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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: thundley4 on July 23, 2012, 11:06:32 PM
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Segami (3,657 posts)
California’s GOP Is Near COLLAPSE
Last edited Mon Jul 23, 2012, 04:10 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
"..According to a report in the New York Times, California’s Republican Party is on its way to becoming a minor party. Only 30% of the State’s electorate is Republican, compared to 43% who are Democrats and 21% who are independents. A consultant to the GOP, Allan Hoffenblum, pointed out that the 30% figure means Republicans can’t win a statewide election. “You just can’t get enough crossover voters. They have alienated large swaths of voters. They have become too doctrinaire on the social issues. It’s become a cult.? Wow! And this is a guy who works for the party!
In spite of the fact that the state is embroiled in economic turmoil while all three branches of its government are controlled by Democrats, not a single Republican holds statewide office. The prognosis for change isn’t good, either. Another Republican consultant, Steve Schmidt, said, “The institution of the California Republican Party, I would argue, has effectively collapsed. It doesn’t do any of the things that a political party should do. It doesn’t register voters. It doesn’t recruit candidates. It doesn’t raise money. The Republican Party in the state institutionally has become a small ideological club that is basically in the business of hunting out heretics…When you look at the population growth, the actual party is shrinking. It’s becoming more white. It’s becoming older.â€
On Sunday, the GOP’s presumptive presidential nominee, Mitt Romney, told a crowd at a San Francisco fundraiser that, “Boy, somebody’s got to do something for California…the right leadership would make a difference here.†Not only doesn’t the ‘right’ Republican leadership exist in the state, but 30% of the electorate can’t even come close to delivering the California vote to Romney.
Instead of indulging in pipe dreams, Romney and his GOP boosters ought to be worried about this old saying: “As California goes, so goes the nation.†Hunting out heretics…shrinking…becoming more white…aging? Could California be signaling not only the demise of the Republican Party in the state but also (gulp) sounding its death knell nationwide?
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/07/23/californias-gop-is-near-collapse/
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021007268
CaliforniaPeggy (96,551 posts)
1. This prospect makes me very, VERY happy!
cbrer (806 posts)
24. ++
The American People will awaken.
We can only hope they are waking up and that the 2010 elections were the beginning of that.
meow2u3 (12,209 posts)
4. 1 down, 49 to go
before the greatest threat to America and Americans finally bites the dust. Yes, I'm talking about the GOP--and especially the terrorists better known as the Tea Party types.
One of the greatest threats to America? He is currently pResident.
99Forever (1,062 posts)
15. Oh Hell yes!
“As California goes, so goes the nation.â€
Let us hope.
Sane people are praying that it doesn't.
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I am so glad we got out of that hell hole a year ago.
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Let them have California. The place is a dive anyhow.
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99Forever (1,062 posts)
15. Oh Hell yes!
“As California goes, so goes the nation.â€
Let us hope.
This used to be true but not anymore. California has stepped in it too many times and most of the country is sick of them. Most of the state is pretty darn nice and there are still a lot of good people living there but the big cities are a mess. The problem is with the large population centers, they are filled with LIBERALS and they have taken over politically placing a strangle hold on the rest of the state. Add to the mix Barbara Boxer and Dianne Feinstein and you have a real issue. If California doesn't wake up and deal with their economic issues and their crime rate they are going to implode. They just cannot continue along their current path and more liberalism is not the answer.
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Let them have California. The place is a dive anyhow.
My BIL is there along with my sister and their three daughters. He's stationed at Port Hueneme. I think they have two years to go.
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Let them have California. The place is a dive anyhow.
I say let California before the black pock mark on America it is on the fast track to becoming. Let it be the brown stain that it is already showing clear, smelly shades of. SHOW everybody what the DU, and the leftist way of thinking brings a state.
...and then take that star off the flag. We can live with 49 states, and it will only strengthen the resolve of decent, and civilized people about who, and where we want to be as a nation.
When a forrest grows too wild, there is a natural fire that sparks to purge it. I say let it happen.
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I haven't heard one person in dozens of years speak wistfully of California as in times past. It's become a place to be mocked and shunned, rightfully so.
I do recall some talk about northern CA splitting from the southern half. A move such as that might save some good and decent northern residents.
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Gotta love the RINOs who keep wanting to drop the social issues. Wasn't it just four years ago that a majority of Californians attempted to protect the definition of marriage in their state?
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I haven't heard one person in dozens of years speak wistfully of California as in times past. It's become a place to be mocked and shunned, rightfully so.
I do recall some talk about northern CA splitting from the southern half. A move such as that might save some good and decent northern residents.
Well, there was The Mason-Dixon line. But San Francisco is about the middle of the state so what will we call the line...Disco line...Fairy line...Nancy P. line?
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Don't forget, we have the VRWC earthquake machine.
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Don't forget, we have the VRWC earthquake machine.
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Divide and slide......works for me. :-)
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Let California fail, and screw bailing them out, they're on their own.
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Read this somewhere else, seems like California is trying to emulate Detroit.
If anyone thinks California is in great shape? they must be living in gated communities, the point comes though where their personal wealth will be effected, we'll see if they cheer so loudly after that happens.
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I am so glad we got out of that hell hole a year ago.
SIX years now.
DUmmies--you want to see dysfunction writ large? Witness California. Why, pray tell? Look no farther than your esteemed liberal policies.
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SIX years now.
DUmmies--you want to see dysfunction writ large? Witness California. Why, pray tell? Look no farther than your esteemed liberal policies.
I've never even had a desire to visit CA much less live there. Is there really such a difference between the northern and southern halves? I've always heard that and, if true, feel bad for those stuck with destructive liberal policies they voted against.
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I say just let the Hell's Angels take it all over.
Couldn't be much worse.
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I've never even had a desire to visit CA much less live there. Is there really such a difference between the northern and southern halves? I've always heard that and, if true, feel bad for those stuck with destructive liberal policies they voted against.
Yes, we are 'stuck" with being held hostage by S.F, LA, etc..... Don't judge the entire state and it's people by the small areas that have a strangle hold on the rest of us.
Sometimes having to read threads like this, makes me not want to be on this board.
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1. If the NYT says something then there is a 90% chance the opposite is true or will become true.
2. If it were not for the ports here the state would be sunk.
3. 35% of all USA welfare recipients live in kalifornia (that is not included in the blue states give more than red to the feds).
4. kalifornia is what the manifestation of what the big-gov totalitarians want; an elite class, a permanent lower class, and state workers. It is what the USSR and all socialist states eventually become, a nice place for state workers and elites. Other people not so much.
5. there is not so much a line running east-west but north-south that is 10 miles from the coast.
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California has 12% of the nation's Hispanic population yet has 33% of the nation's welfare recipients are hispanics living in California.
Source; United States Health and Human Services and the United States Department of Agriculture
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Yes, we are 'stuck" with being held hostage by S.F, LA, etc..... Don't judge the entire state and it's people by the small areas that have a strangle hold on the rest of us.
Sometimes having to read threads like this, makes me not want to be on this board.
No, I really don't judge the entire state or population. Like too many states some deep blue metropolitan areas hold entire states hostage. I do sympathize with those hostages and am thankful that Atlanta doesn't have the hold on GA that LA/SF have on CA.
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My BIL is there along with my sister and their three daughters. He's stationed at Port Hueneme. I think they have two years to go.
I hope he gets out. There are some serious issues with that state, and the citizens of it are going suffer for a long time to come.
I say let California before the black pock mark on America it is on the fast track to becoming. Let it be the brown stain that it is already showing clear, smelly shades of. SHOW everybody what the DU, and the leftist way of thinking brings a state.
...and then take that star off the flag. We can live with 49 states, and it will only strengthen the resolve of decent, and civilized people about who, and where we want to be as a nation.
When a forrest grows too wild, there is a natural fire that sparks to purge it. I say let it happen.
Yep. Let them become their own country. They will fail within a year and be begging to come back to us.
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I hope he gets out. There are some serious issues with that state, and the citizens of it are going suffer for a long time to come.
Yep. Let them become their own country. They will fail within a year and be begging to come back to us.
You give them a year?
You, sir, are an optimist.
I say 6 months, tops.
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I say let California before the black pock mark on America it is on the fast track to becoming. Let it be the brown stain that it is already showing clear, smelly shades of. SHOW everybody what the DU, and the leftist way of thinking brings a state.
...and then take that star off the flag. We can live with 49 states, and it will only strengthen the resolve of decent, and civilized people about who, and where we want to be as a nation.
When a forrest grows too wild, there is a natural fire that sparks to purge it. I say let it happen.
But what do we do about Camp Pendleton, Coronado, etc.?
Cindie
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But what do we do about Camp Pendleton, Coronado, etc.?
Cindie
We KEEP them! :killemall:
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You give them a year?
You, sir, are an optimist.
I say 6 months, tops.
I am trying to be nice and give them the benefit of the doubt. Truth be known, I wouldn't expect them to last three months.
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I am trying to be nice and give them the benefit of the doubt. Truth be known, I wouldn't expect them to last three months.
Now you're talking! :II:
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Yes, we are 'stuck" with being held hostage by S.F, LA, etc..... Don't judge the entire state and it's people by the small areas that have a strangle hold on the rest of us.
Sometimes having to read threads like this, makes me not want to be on this board.
I feel for you, but the worst thing the Federal government could do would be to set the precedent of pouring money from all the more-responsible states into the dysfunctional CA government 'For the cheeeeeeldrun' to 'Rescue' it, when it finally succeeds in pushing the state from the frying pan into the fire.
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I've said it many times here--future historians will point to the day the feds bailed out California as the beginnings of the Second Revolutionary War.
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I haven't heard one person in dozens of years speak wistfully of California as in times past. It's become a place to be mocked and shunned, rightfully so.
I do recall some talk about northern CA splitting from the southern half. A move such as that might save some good and decent northern residents.
It is the urban areas of CA that are the problem. Inland and far northern California (Alturas or Inyo County) is largely conservative and very conservative from election maps I have seen.
That can also be said of other states like New York, Illinois, Washington, Oregon, and Nevada. They are largely Democratic because of big cities. Outside of them they are quite conservative, especially Washington, Oregon, and Nevada.
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It is the urban areas of CA that are the problem. Inland and far northern California (Alturas or Inyo County) is largely conservative and very conservative from election maps I have seen.
That can also be said of other states like New York, Illinois, Washington, Oregon, and Nevada. They are largely Democratic because of big cities. Outside of them they are quite conservative, especially Washington, Oregon, and Nevada.
We have a winnah!
I do recall some talk about northern CA splitting from the southern half. A move such as that might save some good and decent northern residents.
"We" have talked about splitting the State. Considering that we, in the "North State", pretty much own all the water, scares the crap out of the turds in So Cal.
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Yes, we are 'stuck" with being held hostage by S.F, LA, etc..... Don't judge the entire state and it's people by the small areas that have a strangle hold on the rest of us.
Sometimes having to read threads like this, makes me not want to be on this board.
Don`t take it personal,have the same issue here in the eastern hell known as New York.
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We have a winnah!
I do recall some talk about northern CA splitting from the southern half. A move such as that might save some good and decent northern residents.
"We" have talked about splitting the State. Considering that we, in the "North State", pretty much own all the water, scares the crap out of the turds in So Cal.
I have heard of northern California, more specifically, far Northern California, where Redding, Alturas, and Eureka are want to split away and merge with Southern Oregon and call the state Jefferson. It has been like this since 1940s.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_(Pacific_state)
Also, Southeast California (Riverside County) want to split as well.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/06/new-state-of-south-california.html
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I have heard of northern California, more specifically, far Northern California, where Redding, Alturas, and Eureka are want to split away and merge with Southern Oregon and call the state Jefferson. It has been like this since 1940s.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_(Pacific_state)
Also, Southeast California (Riverside County) want to split as well.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/06/new-state-of-south-california.html
A couple of people I know who live in California say that Northern Cali is a whole different state than Southern Cali. I never been there, so I can't clarify it.