alp227 (15,402 posts)http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021023561
Human waste shuts down BART escalators
When work crews pulled open a broken BART escalator at San Francisco's Civic Center Station last month, they found so much human excrement in its works they had to call a hazardous-materials team.
While the sheer volume of human waste was surprising, its presence was not. Once the stations close, the bottom of BART station stairwells in downtown San Francisco are often a prime location for homeless people to camp for the night or find a private place to relieve themselves.
All those biological excretions can gum up the wheels and gears of BART's escalators, shutting them down for long periods of extended repairs, increasing station cleaning costs and creating an unpleasant aroma for morning commuters.
Five of the nine escalators that weren't working at BART stations on Wednesday were in downtown San Francisco, said Jim Allison, a BART spokesman. While there are many reasons a BART escalator can break down, the beating they take at night is among the most acute.
full: http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Human-waste-shuts-down-BART-escalators-3735981.php
Article also includes a photo of the scene...make sure you wait a while if you've recently eaten.
NuttyFluffers (6,313 posts)
24. there's a well known mentally ill homeless woman who every morning poops across the street of CC sta
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she was on the news. and the nice lady in the coffee shop nearby is trying to get her help and teach her to use the store's bathroom. it's taking a very long while, and working only in fits and starts. often there's a lump o' shit next to the bus stop. it's the corner across the street from Civic Center Station and across from the Citibank atm. (edit: Market & 8th, btw) kinda depressing, but there it is.
she needs real help, but with all the services the city can provide, and even public/business interest there's no real way to curb this issue. she needs more assistance than we can provide as Reagan shut down so many of our mental health facilities. sure, there were abuses in the past -- and likely still around in mental health facilities elsewhere -- but leaving them without care on the street isn't exactly an improvement.
by the way, there's a public restroom outside the station. it isn't always working, and at one point people wanted to take even those away due to the junkie problem. but it is there, barring any recent renovations I haven't heard about in the past 5 months.
dixiegrrrrl (25,317 posts)
54. Sf tried free public outdoor toilets
which have been said to work well in Europe.
Not so much in SF, tho.
Junkies use them to shoot up in, toilets got jammed and spilled over. Everytime they are cleaned out, they get filled up with all sorts of ....well, let's say..."stuff".
And right outside, the gutters are full of human waste.
On a warm day, the smell of urine hangs over areas of the city for miles.
Yes, I know what I am talking about, I lived and worked in SF until 2005.
Kalidurga (1,960 posts)
7. Maybe they should reconsider letting the homeless go without shelter...
I think if they tried really hard to think of a solution they could come up with one. Then they could put in a porta potty maybe because sometimes people just gotta go even if they have a home they are trying to get to.
Sen. Walter Sobchak (5,325 posts)
23. Unless by shelter you mean "mental institution" that only goes so far
My girlfriend has been assaulted twice by San Francisco's urban savages, one of them wasn't even technically homeless - but had wandered off from a group home because she liked smoking crack better than living indoors.
A bed and a toilet doesn't even begin to address the issues with many of these characters.
The larger problem is when one refers to San Francisco's homeless you are referring to a spectacularly disparate groups ranging from teenaged runaways and gutter punks to hardcore junkies and psychiatric cases with a whole bunch of unique situations in-between. But housing assistance only goes so far when the underlying issue is substance abuse, mental illness or the inexplicable "cool to be homeless" punks.
Sen. Walter Sobchak (5,325 posts)
16. This is where Saudi Arabia can teach us a practical lesson...
We need an American version of the Mutaween, armed with culturally appropriate melee weapon to immediately and harshly punish public shithead behavior.
marmar (56,265 posts)
28. Or maybe we need better housing and sanitary facilities for the homeless, n'est-ce pas?
Wow, reality hits them in the face, kicks them on the ass, and performs a slam-dunk.............and they still don't get it.
San Francisco has to be one of the most disgusting places on earth. I don't see how Mr. Monk could tolerate this.
San Francisco has to be one of the most disgusting places on earth. I don't see how Mr. Monk could tolerate this.
It is really a shame because at one time San Francisco was a beautiful city and a great place for a short vacation. Now it's a shining example of the failure that is LIBERALISM.Maybe the 1908 San Francisco fire was caused by someone who caught a glimpse of 2012 San Francisco.
A bed and a toilet doesn't even begin to address the issues with many of these characters.
This would address them just fine...
(http://www.rareammo.com/TinyMCE/thumbnail.ashx?src=%2fcontent%2f180944%2fBullet_Pics%2f40SW.jpg&size=300)
Response to MADem (Reply #85)::)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 03:17 AM
Luminous Animal (14,924 posts)
89. You have linked to a right wing publication. Congratulations.
Response to Sen. Walter Sobchak (Reply #16)I have no idea what he/she/it, is talking about, and how does it relate to poop in the escalators?
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 07:10 AM
RandiFan1290 (744 posts)
29. I wish more on the right were as honest
to admit that Saudi Arabia and Iran are countries they wold like the US to emulate.
MADem points out some articles detailing out the very real problems with the SF public toilets. Unable to respond reasonably, we get the tired oldThat was a funny exchange.
::)
Luminous Animal then proceeds to repeat herself over and over and over. "The homeless are supposed to get tokens. The toilets are fantastic and perfect. The homeless are supposed to get tokens." She sounds like a loon.
It's a pretty good read, one dude puts another dude on ignore for absolutely no reason. Another day at the asylum! :lmao:
Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #34)The money quote...
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 11:13 AM
4th law of robotics (2,974 posts)
35. Ah so not wanting to be surrounded by shit is "bourgeois"
I take it then that you do want to live in human excrement?
Response to 4th law of robotics (Reply #35)Follow-ups....
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 11:15 AM
coalition_unwilling (11,524 posts)
36. Um, yeah, not wanting to be surrounded by shit is the
essence of the 'bourgeois' (middle-class) mindset.
As for your straw-man, no need to reply as you have now joined the illustrious ranks of my Ignore list. Is that you, Gnads?
Have a nice life or whatever.
Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #36)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 11:18 AM
4th law of robotics (2,974 posts)
37. Fascinating
You deride someone for wanting to avoid something then become furious when they ask if that means you don't want to avoid that same thing.
I suppose consistency in an argument is also bourgeois.
/or more likely you didn't expect me to reply that way, realized how silly you sounded, and "rage-quit" to avoid looking more foolish. yup
Response to 4th law of robotics (Reply #37)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 10:11 PM
Quantess (20,955 posts)
79. If that's all it takes to get on someone's ignore list
then he or she already has half of DU on ignore. Y'all forgot the "it".
Response to Quantess (Reply #79)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 02:23 AM
loli phabay (571 posts)
84. seems people use the ignore thing if they lose an argument, i jsut dont get it
Response to loli phabay (Reply #84)Last shot..
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 05:31 AM
Quantess (20,955 posts)
101. That person probably just needed a nap. or at least a free token
Looks to me like they got upset over nothing. Some people come here wanting to fight, and expecting that everyone else wants to fight. Some people come here for discussion, which is not the same thing as fighting. Not everything on DU needs to be an argument, or that one person is comepletely correct and the other person is completely wrong. Especially not between progressives and/or democrats.
Peace!
Response to Quantess (Reply #79)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 09:31 AM
4th law of robotics (2,974 posts)
103. I'm sure that half of DU is really suffering
from being on this individuals ignore list.
Pity us.
24. there's a well known mentally ill homeless woman who every morning poops across the street of CC sta
Last edited Thu Jul 26, 2012, 05:21 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
she was on the news. and the nice lady in the coffee shop nearby is trying to get her help and teach her to use the store's bathroom. it's taking a very long while, and working only in fits and starts.
San Francisco has to be one of the most disgusting places on earth. I don't see how Mr. Monk could tolerate this.
Sen. Walter Sobchak (5,325 posts)The mutaween (Arabic: المطوعين، مطوعية‎ muá¹awwiÊ¿Ä«n, muá¹awwiÊ¿iyyah)[1] are the government-authorized or government-recognized religious police (or clerical police) of Saudi Arabia. They are also religious-policing organizations in Islamic countries like Saudi Arabia and the former Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan with at least some government recognition or deference which enforce varied interpretations of Sharia law.
16. This is where Saudi Arabia can teach us a practical lesson...
We need an American version of the Mutaween, armed with culturally appropriate melee weapon to immediately and harshly punish public shithead behavior.
Yeah, islam will cure all of our defects. Convert, be subjugated, or be killed.
At the very least, stop shitting on the escalator. :lmao:
At the very least, stop shitting on the escalator. :lmao:
I'm kind of surprised that the escalators are not gummed up with spunk...AIDS infested spunk.
You can safely bet your last dollar there's an unhealthy high percentage mixed in with the shit.
Sounds like San Francisco still has a lot of occupoopers.Holmes had to apprentice somewhere.
Or maybe they're just shitters provocateur.