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Current Events => Breaking News => Topic started by: Ptarmigan on August 07, 2012, 03:55:17 PM
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Loughner pleads guilty to Arizona shooting, judge finds suspect competent to stand trial
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/08/07/suspect-in-tucson-shooting-pleads-guilty/
Loughner faces life in prison without the possibility of parole.
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I truly wish they would bring back the death penalty for people like this guy. Like firing squads, hanging, etc...Maybe horrific crime would go down some, if the consequences were more severe!!
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I truly wish they would bring back the death penalty for people like this guy. Like firing squads, hanging, etc...Maybe horrific crime would go down some, if the consequences were more severe!!
Arizona is a DP state. He Copped a Guilty plea to get LWOP
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I truly wish they would bring back the death penalty for people like this guy. Like firing squads, hanging, etc...Maybe horrific crime would go down some, if the consequences were more severe!!
Find him guilty, drag him into the town square, shoot him in the head, and let the buzzards/dogs/bugs have him.
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Arizona is a DP state. He Copped a Guilty plea to get LWOP
Exactly, I wish it wasn't true
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Find him guilty, drag him into the town square, shoot him in the head, and let the buzzards/dogs/bugs have him.
I wouldn't do that to any dog.
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I wouldn't do that to any dog.
Yeah, but he isn't a dog..He is a first rate asshole that needs to be exterminated!!
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Yeah, but he isn't a dog..He is a first rate asshole that needs to be exterminated!!
I meant that I would not let the dogs have him, it's cruel to the dogs.
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I meant that I would not let the dogs have him, it's cruel to the dogs.
oh I see...sorry!!!
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They should have him executed. And kill him the same way he murdered those innocent people.
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They should have him executed. And kill him the same way he murdered those innocent people.
I agree with that wholeheartedly!!
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I agree with that wholeheartedly!!
Yeah, my belief is that person who commits murder should be executed the same way he/she killed the victim. So if you run over someone with a tank, guess what is going to happen to you? If you put a stick of dynamite up someone's rectum and light it, guess what is going to happen to you? We have eye for an eye in this country. It is time to stop the 'Humane' executions and give the sentence to match the crime.
Heck I would be happy to see public hangings come back as well. I bet you would see the crime rate drop if that happen.
Some people are against the death penalty. I am for expanding it.........Put an express way in. Make me happy.
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. I am for expanding it.........Put an express way in. Make me happy.
We have an express lane in Texas.
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We have an express lane in Texas.
Yes, you do. And I applaud you for it. I like that new law down there. Three eye witnesses to the crime, and you are put in the front of the line. God Bless Texas.
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Yeah, my belief is that person who commits murder should be executed the same way he/she killed the victim. So if you run over someone with a tank, guess what is going to happen to you? If you put a stick of dynamite up someone's rectum and light it, guess what is going to happen to you? We have eye for an eye in this country. It is time to stop the 'Humane' executions and give the sentence to match the crime.
Heck I would be happy to see public hangings come back as well. I bet you would see the crime rate drop if that happen.
Some people are against the death penalty. I am for expanding it.........Put an express way in. Make me happy.
I agree..........All these libs and their humane issues!!! I mean this guy comes in kills a group of people, one of which is a little girl, and he gets life, which we, the tax payers have to pay for his upkeep?? I THINK NOT!!!
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I agree..........All these libs and their humane issues!!! I mean this guy comes in kills a group of people, one of which is a little girl, and he gets life, which we, the tax payers have to pay for his upkeep?? I THINK NOT!!!
Yep, try him; convict him, then take him out back and shoot him.
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I don't think you should be able to plea bargain on a first-degree murder charge. But that's just my opinion.
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Yeah, my belief is that person who commits murder should be executed the same way he/she killed the victim. So if you run over someone with a tank, guess what is going to happen to you? If you put a stick of dynamite up someone's rectum and light it, guess what is going to happen to you? We have eye for an eye in this country. It is time to stop the 'Humane' executions and give the sentence to match the crime.
Heck I would be happy to see public hangings come back as well. I bet you would see the crime rate drop if that happen.
Some people are against the death penalty. I am for expanding it.........Put an express way in. Make me happy.
I agree..........All these libs and their humane issues!!! I mean this guy comes in kills a group of people, one of which is a little girl, and he gets life, which we, the tax payers have to pay for his upkeep?? I THINK NOT!!!
I say execute the killer with nuclear radiation. :fuelfire:
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I don't think you should be able to plea bargain on a first-degree murder charge. But that's just my opinion.
I agree with that. Plea bargains are meant for lessor offense.
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I say execute the killer with nuclear radiation. :fuelfire:
It just frustrates me, that we pay so much into the upkeep of these criminals. It makes me ill!!!
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I don't think you should be able to plea bargain on a first-degree murder charge. But that's just my opinion.
You aren't the only one who thinks that.
It just frustrates me, that we pay so much into the upkeep of these criminals. It makes me ill!!!
I think the appeals process should be set to take maximum a year, with only one appeal in that time. 30 days after after you lose the appeal, the sentence is carried out. No more of these people sitting on death row for 20 years because they appeal every sentence.
I say one appeal because, yes, there are innocent people who are on death row. But with all the technology and science we have now. They should be able to clear him in that time. If he is indeed innocent.
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You aren't the only one who thinks that.
I think that way as well....
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Arizona is a DP state. He Copped a Guilty plea to get LWOP
This is only a plea to the federal charges. He still has 3 murder counts in state court.
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I agree with that. Plea bargains are meant for lessor offense.
No DP for LWOP not much of a plea bargain. It does save the state time and money of a trial and victims family & friends the angst of reliving the event.
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I don't care if he is looney as loon. He deserves to die. No one deserves to live if they kill people for NO reason. He has no value for society. He is just a bloodsucker on society. He deserves to die just like all the other nuts killing people in movie theaters and churches. I am tired of this insanity defense.
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Arizona is a DP state. He Copped a Guilty plea to get LWOP
And it would be my guess that the reason why they offered him a plea deal was the uncertainty involved regarding Loughner's schizophrenia.
It's still an issue for the defense.
The authorities had to force-feed Loughner medication to treat his diagnosed schizophrenia since he's been remanded. While the judge ruled him competent to stand trial, that doesn't mean that the defense wouldn't have pointed to Loughner's condition in an effort to get him exonerated.
Don't laugh -- it happens.
Unfortunately, the taxpayer is stuck with feeding, clothing, housing, and medically treating this scumbag for decades to come.
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I wonder if he is going to the Supermax Prison in Colorado. Ted Kaczynski pleaded guilty and ended up in the Supermax Prison.
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I wonder if he is going to the Supermax Prison in Colorado. Ted Kaczynski pleaded guilty and ended up in the Supermax Prison.
Ted Kaczynski was charged in federal court, and thus went to a FEDERAL supermax. This turd was charged in Arizona state/Pima county court, and is just gonna wind up dying of old age in Florence, AZ.
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Ted Kaczynski was charged in federal court, and thus went to a FEDERAL supermax. This turd was charged in Arizona state/Pima county court, and is just gonna wind up dying of old age in Florence, AZ.
I thought Loughner was facing federal charges first because he killed Judge John Roll.
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I thought Loughner was facing federal charges first because he killed Judge John Roll.
He also shot a government official. I would think that falls under federal jurisdiction?
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He also shot a government official. I would think that falls under federal jurisdiction?
The plea came soon after a federal judge had found that months of forcibly medicating Loughner to treat his schizophrenia had made the 23-year-old college dropout competent to understand the gravity of the charges against him and assist in his defense.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/08/07/suspect-in-tucson-shooting-pleads-guilty/#ixzz22yTr5pek
I take it all back. He WILL be headed to a federal "pound you in the ass" prison.
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I take it all back. He WILL be headed to a federal "pound you in the ass" prison.
They will keep him in solitary the whole time he is there. Maybe be nice and let him for an hour a day, which he will be guarded and not allowed around anyone, and/or anyone around him. Heck, he will probably never know who his next door cellmate is.
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I'm pretty sure that he still has to face the state charges.
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He also shot a government official. I would think that falls under federal jurisdiction?
This article says the guilty plea was heard in U.S. Federal District Court in Tucson. And the article points toward Loughner's mental illness as being a factor in the government's decision to plea bargain.
NY Slimes (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/06/us/guilty-plea-expected-in-tucson-shooting-rampage.html)
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I'm pretty sure that he still has to face the state charges.
Not sure how that works, but yeah, I would think so.
If the state condemns him to death and the trial succeeds with that being the penalty, how does that stack up against the feds' plea bargain? I hope DAT can weigh in on this.
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Not sure how that works, but yeah, I would think so.
If the state condemns him to death and the trial succeeds with that being the penalty, how does that stack up against the feds' plea bargain? I hope DAT can weigh in on this.
I will have to ask a lawyer friend of mine, but I am guessing that the fed's take precedence.
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I will have to ask a lawyer friend of mine, but I am guessing that the fed's take precedence.
With the DP in the works be interesting to see how it works. I do know of a couple cases where guys are doing state time then they will do fed time afterwords.
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This article says the guilty plea was heard in U.S. Federal District Court in Tucson. And the article points toward Loughner's mental illness as being a factor in the government's decision to plea bargain.
NY Slimes (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/06/us/guilty-plea-expected-in-tucson-shooting-rampage.html)
All the news that's fit to chintz.
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With the DP in the works be interesting to see how it works. I do know of a couple cases where guys are doing state time then they will do fed time afterwords.
I've heard of that also, but it was only in cases where the state gave them a lesser sentence than the feds gave them. Like ten years for the state, and life for the feds; or something like that. What could happen is that the state could convict him of something smaller and give him a couple of years there, then the feds will convict him of murder and give him life or death row, at which point he will serve that out in a fed prison. I will have to ask a lawyer friend of mine, though. It is all confusing for me.