John F. Kennedy - Navy, WWII
Harry S. Truman - Army, WWI

So, looking at that, every Republican President Since WWII has served in the military. Not so much for the Dems....Captain Zero has no room to talk.
If you said honorable service that would keep a certain dim candidate off that list.
Title: Re: The USS Wisconsin: YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT.
Post by: JohnnyReb on August 13, 2012, 06:12:01 AM
Where did the government get the money to build it?

The DUmmies have no idea where it came from.

ETA: My smartass answer.

From the geese that lay the golden eggs.......The U.S. Taxpayer.
Title: Re: The USS Wisconsin: YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT.
Post by: Kyle Ricky on August 13, 2012, 01:30:32 PM
If you said honorable service that would keep a certain dim candidate off that list.

Oh yeah? Which one?

Oh, you are talking about Kerry. The list is Presidents. If Kerry would have won, he would definitely get an * beside his name.
Title: Re: The USS Wisconsin: YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT.
Post by: Airwolf on August 13, 2012, 02:33:33 PM

These are Since WWII

Republican Presidents:

George Bush - Air National Guard
George H.W Bush - Nay, WWII
Ronald Reagan - Army, WWII
Gerald Ford - Navy, WWII
Richard Nixon - Navy, WWII
Dwight D. Eisenhower - WWII

Democrats Presidents:

obama - None
Clinton - None
Jimmy Carter - Navy, Served during Korea, but didn't go to Korea.
Lyndon Johnson - Navy, WWII
John F. Kennedy - Navy, WWII
Harry S. Truman - Army, WWI

So, looking at that, every Republican President Since WWII has served in the military. Not so much for the Dems....Captain Zero has no room to talk.

Thanks for the list, I had no idea that Truman did and wasn't sure about LBJ.