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Title: Harkin Suggests Military Background Makes McCain Unfit to be Commander-in-Chief
Post by: Periwinkle on May 22, 2008, 11:30:58 AM
Hope this is the right forum, it's the lead story on FoxNews right now.

Harkin Suggests Military Background Makes McCain Unfit to be Commander-in-Chief (http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05/22/harkin-suggests-military-background-makes-mccain-unfit-to-be-commander-in-chief/)
by FOXNews.com
Thursday, May 22, 2008

Iowa Sen. Tom Harkin is catching grief for suggesting John McCain’s family history of military service makes the presumptive Republican presidential nominee unfit to be commander-in-chief.

Harkin, who has a history of embellishing his own military record, told Iowa reporters last week that McCain’s background as the son and grandson of Navy admirals creates a “dangerous” situation because he can only view the world through the prism of the military.

“He has a hard time thinking beyond that,” Harkin said, according to The Des Moines Register. “I think he’s trapped in that. Everything is looked at from his life experiences, from always having been in the military, and I think that can be pretty dangerous.”

The paper also quotes Iowa’s junior senator telling reporters, “It’s one thing to have been drafted and served, but another thing when you come from generations of military people and that’s just how you’re steeped, how you’ve learned, how you’ve grown up.”


WTF?  Am I the only one who veiws these comments a direct attack and insult to all American Military families?  May I be the first to say F%^& You Tom.[/font][/color]
Title: Re: Harkin Suggests Military Background Makes McCain Unfit to be Commander-in-Ch
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on May 22, 2008, 11:34:21 AM
Thanks for finding that article, Peri.  Harkin's moronic comments have been making the rounds for a few days, but I didn't have the time to find them.

Harkin is a disgrace to his office, not to mention a liar about his own military record.
Title: Re: Harkin Suggests Military Background Makes McCain Unfit to be Commander-in-Chief
Post by: Willow on May 22, 2008, 11:36:16 AM
typical Democrat whole ass!  :naughty:
Title: Re: Harkin Suggests Military Background Makes McCain Unfit to be Commander-in-Ch
Post by: Periwinkle on May 22, 2008, 11:41:07 AM
Thanks for finding that article, Peri.  Harkin's moronic comments have been making the rounds for a few days, but I didn't have the time to find them.

Harkin is a disgrace to his office, not to mention a liar about his own military record.

No problem, Ralph.  This is the first I've read about this and it infuriates me.   
Title: Re: Harkin Suggests Military Background Makes McCain Unfit to be Commander-in-Ch
Post by: Wretched Excess on May 22, 2008, 11:47:25 AM

has harkin had a stroke or something? :banghead: :censored: :bird: :mental:
Title: Re: Harkin Suggests Military Background Makes McCain Unfit to be Commander-in-Ch
Post by: TheSarge on May 22, 2008, 12:05:37 PM
I'm confused.

Harkin blasts President Bush for his alleged lack of military service...now he says McCain has too much?

Who the  :censored: is this guy?  Goldilocks?

I guess telling everyone you were a fighter jock when you were just a ferry pilot in the military is the "just right" balance of military service.
Title: Re: Harkin Suggests Military Background Makes McCain Unfit to be Commander-in-Ch
Post by: Rebel on May 22, 2008, 02:03:20 PM
He's a POS poser. We're documenting all of the attacks on McCain's military experience here (http://usmilnet.com/smf/index.php/topic,13026.0.html).
Title: Re: Harkin Suggests Military Background Makes McCain Unfit to be Commander-in-Ch
Post by: Airwolf on May 22, 2008, 04:12:25 PM

has harkin had a stroke or something? :banghead: :censored: :bird: :mental:

No. He'a always been an asshole. I have first hand knowledge of it and the familys had to experiance it.
Title: Re: Harkin Suggests Military Background Makes McCain Unfit to be Commander-in-Ch
Post by: Airwolf on May 22, 2008, 04:15:49 PM
I'm confused.

Harkin blasts President Bush for his alleged lack of military service...now he says McCain has too much?

Who the  :censored: is this guy?  Goldilocks?

I guess telling everyone you were a fighter jock when you were just a ferry pilot in the military is the "just right" balance of military service.

Tom Harkins only award for "His Combat experiance" was to only get one ribbon for The NAtional Defense Service Ribbon.

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_155912.html


In 1984, Sen. Barry Goldwater wrote to the Des Moines Register saying, "I have seen the Navy record of Mr. Harkin, which is in the public domain, and there's nothing to indicate he ever flew in combat, or even in Vietnam. In fact, the only decoration he lists is the National Defense Service Medal, which was awarded to everyone who served his country during a given period of time."



Title: Re: Harkin Suggests Military Background Makes McCain Unfit to be Commander-in-Ch
Post by: Lacarnut on May 22, 2008, 08:54:14 PM

has harkin had a stroke or something? :banghead: :censored: :bird: :mental:

Could be, Ya know dem Dummies like to put their heads together.
Title: Re: Harkin Suggests Military Background Makes McCain Unfit to be Commander-in-Ch
Post by: Wretched Excess on May 22, 2008, 09:00:40 PM

I don't think someone is allowed to be a democrat unless they, to use bill clinton's immortal phrase, "loathe the military".  they just avoid such lapses of immoderate honesty like the one harkin just suffered.

Title: Re: Harkin Suggests Military Background Makes McCain Unfit to be Commander-in-Ch
Post by: Airwolf on May 22, 2008, 09:50:52 PM

I don't think someone is allowed to be a democrat unless they, to use bill clinton's immortal phrase, "loathe the military".  they just avoid such lapses of immoderate honesty like the one harkin just suffered.



Except Harkin served long enough in the Navy to fill his contract as an officer then bailed as soon as he could to go into politics.
Title: Re: Harkin Suggests Military Background Makes McCain Unfit to be Commander-in-Ch
Post by: Rebel on May 22, 2008, 10:08:11 PM
Tom Harkins only award for "His Combat experiance" was to only get one ribbon for The National Defense Service Ribbon.

When I was in that was like the second Army Service Ribbon. I think I got mine as soon as I finished basic.

Harkin, you are no Tom in Tib.  :uhsure:
Title: Re: Harkin Suggests Military Background Makes McCain Unfit to be Commander-in-Ch
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on May 22, 2008, 10:41:13 PM
Tom Harkins only award for "His Combat experiance" was to only get one ribbon for The National Defense Service Ribbon.

When I was in that was like the second Army Service Ribbon. I think I got mine as soon as I finished basic.

Harkin, you are no Tom in Tib.  :uhsure:

Well, Tit-boy can claim to be the "Second most decorated enlisted sailor ever" (provably false, even if he had won the Navy Cross as he claims), but Harkin could probably claim to be the "Second least decorated US pilot ever."

 :rotf:   
Title: Re: Harkin Suggests Military Background Makes McCain Unfit to be Commander-in-Ch
Post by: Airwolf on May 22, 2008, 11:07:37 PM
Tom Harkins only award for "His Combat experiance" was to only get one ribbon for The National Defense Service Ribbon.

When I was in that was like the second Army Service Ribbon. I think I got mine as soon as I finished basic.

Harkin, you are no Tom in Tib.  :uhsure:

Well, Tit-boy can claim to be the "Second most decorated enlisted sailor ever" (provably false, even if he had won the Navy Cross as he claims), but Harkin could probably claim to be the "Second least decorated US pilot ever."

 :rotf:   

To my limited knowledge of flying for the Military. I would think that the last place any pilot would want to be is being relegated to the status of just flying jets to and from maintenance depots.
Title: Re: Harkin Suggests Military Background Makes McCain Unfit to be Commander-in-Ch
Post by: PatriotGame on May 22, 2008, 11:16:10 PM
Sounds to me that Harkin needs to have his treasonous neck stretched.
Title: Re: Harkin Suggests Military Background Makes McCain Unfit to be Commander-in-Ch
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on May 23, 2008, 06:16:44 AM
Tom Harkins only award for "His Combat experiance" was to only get one ribbon for The National Defense Service Ribbon.

When I was in that was like the second Army Service Ribbon. I think I got mine as soon as I finished basic.

Harkin, you are no Tom in Tib.  :uhsure:

Well, Tit-boy can claim to be the "Second most decorated enlisted sailor ever" (provably false, even if he had won the Navy Cross as he claims), but Harkin could probably claim to be the "Second least decorated US pilot ever."

 :rotf:   

To my limited knowledge of flying for the Military. I would think that the last place any pilot would want to be is being relegated to the status of just flying jets to and from maintenance depots.

It does sound like the short bus of military aviation, and is fraught with the possibility of your fellow pilots sticking you with a damning nickname like "Fairy Pilot."

 :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Harkin Suggests Military Background Makes McCain Unfit to be Commander-in-Ch
Post by: RGSG99 on May 23, 2008, 06:33:18 AM
WTF?  Am I the only one who veiws these comments a direct attack and insult to all American Military families?  May I be the first to say F%^& You Tom.

No...you are not wrong.   :bird: for Harkin.
Title: Re: Harkin Suggests Military Background Makes McCain Unfit to be Commander-in-Ch
Post by: Airwolf on May 23, 2008, 06:20:57 PM
Tom Harkins only award for "His Combat experiance" was to only get one ribbon for The National Defense Service Ribbon.

When I was in that was like the second Army Service Ribbon. I think I got mine as soon as I finished basic.

Harkin, you are no Tom in Tib.  :uhsure:

Well, Tit-boy can claim to be the "Second most decorated enlisted sailor ever" (provably false, even if he had won the Navy Cross as he claims), but Harkin could probably claim to be the "Second least decorated US pilot ever."

 :rotf:   

To my limited knowledge of flying for the Military. I would think that the last place any pilot would want to be is being relegated to the status of just flying jets to and from maintenance depots.

It does sound like the short bus of military aviation, and is fraught with the possibility of your fellow pilots sticking you with a damning nickname like "Fairy Pilot."

 :evillaugh:


Now that you mention it. I don't recall him ever giving the press any call sign given to hin or if they themselves even asked. So it probably came to be something like "Tinkerbell" or "Dumbass Liberal "
Title: Re: Harkin Suggests Military Background Makes McCain Unfit to be Commander-in-Ch
Post by: dandi on May 25, 2008, 06:26:50 PM
Dear Senator Harkin;
                            I have had family involved in every single conflict from the war for independence from Britain to our latest little scrape with the islamokazies.  I do believe, Senator, that your slight against Senator McCain for coming from a military family shows nothing more than absolute jealousy and treason.  Although I personally would not cross the street to piss on Senator McCain if he were on fire, I would probably go out of my way to throw a fresh copy of the New York Times on you if you were in the same predicament.

It is my personal opinion that having real military experience makes one infinitely more qualified for the office of President of The United States than your sorry ass or a former first bitch or even the magic negro rookie.

In closing I would recommend that the next time you have a thought, do us a favor and let it go.  It would be better for you to keep your mouth shut and let people think you are stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.

Sincerely,
             Wasp69 (USN)
Title: Re: Harkin Suggests Military Background Makes McCain Unfit to be Commander-in-Ch
Post by: Airwolf on May 25, 2008, 06:53:08 PM
Dear Senator Harkin;
                            I have had family involved in every single conflict from the war for independence from Britain to our latest little scrape with the islamokazies.  I do believe, Senator, that your slight against Senator McCain for coming from a military family shows nothing more than absolute jealousy and treason.  Although I personally would not cross the street to piss on Senator McCain if he were on fire, I would probably go out of my way to throw a fresh copy of the New York Times on you if you were in the same predicament.

It is my personal opinion that having real military experience makes one infinitely more qualified for the office of President of The United States than your sorry ass or a former first bitch or even the magic negro rookie.

In closing I would recommend that the next time you have a thought, do us a favor and let it go.  It would be better for you to keep your mouth shut and let people think you are stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.

Sincerely,
             Wasp69 (USN)

Hi5
Title: Re: Harkin Suggests Military Background Makes McCain Unfit to be Commander-in-Ch
Post by: NHSparky on May 26, 2008, 08:48:15 AM
Tom Harkins only award for "His Combat experiance" was to only get one ribbon for The National Defense Service Ribbon.

When I was in that was like the second Army Service Ribbon. I think I got mine as soon as I finished basic.

Harkin, you are no Tom in Tib.  :uhsure:

Well, Tit-boy can claim to be the "Second most decorated enlisted sailor ever" (provably false, even if he had won the Navy Cross as he claims), but Harkin could probably claim to be the "Second least decorated US pilot ever."

 :rotf:   

No, actually--he would be LEAST decorated ever.  Airdales tie their shoes and zip up their pants and they get Navy Achievement Medals.  What this tells me is that Harkin, at least while he was in the Navy (and as it appears, afterwards as well) one of the greatest cluster****s ever to grace a uniform.
Title: Re: Harkin Suggests Military Background Makes McCain Unfit to be Commander-in-Ch
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on May 26, 2008, 09:25:17 AM
Tom Harkins only award for "His Combat experiance" was to only get one ribbon for The National Defense Service Ribbon.

When I was in that was like the second Army Service Ribbon. I think I got mine as soon as I finished basic.

Harkin, you are no Tom in Tib.  :uhsure:

Well, Tit-boy can claim to be the "Second most decorated enlisted sailor ever" (provably false, even if he had won the Navy Cross as he claims), but Harkin could probably claim to be the "Second least decorated US pilot ever."

 :rotf:   

No, actually--he would be LEAST decorated ever.  Airdales tie their shoes and zip up their pants and they get Navy Achievement Medals.  What this tells me is that Harkin, at least while he was in the Navy (and as it appears, afterwards as well) one of the greatest cluster****s ever to grace a uniform.

Well, I was giving him a totally undeserved benefit of the doubt there, figuring there must be some ex-ensign somewhere living in a desert hippy commune that came up hot on a piss test the day after getting his 'Wings of Gold' and actually came out of the Navy with an NDSM and zip else (or not even that between '75 and '90).
Title: Re: Harkin Suggests Military Background Makes McCain Unfit to be Commander-in-Ch
Post by: Airwolf on May 26, 2008, 10:04:30 AM
Tom Harkins only award for "His Combat experience" was to only get one ribbon for The National Defense Service Ribbon.

When I was in that was like the second Army Service Ribbon. I think I got mine as soon as I finished basic.

Harkin, you are no Tom in Tib.  :uhsure:

Well, Tit-boy can claim to be the "Second most decorated enlisted sailor ever" (provably false, even if he had won the Navy Cross as he claims), but Harkin could probably claim to be the "Second least decorated US pilot ever."

 :rotf:   

No, actually--he would be LEAST decorated ever.  Airdales tie their shoes and zip up their pants and they get Navy Achievement Medals.  What this tells me is that Harkin, at least while he was in the Navy (and as it appears, afterwards as well) one of the greatest cluster****s ever to grace a uniform.

Well, I was giving him a totally undeserved benefit of the doubt there, figuring there must be some ex-ensign somewhere living in a desert hippy commune that came up hot on a piss test the day after getting his 'Wings of Gold' and actually came out of the Navy with an NDSM and zip else (or not even that between '75 and '90).

Speaking from a personal standpoint. Don't ever give Tom Harkin any kind of doubt. Only a splooge like him would do the things he has done and have no one hold him responsible. Take a good look at who is in this picture. Two of the worst Senators next to Fat Teddy trying to sell out the United State to the President of Nicaragua

(http://www.lyingleft.com/philmappe/01b.jpg)
Title: Re: Harkin Suggests Military Background Makes McCain Unfit to be Commander-in-Chief
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on May 26, 2008, 12:02:45 PM
Communists.  Man, do I hate Communists.
Title: Re: Harkin Suggests Military Background Makes McCain Unfit to be Commander-in-Chief
Post by: NHSparky on May 26, 2008, 08:09:49 PM
But nobody will ever call him on it.
Title: Re: Harkin Suggests Military Background Makes McCain Unfit to be Commander-in-Chief
Post by: Tess Anderson on May 27, 2008, 11:32:49 AM
I'm beginning to think that Tom Harkin has a big vendetta against Juan - he's doing and saying everything in his power to marginilize McCain, to drive home his point(s) that Juan is an unstable vet. Re his McNasty persona, the temp, Harkin said:

"It can be scary. Flying off the handle without discussing things with people, working things out … I’ve seen it a couple, three times here."

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/05/harkin-attacks.html

Well, maybe Juan needs to bitch-slap him again - I'll never forget the image of Harkin standing behind Howard Dean looking stupid as Dean lost it - Harkins is up for re-election, these latest stupid remarks of his have already backfired - several fence-sitters have already told me they didn't like this attack at all - Harkin is one of them that over-stated his own service in VietNam and got called on it.
Title: Re: Harkin Suggests Military Background Makes McCain Unfit to be Commander-in-Chief
Post by: Airwolf on May 27, 2008, 04:39:41 PM
I'm beginning to think that Tom Harkin has a big vendetta against Juan - he's doing and saying everything in his power to marginilize McCain, to drive home his point(s) that Juan is an unstable vet. Re his McNasty persona, the temp, Harkin said:

"It can be scary. Flying off the handle without discussing things with people, working things out … I’ve seen it a couple, three times here."

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/05/harkin-attacks.html

Well, maybe Juan needs to bitch-slap him again - I'll never forget the image of Harkin standing behind Howard Dean looking stupid as Dean lost it - Harkins is up for re-election, these latest stupid remarks of his have already backfired - several fence-sitters have already told me they didn't like this attack at all - Harkin is one of them that over-stated his own service in VietNam and got called on it.

Harkin should keep his pie hole shut. Problem is he can't. It's sad that there are some people in this great state that are so beholden to that jackhole for farm subsides that they would vote for SATAN himself if it meant more money for them.
Title: Re: Harkin Suggests Military Background Makes McCain Unfit to be Commander-in-Chief
Post by: Tess Anderson on May 27, 2008, 07:01:45 PM
That's true, airwolf, he does pander to all those farmers. But that stopped working for that other whiny MidWestern senator, Tom Daschelle, so I'm hoping the voters of Iowa shape up and vote this socialist out ASAP.
Title: Re: Harkin Suggests Military Background Makes McCain Unfit to be Commander-in-Chief
Post by: NHSparky on May 27, 2008, 07:29:25 PM
I wonder what Tom Harkin would have said of THESE "militaristic" former presidents:

--George Washington
--Andrew Jackson
--William Henry Harrison
--Zachary Taylor
--Ulysses S. Grant
--Rutherford B. Hayes
--James Garfield
--Benjamin Harrison
--Teddy Roosevelt
--Dwight D. Eisenhower

All of whom were general officers except for Roosevelt, who was a Colonel.

Additionally, another 13 held commissions.

Huh.  Guess ol Tom's talking out his ass again!