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Title: Just so you know what those hate sandwiches at the Chick-fil-A funded
Post by: CactusCarlos on August 02, 2012, 03:52:26 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021062406

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Playinghardball (2,557 posts)

Just so you know what those hate sandwiches at the Chick-fil-A funded

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Title: Re: Just so you know what those hate sandwiches at the Chick-fil-A funded
Post by: Revolution on August 02, 2012, 04:09:28 PM
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Dkc05 (36 posts)

2. Can we Ban Chick Fil A with Obama Health care. Its unhealthy.

I hope Obama takes a stand and bans companies like this in the 2nd term as their food is unhealthy and tastes like crap.

Yeah, that'd be unconstitutional. As are portions of Obamacare, but we'll have to find that out in 2014, huh, DUmmie?

Fishing for DUmp cred isn't going to work so well when there's already a thread about dropping the Chick-Fil-A thing. You're just going to bring heat upon yourself.

He could do it if you want him impeached though. I say go for it!
Title: Re: Just so you know what those hate sandwiches at the Chick-fil-A funded
Post by: BEG on August 02, 2012, 04:12:15 PM
So?
Title: Re: Just so you know what those hate sandwiches at the Chick-fil-A funded
Post by: CactusCarlos on August 02, 2012, 04:14:27 PM
So?

I said that also when I first saw this.  

I started looking into some of the claims - I'm having a hard time finding where Focus on the Family said anything about opposing efforts to reduce gay bullying.  I'm wondering if the rest of the bullets are lies also.  :???:
Title: Re: Just so you know what those hate sandwiches at the Chick-fil-A funded
Post by: Splashdown on August 02, 2012, 04:18:38 PM
The owner of Ben and Jerry's supports the efforts to release cop killer Mumia Abu Jamal.
Title: Re: Just so you know what those hate sandwiches at the Chick-fil-A funded
Post by: Undies on August 02, 2012, 04:22:30 PM
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Playinghardball (2,557 posts)

Just so you know what those hate sandwiches at the Chick-fil-A funded

(snip)

Thanks!  I'm proud to know it isn't going to waste.
Title: Re: Just so you know what those hate sandwiches at the Chick-fil-A funded
Post by: CactusCarlos on August 02, 2012, 04:23:06 PM
Okay found it - interesting

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/08/focus_on_the_family_dont_let_gay_activists_hijack.php?ref=fpb

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Focus On The Family: Anti-Bullying Efforts Are A Gay Front

ERIC LACH AUGUST 31, 2010, 9:59 AM  31926
Focus on the Family has a message for gay rights activists: stay off the playground.

Candi Cushman, an education analyst for the James Dobson-founded group, told The Denver Post this weekend that gay rights advocates have inserted their agenda into anti-bullying efforts, at the expense of Christian values.

“We feel more and more that activists are being deceptive in using anti-bullying rhetoric to introduce their viewpoints, while the viewpoint of Christian students and parents are increasingly belittled,” Cushman told the Post.

In an email to TPM, Cushman expanded her argument. “Listing certain categories creates a system ripe for reverse discrimination, sending the message that certain characteristics are more worthy of protection than others,” she said.

Cushman’s argument has two levels: first, she says anti-bullying efforts wrongly put the focus on the “characteristics of the victim” instead of the “wrong actions of the bullies.” Second, she thinks that gay rights activists are using the whole issue to sneak their agenda into the nation’s schools. She denounced the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network (GLSEN).

“In many cases, these politicized bullying policies are being used as tools to undermine parental rights,” she said, “and censor or marginalize students and parents with differing viewpoints.”

Cushman cited a “back to school guide” published by GLSEN and books titled Two Moms, the Zark and Me and The Full Spectrum as examples of GLSEN’s tactics in action.

“I could give you many more examples of how this reverse discrimination is playing out in books, curriculum and schoolwide initiatives, all promoted in the name of ‘tolerance’ and ‘anti-bullying,’” Cushman said.

According to the Post, about 30 percent of sixth- to 10th-graders in the U.S. report being involved in bullying, either as a victim or bully.

Late Update: Eliza Byard, GLSEN Executive Director, sent the following statement to TPM in response to Cushman’s comments:
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Focus on the Family has tried to discredit GLSEN’s efforts to make schools safe for all students since our founding in 1990. These most recent attempts show that, once again, Focus on the Family either doesn’t know what it is talking about or simply don’t care about addressing bullying, or both. The policies we support - which, by the way, include protections for bullying based on religion - have been shown by years of research to make a difference in young people’s lives. That is why nearly 70 national education, youth service and civil and human rights organizations endorse the Safe Schools Improvement Act. In terms of LGBT youth, we certainly hope that Focus on the Family agrees that the current environment in which nearly 9 out of 10 LGBT students experience harassment each year in school is simply unacceptable. But we won’t hold our breath
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Sounds reasonable - why not champion for anti-bullying period?  Why the concern just for anti-gay bullying?
Title: Re: Just so you know what those hate sandwiches at the Chick-fil-A funded
Post by: GOBUCKS on August 02, 2012, 04:23:24 PM
The owner of Ben and Jerry's supports the efforts to release cop killer Mumia Abu Jamal.
So does Omaha Police Department employee, flunky, and all around gofer Steve Dawes.

I wonder if that news has filtered down to the rank and file yet.
Title: Re: Just so you know what those hate sandwiches at the Chick-fil-A funded
Post by: Splashdown on August 02, 2012, 04:28:53 PM
So does Omaha Police Department employee, flunky, and all around gofer Steve Dawes.

I wonder if that news has filtered down to the rank and file yet.

Yikes! I hope the Omaha police don't find out that their newest employee is a fan of a copkiller!
Title: [Exodus International] Supported the "Kill the Gays" bill in Uganda
Post by: CactusCarlos on August 02, 2012, 04:59:43 PM
[Exodus International] Supported the "Kill the Gays" bill in Uganda

The graphic is incorrect - it was the Family Research Council that was falsely accused of this

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-now/2010/06/family_research_council_explai.html

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Family Research Council explains: It lobbied for changes to Uganda resolution

Family Research Council spokesman J.P. Duffy has issued a statement on the "inaccurate internet reports" -- mine was here -- on the conservative group's stance on a resolution condemning an anti-gay bill in Uganda. FRC, said Duffy, does not support Uganda's bill -- although I don't know who said it did. Instead:

FRC's efforts, at the request of Congressional offices, were limited to seeking changes in the language of proposed drafts of the resolution, in order to make it more factually accurate regarding the content of the Uganda bill, and to remove sweeping and inaccurate assertions that homosexual conduct is internationally recognized as a fundamental human right.

As I noted, the Democrat-authored resolution made several blanket statements about the universal rights of sexual preference. The FRC lobbied to take those out, something completely in line with what its membership would expect.

The full statement:
Inaccurate internet reports have been circulating indicating that the Family Research Council lobbied "against" a congressional resolution condemning a bill proposed in Uganda. The Uganda bill would have provided for the death penalty for something called "aggravated homosexuality." Unfortunately, those spreading these false rumors deliberately failed to obtain the facts first.

FRC did not lobby against or oppose passage of the congressional resolution. FRC's efforts, at the request of Congressional offices, were limited to seeking changes in the language of proposed drafts of the resolution, in order to make it more factually accurate regarding the content of the Uganda bill, and to remove sweeping and inaccurate assertions that homosexual conduct is internationally recognized as a fundamental human right.

FRC does not support the Uganda bill, and does not support the death penalty for homosexuality -- nor any other penalty which would have the effect of inhibiting compassionate pastoral, psychological and medical care and treatment for those who experience same-sex attractions or who engage in homosexual conduct.

By David Weigel  |  June 4, 2010; 1:58 PM ET
Categories:  Gay
Title: Re: Re: Just so you know what those hate sandwiches at the Chick-fil-A funded
Post by: DLR Pyro on August 02, 2012, 05:05:10 PM
Good. Makes me feel even better about going to CFA for lunch today.
Title: Re: Just so you know what those hate sandwiches at the Chick-fil-A funded
Post by: Duke Nukum on August 02, 2012, 05:11:43 PM
Dear DUmmies,

It is their money.  Who cares?

0bama blew taxpayer money on several unicorn factories that took the money and went belly up trying to get the unicorns to shit skittles for you all.

And did you even thank we, the tax payer, who are forced to fund this insanity?

No, you just ask for more and more.

You are sick, DUmmies. Marxism is a cancer of the mind that you do to yourself.
Title: Re: Just so you know what those hate sandwiches at the Chick-fil-A funded
Post by: miskie on August 02, 2012, 05:28:29 PM
The owner of Ben and Jerry's supports the efforts to release cop killer Mumia Abu Jamal.

Honestly -

Every company will use its profits to fund things that one may support or oppose. In all likelihood, most companies are doing both at the same time. In many ways, this whole Chick-Fil-A thing mirrors several conservatives getting incensed over the American Girl doll company- when in 2005 or so, it was revealed that one of the charities AG gives to donates some of its profits to Planned Parenthood, or something to that effect. (I'm sure the exact details can be found on the intertubes still). Conservatives protested, some decided to no longer support the company, and that was that.

The only difference is that this Chick-Fil-A protest has been cranked up to 11- As always, the liberals are overplaying their hand.

In the end, the marketplace will determine the effect corporate politics have on the bottom line. If the companies policies are so egregious and offensive, that the company crashes & burns, so be it. But in the case of Chick-Fil-A - as was the case with American Girl - there will be virtually no effect in the end. As long as both companies continue to produce a product that people are willing to pay for, they will continue to succeed - As will nearly any other company targeted by the left or right.
Title: Re: Just so you know what those hate sandwiches at the Chick-fil-A funded
Post by: Mr Mannn on August 02, 2012, 05:36:14 PM
DUmmie logic. Any perfectly legal organization opposed to the progressive agenda is a hate organization.

anyone not voting for Obama is a racist.
all who disagree with democrats are racist.
Diversity of thought is not diverse but evil.

I wonder if they will ever see just how shallow they were.