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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: CactusCarlos on July 27, 2012, 10:29:43 AM
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IdaBriggs (5,101 posts)
My INALIENABLE Rights TRUMP Your SECOND Amendment Rights.
My rights to LIFE, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness trump your right to own machine guns, assault weapons, and anything that looks like something that could kill half a dozen people from a distance.
I don't know the names or technical specifications or whatever the heck else matters when it comes to the different types of stuff out there, but I. Am. Done. Arguing.
If you want to keep YOUR TOYS, then YOU had better figure out how to make sure the next crackpot off his meds isn't going to shoot up my kid's school, a movie theater, a local fast food restaurant, the street outside his drug buddy's house where my kid is playing jump rope - you name it.
I. Am. Done.
You want to keep them because they really aren't that big of a deal, and you promise you will take care of them, and you will clean up after any mess they make, and because you just LOVE THEM EVER SO MUCH?
Then YOU figure out a way to make sure everyone else stays SAFE.
If YOU, the person who wants this crap sold to "anyone who wants to join your hobby group" can't find a way to STOP YOUR FELLOW HOBBYISTS FROM KILLING PEOPLE, so help me I will do it for you.
And you won't like my solution. I promise.
Are we clear?
I asked, ARE WE CLEAR?
With great power comes great responsibility; you've been lying down with killer dogs and now you and all of your fellow hobbyist are under suspicion of fleas.
It is not MY responsibility to clean up after YOUR mess; if you want to keep playing, you'd better take care of the problem and I mean NOW.
Now go to your room and think about what you've done. And don't come out until you have some better answers than "because I want to" and "daddy said I could back in the olden days!"
Mommy's putting her foot down.
I. Am. Done.
Someone PLEASE get IdaBriggs a Pamprin (or a Scooby Snack)!
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IdaBriggs (5,101 posts)
My INALIENABLE Rights TRUMP Your SECOND Amendment Rights.
No they don't. You're an idiot. :mental:
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Hey, stupid primitive, without my 2nd Amendment rights, you don't have any 'inalienable rights.' So, STFU.
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Someone PLEASE get IdaBriggs a Pamprin (or a Scooby Snack)!
Naw, I think IdaBriggs needs a Bean-Filled Whack-Bonk. What is a Bean-Filled Whack-Bonk you ask?
(http://www.standleefamily.com/blog/Scrapbook/image/toons/Garfield%20-%2019840923.gif)
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Oh.
It's the IdiotBriggs primitive.
I haven't seen her for a while.
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Lighten up Francis.
Does the fact that 99% of all gun violence happens in gun free zones or cities with the most draconian gun laws?
Don't let the facts get in way of your ideology.
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Lighten up Francis.
Does the fact that 99% of all gun violence happens in gun free zones or cities with the most draconian gun laws?
Don't let the facts get in way of your ideology.
The IdiotBriggs primitive is trampling on franksolich's INALIENABLE right to the pursuit of happiness, simply by being a primitive. One wonders how that could be remedied. A lobotomy, perhaps.
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Worst this the idabriggs idiot will do is talk you to death.
I forget what board it was on but several years ago somehow I got her email address and wrote her about something stupid she said, which could have been anything she said. She wrote back some 10,000 word rant that went in all sorts of directions off the topic. I wrote back what was maybe a 30 word rebuttal, and she wrote back with another 10,000 word screetch.
That was enough. She's a loon.
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My 2nd amendmeny rights ENSURE your rights to life. liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness, you hoplophobic shrew.
Molon Labe.
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Worst this the idabriggs idiot will do is talk you to death.
I forget what board it was on but several years ago somehow I got her email address and wrote her about something stupid she said, which could have been anything she said. She wrote back some 10,000 word rant that went in all sorts of directions off the topic. I wrote back what was maybe a 30 word rebuttal, and she wrote back with another 10,000 word screetch.
That was enough. She's a loon.
The IdiotBriggs primitive was the one who went on a tour of Egypt (paid for by someone else), and came back to Skins's island announcing that women have more rights in Egypt than they do here in the United States.
That was about the time the Scamdal was getting underway; maybe April or May 2005.
The IdiotBriggs primitive, who lives in Michigan, is one of those greedy landlords. She had a tenant who was late on paying the rent, and she kicked her out.
That was maybe a couple of years later.
LibraryLady over at our old home during the earlier part of this century used to feel sorry for the IdiotBriggs primitive, because apparently she was always having miscarriages, until near the end, when she had twins. It used to drive me nuts, when LibraryLady would get all teary-eyed about it.
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It doesn't sound as if anybody is violating her right to life.
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Worst this the idabriggs idiot will do is talk you to death.
I forget what board it was on but several years ago somehow I got her email address and wrote her about something stupid she said, which could have been anything she said. She wrote back some 10,000 word rant that went in all sorts of directions off the topic. I wrote back what was maybe a 30 word rebuttal, and she wrote back with another 10,000 word screetch.
That was enough. She's a loon.
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Brevity is the soul of wit.
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They're so cute when they're stamping their feet in impotent rage, aren't they?
IdaBriggs (5,101 posts)
My INALIENABLE Rights TRUMP Your SECOND Amendment Rights.
My rights to LIFE, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness trump your right to own machine guns, assault weapons, and anything that looks like something that could kill half a dozen people from a distance.
I. Am. Done. Arguing.
I. Am. Done.
..so help me I will do it for you.
And you won't like my solution. I promise.
Are we clear?
I asked, ARE WE CLEAR?
...you'd better take care of the problem and I mean NOW.
Now go to your room and think about what you've done. And don't come out until you have some better answers than "because I want to" and "daddy said I could back in the olden days!"
Mommy's putting her foot down.
I. Am. Done.
Tell you what, DUmbass, when you ****ers figure out how to control obama's sons, quit handing them our money to buy their weapons, learn that gun free zones don't apply to criminals, and realize we are tired of being told we have to cower under a table while a monster runs loose in our homes, I might be willing to listen. (Then again, my "inalienable" right to defend my life and my property pretty much trumps whatever tantrum you might be throwing right now.)
Until then, zip it, you ****ing ****. You sound like my ex-wife and, like her, I frankly don't give a shit what you want or how you feel.
ETA: quotation marks around "inalienable".
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Life? What 'right' to life has a man who is drowning in the Pacific? The ocean will not hearken to his cries. What 'right' to life has a man who must die to save his children? If he chooses to save his own life, does he do so as a matter of 'right'? If two men are starving and cannibalism is the only alternative to death, which man's right is 'unalienable'? And is it 'right'? As to liberty, the heroes who signed the great document pledged themselves to buy liberty with their lives. Liberty is never unalienable; it must be redeemed regularly with the blood of patriots or it always vanishes. Of all the so-called natural human rights that have ever been invented, liberty is least likely to be cheap and is never free of cost. The third 'right'?—the 'pursuit of happiness'? It is indeed unalienable but it is not a right; it is simply a universal condition which tyrants cannot take away nor patriots restore. Cast me into a dungeon, burn me at the stake, crown me king of kings, I can 'pursue happiness' as long as my brain lives—but neither gods nor saints, wise men nor subtle drugs, can ensure that I will catch it."
Just re-read that section. Perhaps Ida should read it sometime.
And it's UNalienable, you stupid cow.
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IdaBriggs (5,101 posts)
My INALIENABLE Rights TRUMP Your SECOND Amendment Rights.
My rights to LIFE, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness trump your right to own machine guns, assault weapons, and anything that looks like something that could kill half a dozen people from a distance.
You must've learned your Constitutional law from Trip. The language you're relying on, somewhat misquoted as it is, is from the Declaration of Independence, which is not part of the Constitution and therefore not part of our law. The Second Amendment is part of the entire Constitution. NOW who's been trumped, beyotch?
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I. Am. Done. Arguing.
I. Am. Done.
..so help me I will do it for you.
And you won't like my solution. I promise.
Are we clear?
I asked, ARE WE CLEAR?
...you'd better take care of the problem and I mean NOW.
Now go to your room and think about what you've done. And don't come out until you have some better answers than "because I want to" and "daddy said I could back in the olden days!"
Mommy's putting her foot down.
I. Am. Done.
:rotf:
Oh my God, that is the funniest thing I've read all week. IdaB is about as intimidating as a fart in an elevator and twice as annoying. :lmao:
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Just a few days ago here, a fellow walked into a place where I used to eat a lot of the time. He was swinging an axe. His intentions were to rob the place and those in it. The owner pulled a gun on him and held him until the cops arrived. Would be robber told the cops, "....but....but....but I needed drugs, man".
When DUmmies get all the illegal drugs gone, all the crazy dopeheads off the street and all the violent criminals in prison then they can come talk to me about putting some limits on my weapons....it ain't going to do them any good but they can come talk to me.
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Was trying to think of something snarkly and smart aleck, but could only come up with this response.
IdaBriggs GO F**K yourself. :bird:
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You must've learned your Constitutional law from Trip. The language you're relying on, somewhat misquoted as it is, is from the Declaration of Independence, which is not part of the Constitution and therefore not part of our law. The Second Amendment is part of the entire Constitution. NOW who's been trumped, beyotch?
Post of the day IMHO.
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Chris, I started laughing too. :lmao:
I said, ARE WE CLEAR??? She. Is. Done.
One of my thoughts was, "My God, imagine being around her in real life!" Then, USA4ME came close!
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She says all Americans have a "right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." Then she calls guns "TOYS". Don't people's toys make them happy? Give a kid a new toy, that kid will be happy all day. Why is she trying to restrict other people's "right" to the pursuit of happiness by taking away their "toys"?
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Someone PLEASE get IdaBriggs a Pamprin (or a Scooby Snack)!
You wanna talk about rights? The right to life trumps your freedom of choice, so STFU!
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Oh My:
Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 09:18 AM
dmallind (9,784 posts)
106. Yep you're done.
Your "ideas" here are done being considered. Dead. Never to be resurrected as long as our society and laws exist in their current form.
Your strident empty claims of authority are done being given the remotest sliver of influence or import.
Your admitted ignorance of the topic is done having even a back-row seat at any discussion of gun laws or rights.
Your empty "contrast" of rights that no more conflict than the right to liberty and the existence of prisons is done as even the sad tired rhetorical device it is, since the use of a firearm to end your life has always been, and remains, about as illegal as it's possible to be.
Mommy's just stamping her foot and pointlessly screaming a tantrum about millions of other adults who are, thankfully, not her children and never were.
You. ARE. Done.
Remmah2 (1,878 posts)
172. Guess it's obvious, our kids will never play together.
Glad you're not my mother, glad you're not my kids mother.
Both of my kids have been captains of their schools rifle team (when they were jr-sr's). Both of my kids go shooting with me and their mother.
Keep an eye on your kids and I'll keep an eye on mine.
Ouch.
Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 11:16 AM
cherokeeprogressive (12,970 posts)
200. Yawning facepalm...
You're NOT my ****ing Mom. Are we clear?
Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 11:40 AM
aikoaiko (13,764 posts)
217. IdaBriggs, "And you won't like my solution. I promise."
Ohh, please share. What is your solution that you think I won't like?
What solution could you have that has the slightest chance of even becoming a bill or getting a sponsor?
You call it a hobby. I call it a civil liberty.
Then Ida pens a letter to Obama. Long, rambling and devoid of paragraphs, or even punctuation. She provides a handy link to her DU thread. Think he'll go? :lmao:
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IdaBriggs (5,101 posts)
My rights to LIFE, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness trump your right to own machine guns, assault weapons, and anything that looks like something that could kill half a dozen people from a distance.
Unborn not so much, right, scrunt? :loser:
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Unborn not so much, right, scrunt? :loser:
Her life. Not those other lives.
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Her life. Not those other lives.
Selfishness to the extreme. Typical of the DUmpmonkeys.
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130 years ago, I would find this DUmbass and challenge it to a duel for its insults to myself, friends, and family. It would either eat a miniball or run away never to speak of this again. Those were times when one considered what one said.
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Was Ida trying to be Col Jessup? We all know how that turned out.
So when will she order the Code Red?
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We have a rather unkempt chap that wanders around in our town who makes similar pronouncements to power poles & shrubs.
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IdaBriggs (5,101 posts)
My INALIENABLE Rights TRUMP Your SECOND Amendment Rights.
My rights to LIFE, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness trump your right to own machine guns, assault weapons, and anything that looks like something that could kill half a dozen people from a distance.
I don't know the names or technical specifications or whatever the heck else matters when it comes to the different types of stuff out there, but I. Am. Done. Arguing.
If you want to keep YOUR TOYS, then YOU had better figure out how to make sure the next crackpot off his meds isn't going to shoot up my kid's school, a movie theater, a local fast food restaurant, the street outside his drug buddy's house where my kid is playing jump rope - you name it.
I. Am. Done.
You want to keep them because they really aren't that big of a deal, and you promise you will take care of them, and you will clean up after any mess they make, and because you just LOVE THEM EVER SO MUCH?
Then YOU figure out a way to make sure everyone else stays SAFE.
If YOU, the person who wants this crap sold to "anyone who wants to join your hobby group" can't find a way to STOP YOUR FELLOW HOBBYISTS FROM KILLING PEOPLE, so help me I will do it for you.
And you won't like my solution. I promise.
Are we clear?
I asked, ARE WE CLEAR?
With great power comes great responsibility; you've been lying down with killer dogs and now you and all of your fellow hobbyist are under suspicion of fleas.
It is not MY responsibility to clean up after YOUR mess; if you want to keep playing, you'd better take care of the problem and I mean NOW.
Now go to your room and think about what you've done. And don't come out until you have some better answers than "because I want to" and "daddy said I could back in the olden days!"
Mommy's putting her foot down.
I. Am. Done.
After the first "I. AM. DONE." she went on to type an additional (approximate) 270 words. Apparently she wasn't done. A wise man once said that DUmmies lie all the time, and IdaBriggs has proven him right once again.
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Okay...I have a gun in my hand (maybe even an assault rifle since they're legal in my state and quite practical) and she has...a snarky little selfish lecture...who wins again?
Cindie
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:rotf:
Oh my God, that is the funniest thing I've read all week. IdaB is about as intimidating as a fart in an elevator and twice as annoying. :lmao:
And about as popular as a fart in a diving helmet.
Or is that as popular as a turd in a punchbowl?
Definitely as useful as a screen door on a submarine.
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Good Lord, that woman makes nads look (relatively) sane. And that letter...she's bound to be put on some sort of eatch list. Perhaps the suicide one?
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We have a rather unkempt chap that wanders around in our town who makes similar pronouncements to power poles & shrubs.
Same here, we call him the coffee guy because he will not take cash donations but he is all over a free cup of starbucks. He used to wear a "impeach Bush" ballcap. I leave my empty beer cans and bottles on the back patio for him.
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Quote from IdaPiggs.
--snip--
You want to keep them because they really aren't that big of a deal, and you promise you will take care of them, and you will clean up after any mess they make, and because you just LOVE THEM EVER SO MUCH?
Then YOU figure out a way to make sure everyone else stays SAFE.
--snip--
OK, I'll wrack my brain and figure out a way.
Hows this: Police catch the bad guys and put them in jail.
well that was easy. And another brilliant DUmmie argument washes down the drain.
Listen honey. There are 270 millions guns in the country. nothing you say or do will change that fact.
The genie is out of the bottle. You little rant will not put it back.
Remember sweetie cakes. Al Gore lost the election in 2000 not because of Bush, Florida or the USSC. Gore lost because of gun rights. That was the issue that lost him his own home state. Had Gore won Tennessee, he would have won the election. instead Gore is the only presidential candidate to ever lose his home state.
ever since 2000 your own party has been running away from gun legislation.
work on your own people first before you come whining to me.
Thank you for allowing me to laugh at your impotent rant.
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michreject (4,044 posts)
84. I don't own any assault weapons
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I do however own an AR-15, an UZI and and a AK-47 in semi auto.
I have no plans in getting rid of them.
As to shooting up your kids school by some deranged idiot, I can assure you it won't be be. I can only control MY actions.
IdaBriggs (5,111 posts)
97. That is part of the problem - you can only control YOU
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while your toys, through theft or your untimely demise, could end up anywhere, and in the hands of anyone.
And you are assuming you can actually "control yourself" - I believe you, by the way - but given the addition of alcohol, illegal drugs, or mental illness, the same "good judgment" can not be counted on by everyone else.
Now that I have pointed out these issues, do you have any suggestions on how to address these reasonably obvious realities?
Because, "yeah, that sucks, maybe we should all sing kumbya" isn't acceptable anymore.
michreject (4,044 posts)
103. I don't drink or do drugs
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Been 20 years now.
Short of a out right ban, which ain't gonna happen, I don't see anything that could have been done to stop the CO massacre. The shooter didn't exhibit any of the traits that would have rendered him ineligible to purchase a firearm.
I do know that restricting rights and freedom of the 99% to ensure the the 1% doesn't cause mayhem and destruction is not the answer. Not to sound cavalier about it but I guess it's the cost we pay to remain free.
A persons INALIENABLE rights go only so far. They cease when they infringe on another persons rights. You can't deny me my right in the quest for Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.
That's just the way it is.
You shouldn't question she who must be obeyed.
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Lighten up Francis.
Does the fact that 99% of all gun violence happens in gun free zones or cities with the most draconian gun laws?
Don't let the facts get in way of your ideology.
I'd also point out that a distinct majority of that violence falls into the category of public service.
I read someplace yesterday that of the first 211 homicide victims in Chicago this year, something like 203 were gangbangers and their associates.
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IdaBriggs (5,101 posts)
<buncha tripe>
I. Am. Done.[/color]
If YOU, the person who wants this crap sold to "anyone who wants to join your hobby group" can't find a way to STOP YOUR FELLOW HOBBYISTS FROM KILLING PEOPLE, so help me I will do it for you.
And you won't like my solution. I promise.
Are we clear?
I asked, ARE WE CLEAR?
With great power comes great responsibility; you've been lying down with killer dogs and now you and all of your fellow hobbyist are under suspicion of fleas.
It is not MY responsibility to clean up after YOUR mess; if you want to keep playing, you'd better take care of the problem and I mean NOW.
Now go to your room and think about what you've done. And don't come out until you have some better answers than "because I want to" and "daddy said I could back in the olden days!"
Mommy's putting her foot down.
I. Am. Done.[/color]
Food gets done, people get finished dear. :tongue:
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Obama doesn't think any rights are inalienable. For them to be that they must have come from God and be available to everyone.
Obama almost always omits the word "Creator" when he quotes the DOI. http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-omits-creator-when-citing-inalienable-rights-lgbts
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I wish I owned an assault gun, does that count? Preferably a long-barreled StuG-III or a StuH-42.
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Wow, IdaBriggs! Now there's a name I haven't heard in a while!
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If YOU, the person who wants this crap sold to "anyone who wants to join your hobby group" can't find a way to STOP YOUR FELLOW HOBBYISTS FROM KILLING PEOPLE, so help me I will do it for you.
Dear Ida,
I ain't going to do shit. Your move.
Love,
Me :bird:
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I wish I owned an assault gun, does that count? Preferably a long-barreled StuG-III or a StuH-42.
Naw, for me it would be the JagdPanther.
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That'd work too.
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Naw, for me it would be the JagdPanther.
I'd take an SU-122, myself.
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:yawn: Typical leftist..."MY RIGHTS trump your rights every time." :mental: The concept of equal rights completely escapes them. :whatever:
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I would type a reply but my evil, black assault AK is low crawling towards the door and I need to stop it before it goes on a rampage.
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130 years ago, I would find this DUmbass and challenge it to a duel for its insults to myself, friends, and family. It would either eat a miniball or run away never to speak of this again. Those were times when one considered what one said.
"An armed society is a polite society. One never knows when one may have to back up his words with his life."
Gee, something tells me Ida isn't familiar with this concept.
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If you want to keep YOUR TOYS, then YOU had better figure out how to make sure the next crackpot off his meds isn't going to shoot up my kid's school, a movie theater, a local fast food restaurant, the street outside his drug buddy's house where my kid is playing jump rope - you name it.
If you want to keep YOUR BOOZE, then YOU had better figure out how to make sure some drunk never kills a family while driving.
If you want to keep YOUR WELFARE, then YOU had better figure out how to make sure layabouts don't bankrupt the nation.
If you want to keep YOUR "FREE LOVE", then YOU had better figure out how to make sure people aren't recklessly breeding kids they won't support.
If you want to keep YOUR HEALTHCARE, then YOU had better figure out how to make sure we never subsidize unhealthy activities.
If you want to keep YOUR RIGHTS FOR UNLAWFUL COMBATANTS, then YOU had better figure out how to make sure some jihadist never hits this nation ever again.
Are we clear?
I asked, ARE WE CLEAR?
Shall we continue this game?
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:yawn: Typical leftist..."MY RIGHTS trump your rights every time." :mental: The concept of equal rights completely escapes them. :whatever:
This has nothing to do with their rights, and everything to do with their fears.
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This has nothing to do with their rights, and everything to do with their fears.
It has to do with their attitudes. They just can't wrap their pin-heads around the simple concept of equal rights. They have the right to life, but can't understand that unborn children, Republicans, and conservative minorities also have that right.
They have the right to support homosexual behavior and gay "marriage," and every Christian in the country has the right to support traditional marriage and traditional families.
They have the right to speak out about their beliefs, and conservatives have the right to speak out.
The overwhelming attitude of the left is that their right to speak, support, live, etc., vastly outweigh the rights of anyone else. They truly are still the party of slavery...
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Oh.
It's the IdiotBriggs primitive.
I haven't seen her for a while.
Who will play IdaBriggs in the franksolitch production of DU the movie ?
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Who will play IdaBriggs in the franksolitch production of DU the movie ?
Mimi from Drew Carey.
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Mimi from Drew Carey.
Honestly, the rant she posted reads like something Roseanne Barr would pen, and I can see her spouting it off in her typical self-righteously autocratic manner.
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Rosie O'Donnell
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Kathy Griffin?
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Courtney Love?
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Muriel the Bag Lady who lives under the 53rd St bridge.
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I'm going with Rhea Perlman who played Carla Tortelli on "Cheers".
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I'm going with Rhea Perlman who played Carla Tortelli on "Cheers".
You could have made that into a trivia question.
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You could have made that into a trivia question.
Easy question. She's also married to Danny Devito
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I'll try and be brief.
Ida,**** YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU That is all.
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Easy question. She's also married to Danny Devito
AND, you could have made that into a trivia question. Make these guys (and gals) work for it. They're not at all like libs who love having stuff handed to them.
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Just how grants these ' INALIENABLE Rights' ?
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I found "UNALIENABLE" rights, but not "INALIENABLE" rights...maybe my 2 hard copies and my Ipad app all have typos....