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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on May 22, 2008, 06:59:16 AM
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Oh my.
Here it is, muddyemms:
edwardlindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed May-21-08 11:19 AM
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Kenyans burn alive 11 'witches'
Eleven women accused of being witches have been burned to death by a mob in the west of Kenya, police say.
A security operation has been launched to hunt down villagers suspected of killing the women in Kisii District.
The area has witnessed similar attacks in the past when people suspected of engaging in witchcraft have been killed or ostracised.
But correspondents say that this is a surprisingly large number of people to be attacked at the same time.
Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7413268.stm
saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed May-21-08 12:37 PM
Response to Reply #1
17. Jeb Bush used to do it with FLORIDA'S ELECTRIC CHAIR
After one particularly gruesome execution, a "LIBERAL" Judge remarked the photos were akin to what it was like, being "Burned at the stake"
Jeb on the other hand ran into his office after viewing the photos and Masturbated vigorously.
mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed May-21-08 11:34 AM
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6. Did the villagers see the documentary on Jesus camp?
I swear I heard a bunch of kids say they couldn't see or read Harry Potter because that was witch craft and god didn't want them to suffer a witch in their midsts. Whatever the hell that means.
Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed May-21-08 11:38 AM
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8. It means when mainstream voices don't shout down the crazies horrible things will start to happen in any culture.
We here in the mainstream are trying, warped primitive, but thus far Skins's island survives.
mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed May-21-08 11:46 AM
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10. Jesus camp was on last night on the Bio station so I and the SO watched it. SO who I been with for 5 years has never said much about religion in her life, heck I don't even know if she had been baptized or what brand of religion she is. Anyhow, about 1/2 way though the thing SO looked like she was going to puke and she kept yelling at the TV the kids were being abused. By the end of it the SO wanted to go after the crazy woman who run the camp.
noonwitch (1000+ posts) Wed May-21-08 02:04 PM
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25. It was on the Biography channel last night.
It's a good movie. I thought that Becky was a truly talented woman who knows how to relate to kids, and is creative in her approach to coming up with activities for them. It is so unfortunate that her religious beliefs have made her crazy, because she would be an excellent teacher, otherwise.
It's funny to look at the kids' faces during the scenes where they are speaking in tongues and testifying-you can tell the kids who are there because their parents made them go from the true believers.
But for all you guys out there that worry about them being brainwashed, keep this in mind: Evangelical colleges are expensive. State colleges are not as expensive. Most of the parents aren't going to be able to afford to send them to private colleges, so once those kids enroll at MSU or whatever public university they choose, they will get a chance to learn other perspectives.
mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed May-21-08 03:39 PM
Response to Reply #25
27. I knew a guy that was first home schooled, then later entered a Baptists school, then went on to a Baptist college. His first and only real job, he now does odd jobs for family and friends to eek out a living of sorts, was a 7/11 clerk. I felt sorry for him because he had a complete lack of street smarts.
He got with a young lady that told him she was a good christian, who then took most of his pay checks, ( he knew she was a good christian because she wasn't putting out to him ), and the whole time she was sleeping with 5 or 6 other guys spending his money on them, he caught her on a day off.
A year after he started working for 7/11 he got fired after the top 7/11 execs found out the franchise owner of the store was pocketing most of the stores sells, it made them wonder when the store went from making almost $50,000.00 a month down to $900 a month in a 6 month period. They also charged 3 of the 6 clerks with theft, my friend got out because he turned against the owner and told the execs that he saw the owner coming in at 3 and 4 in the morning to take money out of the store safe, the owner got 6 years for his theft, my friend was charged as an accessory but charges were dropped for his testimony.
Even to this day he walks around lost and confused because everything that he was taught by the schools didn't prepare him for the worlds realities. It didn't help that while going through all the legal stuff mom and dad being the good christians they were threw him out of their home because he was tainted by the heathens because he got into trouble with the law. Never mind that not once did he steal or do anything wrong himself, the family name got brought up in court.
All of this stuff is still on his work record so he isn't able to find any place to hire him.
Uh, aren't we getting sort of off-topic here? What about the burned witches in Kenya?
mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu May-22-08 12:16 AM
Response to Reply #27
33. They raise religiously insane children who can't deal with life since they've been so protected.
Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed May-21-08 01:54 PM
Response to Reply #9
24. You can't blame Christianity for this
There are beliefs in black magic throughout the world, even in areas (like Nepal), which have almost no Christian influence.
Besides, by the time the missionaries arrived in Africa, Christianity had given up going after witches.
Spouting Horn (8 posts) Wed May-21-08 11:14 PM
Response to Reply #24
29. It's generally in Islamic countries in which witches are dealt with severely.
Sorcery and Witchcraft is an officially sanctioned death sentence in Saudi Arabia (and unofficially in mny more countries).
mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu May-22-08 12:07 AM
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30. The old Catholic church used to burn women (witches) to prevent them from doing medical cures, etc.(heralists). They wanted the power for themselves. Just think of the medical cures which went up in smoke? Over many years many died yet the church has not apologized for that deed like they did regarding their support of Hitler.
The witch burning is just a scare tactic against those women telling about the exual abuse, etc.
Oh my. The big mac primitive knows history like franksolich knows nuclear engineering.
Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu May-22-08 12:35 AM
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34. 　Yes, but my point was that missionary activity in Kenya occurred AFTER
Christians had stopped having witch hunts and that many non-Christian ethnic groups around the world believe that certain people have evil magical powers.
vinylsolution (38 posts) Wed May-21-08 12:02 PM
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13. A return to the Dark Ages....
This is what James Dobson, Pat Robertson et al dream of.....
But it's no laughing matter. You have to wonder what McCain thinks about it?
kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed May-21-08 12:03 PM
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14. That's unimaginably horrible.
Those poor women.
shrike (1000+ posts) Wed May-21-08 03:23 PM
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26. People don't have to be Christians to burn witches
Many indigenous tribes, even those who were basically deist, believed in witches, sorcerers, evildoers, evil eye, evil spirits, etc.
Thought I'd point that out, since the usual "Jesus is the root of all evil" posting will probably start.
Too late, shrieking primitive; it already started, way back at the beginning of this bonfire.
mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu May-22-08 12:09 AM
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31. All in the name of "security". Where have we heard this before. Are they after diamonds or what?
Ah, man. The big mac primitive's just being stupid, on purpose.
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DUmmie/mode/on ....Just think. All those hands and healing white light....up in smoke. DUmmie/mode/off
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If DU were the "mainstream" in this country, I would have gotten the hell out of Dodge years ago.
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A year after he started working for 7/11 he got fired after the top 7/11 execs found out the franchise owner of the store was pocketing most of the stores sells, it made them wonder when the store went from making almost $50,000.00 a month down to $900 a month in a 6 month period. They also charged 3 of the 6 clerks with theft, my friend got out because he turned against the owner and told the execs that he saw the owner coming in at 3 and 4 in the morning to take money out of the store safe, the owner got 6 years for his theft, my friend was charged as an accessory but charges were dropped for his testimony.
um....BULLSHIT!!!! No way in HELL that coulda happened. I worked at 7-11, was ass't manager for a number of years. Again...NO WAY is this possible.
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Frank... I think that you and I can agree that there are quite a few people on that thread in serious need of a bowel movement.
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Burning innocent women = killing convicted murderers. What planet do these people live on?
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Frank... I think that you and I can agree that there are quite a few people on that thread in serious need of a bowel movement.
It needs to be assisted with an enema--administered with a high-volume firehose. At somewhere north of 3000 psi.
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed May-21-08 11:46 AM
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10. Jesus camp was on last night on the Bio station so I and the SO watched it. SO who I been with for 5 years has never said much about religion in her life, heck I don't even know if she had been baptized or what brand of religion she is. Anyhow, about 1/2 way though the thing SO looked like she was going to puke and she kept yelling at the TV the kids were being abused. By the end of it the SO wanted to go after the crazy woman who run the camp.
franksolich brought on this thread on CC so I and others read it. Others and I who read it here has got dumber just because this was read no matter what our religion brand is. Anyhow, about .5 way through the OP most of CC was ready to puke and CC kept mocking the thread the our brains were being abused. By the end of it the CC wanted to go after the crazy skinner who run the DU.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v604/woncothesane/grammar-crisis-room.jpg)
---> RS takes deep breath, screams, feels slightly better. :p
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A year after he started working for 7/11 he got fired after the top 7/11 execs found out the franchise owner of the store was pocketing most of the stores sells, it made them wonder when the store went from making almost $50,000.00 a month down to $900 a month in a 6 month period. They also charged 3 of the 6 clerks with theft, my friend got out because he turned against the owner and told the execs that he saw the owner coming in at 3 and 4 in the morning to take money out of the store safe, the owner got 6 years for his theft, my friend was charged as an accessory but charges were dropped for his testimony.
um....BULLSHIT!!!! No way in HELL that coulda happened. I worked at 7-11, was ass't manager for a number of years. Again...NO WAY is this possible.
Not to mention the obvious...if the kid went to a Baptist college and graduated, he has a wonderful education and could get a job just about anywhere. Bouncy, bouncy, bouncy... :lmao:
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A year after he started working for 7/11 he got fired after the top 7/11 execs found out the franchise owner of the store was pocketing most of the stores sells, it made them wonder when the store went from making almost $50,000.00 a month down to $900 a month in a 6 month period. They also charged 3 of the 6 clerks with theft, my friend got out because he turned against the owner and told the execs that he saw the owner coming in at 3 and 4 in the morning to take money out of the store safe, the owner got 6 years for his theft, my friend was charged as an accessory but charges were dropped for his testimony.
um....BULLSHIT!!!! No way in HELL that coulda happened. I worked at 7-11, was ass't manager for a number of years. Again...NO WAY is this possible.
Not to mention the obvious...if the kid went to a Baptist college and graduated, he has a wonderful education and could get a job just about anywhere. Bouncy, bouncy, bouncy... :lmao:
Negative bongs for that bouncy.
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed May-21-08 11:46 AM
Response to Reply #8
10. Jesus camp was on last night on the Bio station so I and the SO watched it. SO who I been with for 5 years has never said much about religion in her life, heck I don't even know if she had been baptized or what brand of religion she is. Anyhow, about 1/2 way though the thing SO looked like she was going to puke and she kept yelling at the TV the kids were being abused. By the end of it the SO wanted to go after the crazy woman who run the camp.
franksolich brought on this thread on CC so I and others read it. Others and I who read it here has got dumber just because this was read no matter what our religion brand is. Anyhow, about .5 way through the OP most of CC was ready to puke and CC kept mocking the thread the our brains were being abused. By the end of it the CC wanted to go after the crazy skinner who run the DU.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v604/woncothesane/grammar-crisis-room.jpg)
---> RS takes deep breath, screams, feels slightly better. :p
Oh...wait a minute! SO is significant Other, like boyfriend/girlfriend, right?
SO (er...not significant other), maybe when they are starting bouncy tails that start out:
SO, blaa blaa blaa,
they are really saying:
SO (significant Other), blaa blaa blaa.
SO, (er...not Significant Other) what do you think?
:banghead:
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed May-21-08 03:39 PM
Response to Reply #25
27. I knew a guy that was first home schooled, then later entered a Baptists school, then went on to a Baptist college. His first and only real job, he now does odd jobs for family and friends to eek out a living of sorts, was a 7/11 clerk. I felt sorry for him because he had a complete lack of street smarts.
He got with a young lady that told him she was a good christian, who then took most of his pay checks, ( he knew she was a good christian because she wasn't putting out to him ), and the whole time she was sleeping with 5 or 6 other guys spending his money on them, he caught her on a day off.
A year after he started working for 7/11 he got fired after the top 7/11 execs found out the franchise owner of the store was pocketing most of the stores sells, it made them wonder when the store went from making almost $50,000.00 a month down to $900 a month in a 6 month period. They also charged 3 of the 6 clerks with theft, my friend got out because he turned against the owner and told the execs that he saw the owner coming in at 3 and 4 in the morning to take money out of the store safe, the owner got 6 years for his theft, my friend was charged as an accessory but charges were dropped for his testimony.
Even to this day he walks around lost and confused because everything that he was taught by the schools didn't prepare him for the worlds realities. It didn't help that while going through all the legal stuff mom and dad being the good christians they were threw him out of their home because he was tainted by the heathens because he got into trouble with the law. Never mind that not once did he steal or do anything wrong himself, the family name got brought up in court.
All of this stuff is still on his work record so he isn't able to find any place to hire him.
bouncebouncebounce
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I was surprised to not see an insightful Christian bashing post from The Neutered One (TNO) on this topic. :-)
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I was surprised to not see an insightful Christian bashing post from The Neutered One (TNO) on this topic. :-)
The nocturnally foul one's all tied up tripping all over himself in another thread.
I'm still suspecting the swindling primitive on Skins's island is the nocturnally foul one's mole over there; the primitive who sees no difference between advocating murder, and suggesting one is uncomfortable with something.