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Title: Some thoughts on the "If someone else had a gun" argument (Pitt/Nads)
Post by: RWKindaGuy on July 24, 2012, 03:49:01 PM
Nads and a few get in a real knockdown drag out with Nads once again insisting that she has been in several shoot outs.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021011852
Title: Re: Some thoughts on the "If someone else had a gun" argument (Pitt/Nads)
Post by: BlueStateSaint on July 24, 2012, 03:56:28 PM
Squirt gun fights don't count, Nadin--even if there's Super Soakers involved.
Title: Re: Some thoughts on the "If someone else had a gun" argument (Pitt/Nads)
Post by: Kyle Ricky on July 24, 2012, 04:12:33 PM
The only time she has ever been in a shoot out is when whatever man was desperate to sleep with her saw her in the day light and tried to escape.
Title: Re: Some thoughts on the "If someone else had a gun" argument (Pitt/Nads)
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on July 24, 2012, 04:15:29 PM
Squirt gun fights don't count, Nadin--even if there's Super Soakers involved.

But they were Super Soakers...
Title: Re: Some thoughts on the "If someone else had a gun" argument (Pitt/Nads)
Post by: ChuckJ on July 24, 2012, 04:31:36 PM
What is this "riffle" that she speaks of so often in the thread?
Title: Re: Some thoughts on the "If someone else had a gun" argument (Pitt/Nads)
Post by: jukin on July 24, 2012, 04:45:45 PM
If one takes incoming fire there will be a change in tactics. If the one taking fire has never taken fire the flight impulse will usually win. I maintain that incoming fire would have made the POS duck and run thus saving lives. It is also becoming clear that there were no bullet resistant clothing on the POS.  Looks like our wonderful layers of fact checking MSM had it wrong. Most likely he had some type of black tactical shooting vest on. Like everything is a scary black assault rifle no matter if it is a pellet gun, all black tactical gear is ARMOR.

When Romney becomes president, first order of business is to sick the DOJ on the monopoly called the AP.
Title: Re: Some thoughts on the "If someone else had a gun" argument (Pitt/Nads)
Post by: J. M. Pyne on July 24, 2012, 05:03:21 PM
Wow!  Worked my way through this mess.  Nads seems a bit frantic and nearly unhinged.  I know that she will never provide details of her cop, fire fight and other fantasies.  Someday this unnstable person is going to implode on DU.
Title: Re: Some thoughts on the "If someone else had a gun" argument (Pitt/Nads)
Post by: Freeper on July 24, 2012, 05:21:03 PM
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nadinbrzezinski (106,745 posts)
198. What part of the word CAN't Are you purposely missing?

Is American your first language?

 :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Title: Re: Some thoughts on the "If someone else had a gun" argument (Pitt/Nads)
Post by: Freeper on July 24, 2012, 05:28:28 PM
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WilliamPitt (51,294 posts)
17. Comment made on my FB wall:

"There was a shooting at a military base a few years ago. Many of the targets WERE armed. The result was that more than half the victims were hit by the returning fire, rather than the gunman's bullets. If I remember correctly, the gunman was an Army psychiatrist who had served in Afghanistan and snapped. It was a horrible incident, but it's worth pointing out that he knowingly opened fire on armed people who fired back and the end result was even worse."

Looks like Wee Willy has no understanding of a military base. Military bases have the strictest gun control anywhere in the nation. The only people allowed to pack a loaded weapon are the MPs. If you own a gun it must be stored in the Arms Room at your unit except for when you take it to the range. Even when you draw your military weapon you don't get any ammunition until you are at the range and it is issued just before you shoot.

Title: Re: Some thoughts on the "If someone else had a gun" argument (Pitt/Nads)
Post by: thundley4 on July 24, 2012, 05:36:48 PM
Looks like Wee Willy has no understanding of a military base. Military bases have the strictest gun control anywhere in the nation. The only people allowed to pack a loaded weapon are the MPs. If you own a gun it must be stored in the Arms Room at your unit except for when you take it to the range. Even when you draw your military weapon you don't get any ammunition until you are at the range and it is issued just before you shoot.



Weren't the only armed people to fire back police that responded to the emergency calls?  I seem to recall that it was a female officer that took Hasan down.
Title: Re: Some thoughts on the "If someone else had a gun" argument (Pitt/Nads)
Post by: jukin on July 24, 2012, 05:50:08 PM
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nadinbrzezinski (106,745 posts)
198. What part of the word CAN't Are you purposely missing?

Is American your first language?

Shit like that is why I sometimes think Nada maybe the greatest mole in history. Could one better encapsulate a DUche?
Title: Re: Some thoughts on the "If someone else had a gun" argument (Pitt/Nads)
Post by: Skul on July 24, 2012, 06:10:18 PM
But they were Super Soakers...
Supper soakers.  :whistling:  :-)
Title: Re: Some thoughts on the "If someone else had a gun" argument (Pitt/Nads)
Post by: Kyle Ricky on July 24, 2012, 06:12:07 PM
Supper soakers.  :whistling:  :-)

Supper Soakers? What are they making for everyone to eat  :-)
Title: Re: Some thoughts on the "If someone else had a gun" argument (Pitt/Nads)
Post by: ChuckJ on July 24, 2012, 06:15:49 PM
Weren't the only armed people to fire back police that responded to the emergency calls?  I seem to recall that it was a female officer that took Hasan down.

I just went a read up on it. Based on what I read the only shooting, other than by Hasan, was done by two police officers. The female was first on the scene and was hit twice. The male killed Hasan.

I guess all the other shooting took place 24 business hours after the initial shots fired.
Title: Re: Some thoughts on the "If someone else had a gun" argument (Pitt/Nads)
Post by: Danger Close on July 24, 2012, 06:17:55 PM
Weren't the only armed people to fire back police that responded to the emergency calls?  I seem to recall that it was a female officer that took Hasan down.

The female DoA police officer was the first to arrive and fire at the Hasan and was wounded but didn't hit Hasan.  A male DoA officer arrived and shot Hasan incapacitating him.

Nothing in willy the wanker's cited FB post is factual, just fabricated FB BS.  As pointed out, people with no military service don't know that soldiers on base are not armed except when participating in a training exercise like a trip to the range.

Title: Re: Some thoughts on the "If someone else had a gun" argument (Pitt/Nads)
Post by: thundley4 on July 24, 2012, 06:21:08 PM
I just went a read up on it. Based on what I read the only shooting, other than by Hasan, was done by two police officers. The female was first on the scene and was hit twice. The male killed Hasan.

I guess all the other shooting took place 24 business hours after the initial shots fired.

The female DoA police officer was the first to arrive and fire at the Hasan and was wounded but didn't hit Hasan.  A male DoA officer arrived and shot Hasan incapacitating him.

Nothing in willy the wanker's cited FB post is factual, just fabricated FB BS.  As pointed out, people with no military service don't know that soldiers on base are not armed except when participating in a training exercise like a trip to the range.



However, the truth doesn't fit with the left's desire to show that more legally carried weapons would put more people in danger.
Title: Re: Some thoughts on the "If someone else had a gun" argument (Pitt/Nads)
Post by: ChuckJ on July 24, 2012, 06:25:58 PM
Nadin is sure quick to bring up all of her police and shootout experience, and she is even quicker at ignoring any requests for details.

A little over 20 years ago I had a old man talking to me about a local county commissioner. The old man said the commissioner was a pathological liar. He said he told the commissioner once that the only thing that lied more than him was a railroad cross-tie and that was because a cross-tie lied all the time. It always struck me as a strange analogy. I assume he meant that the cross-tie lay beneath the railroad rails constantly.

Regardless, I think if the old man lived to see DU he would see that, strange analogy or not, the cross-tie has some serious competition.
Title: Re: Some thoughts on the "If someone else had a gun" argument (Pitt/Nads)
Post by: franksolich on July 24, 2012, 06:44:34 PM
What is this "riffle" that she speaks of so often in the thread?

She made that mistake repeatedly.

And among the multitude of others, one of the funnier ones was "the Jocker."

She's getting more and more unhinged; I suppose if I lived in San Diego, I wouldn't dare go to a movie, because she might be there, you know.....
Title: Re: Some thoughts on the "If someone else had a gun" argument (Pitt/Nads)
Post by: Delmar on July 24, 2012, 06:47:51 PM
However, the truth doesn't fit with the left's desire to show that more legally carried weapons would put more people in danger.

Heck, it would have helped to have had some illegally carried weapons in the theater that night.  If a couple of armed stick-up men had taken a night off from sticking people up to see a movie, they could have shot the guy and it would have been a win.  
Title: Re: Some thoughts on the "If someone else had a gun" argument (Pitt/Nads)
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on July 24, 2012, 08:07:25 PM
Weren't the only armed people to fire back police that responded to the emergency calls?  I seem to recall that it was a female officer that took Hasan down.

Correct.  Penis-envy Pitt is beyond the stupidity pale.
Title: Re: Some thoughts on the "If someone else had a gun" argument (Pitt/Nads)
Post by: dane on July 24, 2012, 08:19:20 PM
One of the items that has me puzzled in this Pitt/gNads thread is her insistence that the police report on what the shooter wore is totally accurate, and respondants should stop suggesting that any lies were involved in the reporting.

In the Zimmerman threads, and in other threads on nearly a daily basis, DUmmies tell us that all police lie all the time.

One wonders why this is their one exception to the 'lie all the time' rule. Why do they choose to accept this as the whole truth?  How can they justify this lack of consistency?
Title: Re: Some thoughts on the "If someone else had a gun" argument (Pitt/Nads)
Post by: obumazombie on July 24, 2012, 08:23:05 PM
She made that mistake repeatedly.

And among the multitude of others, one of the funnier ones was "the Jocker."

She's getting more and more unhinged; I suppose if I lived in San Diego, I wouldn't dare go to a movie, because she might be there, you know.....

I got hit by the "Jocker" once or twice. Ben Gay the first time. Itching powder the second.
Title: Re: Some thoughts on the "If someone else had a gun" argument (Pitt/Nads)
Post by: diesel driver on July 25, 2012, 05:13:57 AM
I got hit by the "Jocker" once or twice. Ben Gay the first time. Itching powder the second.

We'd did that stuff all the time in high school.  Icy-Hot and HEET were the "weapon" of choice.

I always took my "Jocker" home with me.   :-)
Title: Re: Some thoughts on the "If someone else had a gun" argument (Pitt/Nads)
Post by: Jasonw560 on July 25, 2012, 06:06:01 AM
We'd did that stuff all the time in high school.  Icy-Hot and HEET were the "weapon" of choice.

I always took my "Jocker" home with me.   :-)

We went the icy hot route ourselves.

If you didn't wash your "Jocker" pretty regularly, it started to stink.
Title: Re: Some thoughts on the "If someone else had a gun" argument (Pitt/Nads)
Post by: Tess Anderson on July 25, 2012, 12:44:24 PM
Well, according to the blowhard Pitt, gun violence is actually the reason for turning a far left website's subforum into a "really sick place":

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021006424

as for Nads, like Willie, she has been going around claiming that a vest with a scary name designed to carry accessories is the same as a "bullet-proof vest".  ::)
Title: Re: Some thoughts on the "If someone else had a gun" argument (Pitt/Nads)
Post by: Airwolf on July 25, 2012, 02:57:18 PM
Looks like Wee Willy has no understanding of a military base. Military bases have the strictest gun control anywhere in the nation. The only people allowed to pack a loaded weapon are the MPs. If you own a gun it must be stored in the Arms Room at your unit except for when you take it to the range. Even when you draw your military weapon you don't get any ammunition until you are at the range and it is issued just before you shoot.



I never heard a thing about the victims being armed when the so called Major went off the rails down in Texas. It also seems that Pittstain never bothered to look up any facts about the entire event before posting that drek. As you said no one gets any ammunition until they are on the range or in the case of training in the field. It's issued from the Battalion Ammo NCO after he draws it from the Division AHA. or ammo holding area. In combat its kind of the same but the ammo would be drawn just before you go out on a mission and any of it that is still with you when you come back is turned into the same people to be returned to the AHA. Or it was like that when I handled the duties of a Battalion Ammo NCO for a short time at Ft. Drum before I got out of the active duty Army. I hated that job and Ft Drum.
Title: Re: Some thoughts on the "If someone else had a gun" argument (Pitt/Nads)
Post by: Airwolf on July 25, 2012, 03:15:00 PM
Gnads wouldn't know anything without a Google search and as we all know she can't be all that great at it. I'm not 100% sure but even with a level III vest if you get shot with a few rounds of say a .45 ACP or .357 Magnum your going to feel it and might even have a rib or two cracked or broken from the impact. Then again It may not. One thing it will do is get your attention and as someone said in an earlier posting your going to either flee or duck for cover if you have never been in a firefight.

So far s anyone knows that shooter was never in the service and has never before been in a firefight of any kind so it could be assumed that if someone was able to return fire that the shooting would have been stopped or at least directed away from those not armed at the time. They have been talking about this on the radio the past two days and they had a Navy SEAL interviewed on if he thought if having anyone armed would have made a difference and i missed that and caught the end . It sounds like a person would have had to be very well trained to have made any difference but who knows. 

http://www.kfab.com/player/?station=KFAB-AM&program_name=podcast&program_id=CrashDavis.xml&mid=22289538

Give it a listen.
Title: Re: Some thoughts on the "If someone else had a gun" argument (Pitt/Nads)
Post by: dutch508 on July 25, 2012, 06:12:44 PM
Weren't the only armed people to fire back police that responded to the emergency calls?  I seem to recall that it was a female officer that took Hasan down.

You are correct. None of the soldiers present had a weapon nor were they lowed to carry one, even in their cars. Hood has contract security as the mp troops are either deployed or trainning to be.

You can not, as a solder, own a weapon on base without the commanders authorization, you cannot carry on base even if you have a ccw permit. Any pow must be carried in a locked case secured in the trunk and only carried from your residance to the range and back.