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Title: Radicalizing the Military
Post by: txradioguy on July 31, 2012, 02:31:15 PM
The Obama administration continues its assault on America’s conservative institutions. Having gone after religious organizations, it is focusing on the military, attempting to radicalize the armed forces in ways that would have been unthinkable only a short time ago.

Last month, the Pentagon itself hosted, and broadcast to American military bases around the world, a conference celebrating LGBT Pride Month. And a week ago — in an unprecedented move that goes against long-established military protocol — the Pentagon gave permission to servicemen and -women to march in uniform in the San Diego LGBT Pride parade. Soldiers who marched in the parade were also invited to an Official Pride Military Party with the men of Dirty Tony, a group of pornographic filmmakers.

A Department of Defense directive of 2008, which has never been rescinded, makes it clear that members of the U.S. military are not to be seen in uniform endorsing political causes. In fact, whether in uniform or not, they are to avoid any appearance of endorsing partisan causes as representatives of the armed forces, rather than as private citizens. Specifically germane to the San Diego parade, American soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines are not to “march or ride in a partisan political parade.”

Senator James Inhofe picked up on the DoD’s flouting of its own directive. In a pointed letter to Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta, the senator stated that the directives and regulations forbidding American military personnel to endorse partisan causes are “unambiguous and straight forward with the intent of preserving the military’s apolitical stance. This apolitical stance has served our military well and earned the respect of not just Americans but nations around the world as being a professional organization, set aside from politics and agendas.”
Precisely.

The DOD may wish to portray the gay-pride parade as merely a community event, but, as the furor over the parading uniformed troops grows,  the NavyTimesPrime reports that the Pentagon is “reviewing its policies on whether gay pride parades qualify as political events that are off limits to troops in uniform.”

The fact of the matter is that the LGBT movement is inherently political. It has an express political agenda it is working hard to achieve, including same-sex marriage. Therefore, it is a good thing that the Pentagon has not irrevocably decided that allowing military personnel to march in a gay-pride parade is the equivalent of allowing them to participate in the Tournament of Roses.

While the Pentagon mulls over the explosive effect of giving American troops permission to ignore its own explicit directives, it should be thinking over other consequences of allowing military personnel to march in uniform in an openly partisan parade.

For far more than a single injurious precedent has been set. The San Diego incident indicates that the ethics of military institutions are in danger of collapsing under pressure from a radicalized administration. What amounts to gay liberation theology is being used as a powerful weapon to force the military to accede to the LGBT movement’s political demands.

America has always honored the distinction between the military and civic society for good reason. While there is inevitable overlapping of the two, each has maintained its own individual characteristics, standards, and protocols. Erasure of the distinctions would result in either civilianizing or militarizing all of American society. Civilianization would make America like Europe. Militarization would make our country over into a banana republic.

Keeping military institutions apart from civilian life is an attempt to insulate the military from political forces. It is not just odious organizations like the Ku Klux Klan that American military personnel are not allowed to publicly support. They also may not actively participate — give a speech, carry a placard, conduct a survey — in the political campaign of a candidate belonging to a mainstream party.

The armed forces of the United States have one express reason for their existence, namely, the protection of America from her enemies. That raison d’être transcends any particular political agenda. America’s army, navy, air force, and marines exist to fight the enemies of all Americans, not to promote the agenda of any particular group, be it the LGBT movement or the Christian Coalition.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/312682/radicalizing-military-fay-voshell
Title: Re: Radicalizing the Military
Post by: CG6468 on July 31, 2012, 02:33:12 PM
How about a hetrosexual pride parade?
Title: Re: Radicalizing the Military
Post by: txradioguy on July 31, 2012, 02:36:01 PM
How about a hetrosexual pride parade?

That's homophobic! [/DU]
Title: Re: Radicalizing the Military
Post by: txradioguy on July 31, 2012, 02:45:32 PM
The fact of the matter is that while uniformed troops were allowed to march in a gay-pride parade, military personnel of faith are denied the privilege of wearing their uniform while speaking in church, as Scotty Smiley, the author of Hope Unseen, can attest. Smiley, who was completely blinded by a suicide bomber in Iraq, stayed on active duty and is still on active duty. He tells his story to rapt congregations. But he is not allowed to wear his uniform. It’s all about regulations, you see. In a “thee but not me” double standard, regulations are for Smiley, but not for marchers in a gay-pride parade.
Title: Re: Radicalizing the Military
Post by: Ptarmigan on July 31, 2012, 02:55:59 PM
The irony is that the DUmmies have sided with groups that are violently anti-gay (Islamists and Communists).
Title: Re: Radicalizing the Military
Post by: thundley4 on July 31, 2012, 02:57:46 PM
I didn't like Panetta being named as Sec Def from the very beginning.   He seemed too much like a strictly political appointee instead of someone appointed for their knowledge of the military and international affairs.
Title: Re: Radicalizing the Military
Post by: Ptarmigan on July 31, 2012, 02:58:54 PM
I didn't like Panetta being named as Sec Def from the very beginning.   He seemed too much like a strictly political appointee instead of someone appointed for their knowledge of the military and international affairs.

Same here.
Title: Re: Radicalizing the Military
Post by: obumazombie on July 31, 2012, 03:13:56 PM
Same here.
My sentiments as well.
Title: Re: Radicalizing the Military
Post by: CG6468 on August 01, 2012, 08:23:15 AM
My sentiments as well.

Me too.
Title: Re: Radicalizing the Military
Post by: JohnnyReb on August 01, 2012, 08:30:06 AM
Me too.

I too have a dislike for Pinheader.
Title: Re: Radicalizing the Military
Post by: NHSparky on August 01, 2012, 08:32:17 AM
Look at his record and statements regarding the military when he was a member of Congress.  Now having read/seen that, is anyone here really surprised?
Title: Re: Radicalizing the Military
Post by: CG6468 on August 01, 2012, 08:34:02 AM
Look at his record and statements regarding the military when he was a member of Congress.  Now having read/seen that, is anyone here really surprised?

I knew that about him way, way before he was even nominated. He's a liar, a coward, and fully anti-American.
Title: Re: Radicalizing the Military
Post by: vesta111 on August 02, 2012, 07:30:24 AM
I didn't like Panetta being named as Sec Def from the very beginning.   He seemed too much like a strictly political appointee instead of someone appointed for their knowledge of the military and international affairs.

Surprise, surprise, the Brass is made up by those that get there on Who they know and not What they know---including their Commander And Chief.

I would guess that all this pro-gay shit is coming from the Top Brass that are still in the Closet. [  wife and kids do not count ] Good Beards to hide under.

One has to be appointed to the Academy's by a congressman ?    Making large champagne contributions to someone in politics is a shoo in for a wealthy parent with a smart kid.  There are a very few that make it into the Academy on scholastic achievements brought to the attention of  people of influence.   

The Academy's are great places to meet other students of family's with wealth and influence, these contacts are life long.

Any one wonder how McCain got out of a prison camp in Hanoi ??????     



Title: Re: Radicalizing the Military
Post by: obumazombie on August 02, 2012, 09:21:05 PM

Any one wonder how McCain got out of a prison camp in Hanoi ??????     





I think you are veering way out of line with that question.
Title: Re: Radicalizing the Military
Post by: txradioguy on August 03, 2012, 12:21:05 AM

Any one wonder how McCain got out of a prison camp in Hanoi ??????     


Drunk posting again vesta?

If McCain had used the fact his dad was an Admiral to get special treatment...it didn't work...the man can't raise his arms above his head because of how they had him tied up.

McCain might be an idiot on your level of stupidity right now...but back then...he was true to the Code.
Title: Re: Radicalizing the Military
Post by: obumazombie on August 03, 2012, 12:33:37 AM
Drunk posting again vesta?

If McCain had used the fact his dad was an Admiral to get special treatment...it didn't work...the man can't raise his arms above his head because of how they had him tied up.

McCain might be an idiot on your level of stupidity right now...but back then...he was true to the Code.
He came to the Hanoi Hilton with broken shoulders from ejection injuries. The enemy never gave him medical treatment to set his arms, and let them heal. Then they tortured him mercilessly by first tying his arms back like spread wings, and making him only be able to support his weight if he stood on his toes. McCain was offered early release, but he refused, and was not released until all remaining prisoners were released. He was a purple heart honorable genuine war hero in every respect. The antithesis of owebuma.
Title: Re: Radicalizing the Military
Post by: vesta111 on August 03, 2012, 09:08:34 AM
He came to the Hanoi Hilton with broken shoulders from ejection injuries. The enemy never gave him medical treatment to set his arms, and let them heal. Then they tortured him mercilessly by first tying his arms back like spread wings, and making him only be able to support his weight if he stood on his toes. McCain was offered early release, but he refused, and was not released until all remaining prisoners were released. He was a purple heart honorable genuine war hero in every respect. The antithesis of owebuma.

 :fuelfire:

Goes to show what we have forgotten about the Obama's first campaign.   All the dirty tricks spent on spreading wild eyed rumors on McCain, was hard to know just who he was from all the story's going around about him.

So some of us did some back tracking and found that all rumors had just enough truth in them to make us over look the facts, believe the lies and go all knee jerk on him. 

  Remember we have still never Forgiven Jane Fonda and never will.    I hope when she passes the WBC arrives to damn her.  As much as I dislike the WBC this is the only appropriate place for them to demonstrait at any funeral.

My point is that had this been MY or your father, brother or grand father, there would have been no Admiral steaming full speed ahead to save them.  Not to blame McCain for who his dad was, just to say things would have turned out mighty different if his father was a butcher in a small town.

McCain was a war hero just as much as the others captured , just as much as any other man in the situation as he. He suffered no more or no less then others, perhaps less as he came home alive, intact, and far as I know no one ever called him a baby killer as the majority of returning troops were called.

McCain went on to become a good leader for the people he represented, lucky him,   18 -19 year old draftees returning minus an arm or leg, were scorned even by their own family's.

Hell of a time in history,  Now repeating itself with out the baby killer label..  Our men and this time woman coming home from war with no jobs, all hero's in one way or the other.  Difference is this is Their Choice to Serve ,back in McCain's  time there was the draft and no choice at all.   

Another point is that any man or woman that serves our country on the battle field is the antithesis of Obama,
or Romney for that matter.   One cannot run a country with no experience in fighting themselves to protect it.

Title: Re: Radicalizing the Military
Post by: obumazombie on August 05, 2012, 12:38:32 AM
vesta, almost to a man the POWs that were his comrades said that he suffered more than any other POW. You should probably drop the subject.
Title: Re: Radicalizing the Military
Post by: txradioguy on August 05, 2012, 09:22:29 AM
vesta, almost to a man the POWs that were his comrades said that he suffered more than any other POW. You should probably drop the subject.

She won't...she's too stupid to know when to quit digging the hole she's already in.