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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: CactusCarlos on August 10, 2012, 01:53:24 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/113718545
WillParkinson (15,658 posts)
Still think homosexuality is sinful? (Check the graphic)
(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc244/paulparkinson/sinfulmeme.jpg)
That's all I needed - I support gay marriage now. Thanks WillParkinson! :whatever:
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"Have fun living your sexist, chauvinistic, judgemental, xenophobic lifestyle choice. The rest of the culture will advance forward without you."
Great way to win people over to your side. :whatever:
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I'm sure the usual suspects on facebook will have this plastered all over their pages before long. :lmao:
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/113718545
That's all I needed - I support gay marriage now. Thanks WillParkinson! :whatever:
ROTFLMAO. He thinks that he's going to get anyone to shut up with that?
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I'm sure the usual suspects on facebook will have this plastered all over their pages before long. :lmao:
Yup. It's popped up a few times on my FB. Annoying, but whatever.
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So Jesus never said a word about same sex marriage? Then explain this
“Haven’t you read,†he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’ So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate.â€
Matthew 19:4-6
The complete lack of Biblical understanding in that graphic is utterly amazing. They got everything completely wrong. This was drawn up by someone who thinks they know the Bible based on goggling a topic and believing just the results that corresponded to a predetermined opinion.
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The fallacy of that chart is that under the "yes" options, only Biblical objections are given.
The Biblical objections of course are valid, but some are uncomfortable for non-Scriptural reasons.
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I've seen that picture posted several times on Facebook. But seeing as I'm an aspiring actor/singer, most of my friends are super lefties when it come to gay issues.
It's really funny how black and white liberals become when gay marriage comes up. If you disagree for any reason whatsoever, then you are a bible thumper, a homophobe, a gay killer, on the wrong side of history(does being a liberal require one to become snarky, arrogant, and just plain rude?), or whatever they want to scream next.
Gotta love how they get the Old Testament law wrong all the time when they use the shellfishs rebuttal. :whatever:
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Wow, no judgementalism (is this a word?) in that graphic at all. :whatever:
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Wow, no judgementalism (is this a word?) in that graphic at all. :whatever:
It's only judgemental when it's a Christian doing it to a non-believer, it's not when it's the other way around.
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When God sits in judgement over all men, I doubt graphics like this will help the sinners at all.
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Satan never rests.
I follow the "YES" arrow in order to be part of a civilized society. Nothing will ever change that truth. Nothing.
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Yup. It's popped up a few times on my FB. Annoying, but whatever.
It showed up on my FB, too. I'm pissing people off because I'm speaking up. I'm apparently being a jerk for telling people that they're wrong when that's actually what the graphic itself is doing!
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When God sits in judgement over all men, I doubt graphics like this will help the sinners at all.
I think in terms of us sinners.
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So Jesus never said a word about same sex marriage? Then explain this
Matthew 19:4-6
The complete lack of Biblical understanding in that graphic is utterly amazing. They got everything completely wrong. This was drawn up by someone who thinks they know the Bible based on goggling a topic and believing just the results that corresponded to a predetermined opinion.
Have you noticed that passage never shows up in the liberal's argument that "Jesus never mentioned homosexuality in the NT"? It certainly seems fairly straight (no pun intended) forward to me.
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Look, I'm not big into organized religion but every night I go to bed with a clear conscience. Is not the very definition of sin in the Bible? Is that not the only source for what would be accurately defined as sin?
So by definition dirt poking is a sin? If a DUchebag wants to argue the logic, I'm here and feel free to bring your knife.
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The difference is those that think homosexuality is a sin just want to live and let live. They share their values with their children just as gay parents do. Except they aren't shoving their beliefs down everyone's throat. They only talk about in the public arena when they're being beaten over the head by your side. Plenty of prominent democrats (including 0bama who "evolved" for election season) believe marriage is between a man and a woman. So what? You expect people to go against their deeply held beliefs and values. Like playground wannabe bullies, you throw loud tantrums, kicking and screaming until you've got everyone looking at you. Of course, in you're childish mind you think that alone is going to bring people to your side. When that doesn't work you start in with the name calling. Your supposed "allies" are willing to throw tantrums on your behalf, too, but that's all they're willing to do. Think about it.
And there's no compromise with you, it's all or nothing. Nor do you seem to understand you can still have a ceremony. If a celebration of your love and vow of commitment is truly what this was about, you wouldn't be so concerned about whether the government recognized. That's why most people get married (although some of us bring God into the whole commitment thing). I got a piece of paper from the government because I had no choice. What you want is state-sanctioned marriage. Unfortunately, it's been voted down in almost every state where it's been on the ballot. You're response...another tantrum, this time in a court. Honestly, regardless of my personal beliefs, I don't really have a problem with gay marriage. Live and let live. The right isn't a monolith so different opinions don't cause immediate panic and ostracism. Your side doesn't know how to deal with people who don't think exactly like everyone else in their little cult.
For me, the solution to this is simple: get the government out of the marriage business altogether. Conservatives want less government. That's a compromise you'd have a good shot getting the right to support. Why the hell is who you love and want to spend your life with any business of Uncle Sam? However, that presents a problem for your side. Revenue. See, for the left taxes and fees trump everything. You're rights, you're fight mean nothing to them if it means less money coming into their precious government coffers. They'll offer you the same old rhetoric they usually do...make the same promises they've been making for a decade now. This is the same thing they've done to the black community for over 50 years. Sadly, they've been so well conditioned after a half century, they no longer see they can make without Democrats.
But you guys haven't been under the thumb of the left for as long. You're intelligent, educated and capable of critical thinking. Blacks used to be that way. Don't let it happen to you. This whole situation is tailor made for them to keep you exactly where you are, incapable of seeing any alternative but those on the left. They tell you conservatives are bigots. They tell you the only way to get marriage equality is to take them down because they're the enemy. And you believe them. You believe you'll never have what you want without them.
But ask yourselves...if gay marriage became the law of the land, would you need the left anymore? Would you give them an entire voting block for this illusive "someday". You contribute to their campaigns for promises they have no intention of keeping. Many of the gay people I know are very successful. They own their own businesses. You're going to be taxed beyond your ability to keep your business open like everyone else because they refuse to recognize that $250,000 is business income because it's a part of your tax return. But, you know you need it to keep your businesses going. 0bamacare (whether you provide health insurance or not) is going to break your backs just like every other small business owner. The only people that will be able to thrive are those in the government and large corporations. If your pet issue was eliminated, you'd start thinking about what their other policies are doing to you, to your employees, to the businesses you've worked hard to build (of course, you didn't build it so maybe it's not so bad for you). You'd no longer be a monolithic voting block for them. That just won't do.
Cindie
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Homosexuality is just as contrary to darwinian theory as it is religious doctrine.
The practice excludes the participants genetic material from the available pool - thus preventing any beneficial or detrimental mutations (like maybe homosexuality eh?) from being passed into the next iteration. The passing on of said mutations being core to evolutionary theory.
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There has long been an unfulfilled claim that homosexuality is genetic.
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There has long been an unfulfilled claim that homosexuality is genetic.
If there was any truth to that, gays would join the pro-life movement overnight.
All parents are hetero by nature. If there was a genetic test for gayness, would hetero parents abort?
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If there was any truth to that, gays would join the pro-life movement overnight.
All parents are hetero by nature. If there was a genetic test for gayness, would hetero parents abort?
If there were tests for a "liberal" gene, and a "gay" gene, and I had to abort a child of mine for one of them, then I'd have to abort my child for becoming a "liberal" before I would abort it for being "gay".
I can tolerate gays, liberals get on my F'N nerves! :killemall:
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WillParkinson (15,658 posts)
Still think homosexuality is sinful?
Yes.
Next question...
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Xenophobic?! Where is the Gay Country? France?
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Boy! If God makes graphs of ones sinful life, I don't want to see mine.
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Boy! If God makes graphs of ones sinful life, I don't want to see mine.
Mine could be on the back of a postage stamp.
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(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc244/paulparkinson/sinfulmeme.jpg)
As you can, they once again took what the bible says, and what Jesus didn't say, to try and make it out to be what they think. Their ignorance sinks to no level.
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Mine could be on the back of a postage stamp.
With how much window pane ?
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Boy! If God makes graphs of ones sinful life, I don't want to see mine.
My wrap sheet when I go to heaven is going to a couple of miles long. Before I got 're-saved', I was a very sinful man. I still am according to the bible, but I try not to do the things I did when I was the old me.
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My wrap sheet when I go to heaven is going to a couple of miles long. Before I got 're-saved', I was a very sinful man. I still am according to the bible, but I try not to do the things I did when I who I used to be.
When you are wrapped in his glory, you will not have to worry about your rap sheet.
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Gee since they have a graph, it must mean they are right. Graphs never lie.
:-)
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When you are wrapped in his glory, you will not have to worry about your rap sheet.
That is so true. I can't wait till the day comes ...
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That is so true. I can't wait till the day comes ...
Same here, but until that day does come, November 6th will have to do for now. :-)
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Same here, but until that day does come, November 6th will have to do for now. :-)
Yes, until then, November 6th will do. :-)
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Have fun living your sexist, chauvinistic,judgemental, xenophobic, lifestyle choice. The rest of society will advance forward without you.
Well, at least they aren't "Judgemental!!" LOL As far as I'm concerned, the rest of society can "advance forward" into stupid sin all they want. :rotf:
Oh, and by the way, Jesus said, "But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife..." Pretty clear.
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Have fun living your sexist, chauvinistic,judgemental, xenophobic, lifestyle choice. The rest of society will advance forward without you.
Considering I'm easily the most likely to agree with gay marriage and the like here (I never said I do), I find it amusing when people talk about the rest of society in regards to issues like this.
The fact is the overwhelming majority of society does not agree with gay marriage let alone being gay itself and that's not about to change. "The rest of society" either doesn't support it or does not care.
I guess you can't argue with a chart though...things that are never biased in any way. ::)
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Considering I'm easily the most likely to agree with gay marriage and the like here (I never said I do), I find it amusing when people talk about the rest of society in regards to issues like this.
The fact is the overwhelming majority of society does not agree with gay marriage let alone being gay itself and that's not about to change. "The rest of society" either doesn't support it or does not care.
I guess you can't argue with a chart though...things that are never biased in any way. ::)
I will admit, I'm against "gay marriage", I consider the term an oxymoron.
I have no problem with gay people, except the militant "in your face" DU types. They can all take a long walk of a short pier as far as I'm concerned. They do their "cause" no good whatsoever by acting like a runaway circus freak show.
Welcome back, guy! Long time, no see! :cheersmate:
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So Jesus never said a word about same sex marriage? Then explain this
Matthew 19:4-6
The complete lack of Biblical understanding in that graphic is utterly amazing. They got everything completely wrong. This was drawn up by someone who thinks they know the Bible based on goggling a topic and believing just the results that corresponded to a predetermined opinion.
The quote is very odd, So Jesus said haven't you Read, etc.
Now in that time few could read or write. Preaching to the great unwashed masses, the sinners, thieves and prostitutes, for him to ask such a question is outside belief. Just what did he, Jesus, believe his followers to have read ??? Did the population he ministered to all clutch a copy of the Old Testament under their arm ?
Since Jesus was still alive and kicking, I am sure the New Testament had not yet come out hot off the presses.
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The quote is very odd, So Jesus said haven't you Read, etc.
Now in that time few could read or write. Preaching to the great unwashed masses, the sinners, thieves and prostitutes, for him to ask such a question is outside belief. Just what did he, Jesus, believe his followers to have read ??? Did the population he ministered to all clutch a copy of the Old Testament under their arm ?
Since Jesus was still alive and kicking, I am sure the New Testament had not yet come out hot off the presses.
3 The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?
4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh.
Um, yeah, they could read Vesta. ::)
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It's weird how the chart cites the original Greek but the original Hebrew when it equates eating shellfish to homosexuality.
Why the duplicity, do you suppose?
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Um, yeah, they could read Vesta. ::)
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Boy! If God makes graphs of ones sinful life, I don't want to see mine.
Yep. I'm doomed.
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Sorry DUmmies, I don't believe in sin. I thing your faggotry is an a aberration to nature, and as such, it should be eradicated the way nature eradicates all of its mistakes....by extinction.
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Sorry DUmmies, I don't believe in sin. I thing your faggotry is an a aberration to nature, and as such, it should be eradicated the way nature eradicates all of its mistakes....by extinction.
It is an evolutionary dead end.
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The scribes could write, ostensibly that meant they could read, the pharisees could read, not necessarily would that attribute to them any writing skill. But just remember the typical good jew was given extensive OT teaching from the time they could talk. Reading, writing and speaking.
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Sexual perverts are a lot like non-poisonous snakes, they trigger some kind of instinctive revulsion in high percentage of humans.
No matter how many do-gooders tell us about snakes being beneficial, when a snake is spotted most of us immediately start looking for a hoe or a big stick.
Societal imperatives protect homosexuals from physical harm, but legislation has no effect on revulsion.
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Sexual perverts are a lot like non-poisonous snakes, they trigger some kind of instinctive revulsion in high percentage of humans.
No matter how many do-gooders tell us about snakes being beneficial, when a snake is spotted most of us immediately start looking for a hoe or a big stick.
Societal imperatives protect homosexuals from physical harm, but legislation has no effect on revulsion.
Amen. H5.
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Sexual perverts are a lot like non-poisonous snakes, they trigger some kind of instinctive revulsion in high percentage of humans.
No matter how many do-gooders tell us about snakes being beneficial, when a snake is spotted most of us immediately start looking for a hoe or a big stick.
Societal imperatives protect homosexuals from physical harm, but legislation has no effect on revulsion.
Which is exactly why they've decided they have to start with the youngest kids possible and teach them what homosexual sex is, and that it's good. Hence all the child-abusing homosexual laws passed in California.
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Sexual perverts are a lot like non-poisonous snakes, they trigger some kind of instinctive revulsion in high percentage of humans.
No matter how many do-gooders tell us about snakes being beneficial, when a snake is spotted most of us immediately start looking for a hoe or a big stick.
Societal imperatives protect homosexuals from physical harm, but legislation has no effect on revulsion.
When a do gooder tells me snakes are beneficial, I never begin looking for a prostitute.