Liberal_in_LA (24,649 posts)http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002986526
Aurora shooter, graduated with highest honors, neuroscience degree only got him a job at McDonalds
Twenty-four-year-old James Holmes left different impressions on people he encountered in life. At the University of California, Riverside, where he graduated with honors in neuroscience in 2010, he's remembered as brilliant.
"He was an honor student, so academically he was at the top of the top," University Chancellor Tim White said at a press conference. "He really distinguished himself from an academic point of view during his four years with us, graduating with highest honors."
But back in the northern suburbs of San Diego, where Holmes grew up, friends came and went from his house all day. His father, surrounded by police, left for Denver early Friday morning.
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Anthony says James seemed frustrated after earning his undergraduate degree in neuroscience when the only job he could get was at McDonald's. This smart, shy, frustrated loner applied and was admitted to graduate school at the University of Colorado. He dropped out in June.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57477097/colo-suspect-james-holmes-smart-but-quiet-teachers-and-neighbors-say/
longship (12,353 posts)
7. But not all degrees are equal.
A UC degree is special, and near the top of his class would be very special.
My question is why did he choose that specific discipline? After all, maybe one could argue that his brain kind of did a reboot of sorts. Could this be another Charles Whitman case?
I wonder if Steven Novella will discuss this on next week's SGU or on his Blog, Neurologica.
What happens in the brain when a person does something like this?
Duer 157099 (15,012 posts)
12. Your ignorance is pardoned
I know plenty of people in neuroscience--and other sciences--that don't have more than a BS.
dimbear (3,305 posts)
2. Probably an ocean of student loan debt and no decent job. Bad for your brain.
How many more down the pike?
Certainly not an excuse to do so much evil.
flamingdem (14,854 posts)
5. True though this is a mini wake up call that young people will not all be able
to manage such difficult times.
Those that have psychic problems may either suffer more or make others suffer along with them
MoonRiver (16,441 posts)
8. But he had the Joker gig lined up, in his deluded brain at least.
Everyone loves the way Ledger portrayed the Joker. It was brilliant. Pure evil, and chaotic, but brilliant. Still, there is limits to how far a person will go. I dressed up like him for Halloween when TDK came out. However, that's as far as I went. You have to have your wires crossed to do something like this just because you're hard for a movie criminal. It's sick, and warped. Period. Anyone who would defend anything relating to Joker, and this mass murder is also sick, and warped.Although he referred to himself to police as "The Joker," I don't think the "Psycho fanboy" theory holds up in this case.
Just my 2 cents for anyone reading that may try to rationalize it in the future. (AHEM!)
Although he referred to himself to police as "The Joker," I don't think the "Psycho fanboy" theory holds up in this case.
Holmes dyed his hair and beard red in preparation for the massacre, but one of the Joker's most famous attributes is that his hair is green. An obsessed fanboy wouldn't have made that kind of mistake.
Although he referred to himself to police as "The Joker," I don't think the "Psycho fanboy" theory holds up in this case.
Holmes dyed his hair and beard red in preparation for the massacre, but one of the Joker's most famous attributes is that his hair is green. An obsessed fanboy wouldn't have made that kind of mistake.
7. But not all degrees are equal.
A UC degree is special :shortbus: , and near the top of his class would be very special :killemall: .
Although he referred to himself to police as "The Joker," I don't think the "Psycho fanboy" theory holds up in this case.
Holmes dyed his hair and beard red in preparation for the massacre, but one of the Joker's most famous attributes is that his hair is green. An obsessed fanboy wouldn't have made that kind of mistake.
Being a BS and MS graduate from the the UC system. The degrees are highly overrated, but you don't get the big bucks for a degree unless you sell it. My Alma Mata (UCSB) is in the top ten or five in the world for engineering. That's great but I learned far more by working while I went there than from any of the professors or the school. It opened some doors but you still had to prove yourself. I taught one of my professors machine tools programming (F codes). I was not impressed except for a few visiting profs, one being second in command on the Hoover. They wanted to make professors and theoreticians when we needed in the trench people.
Everyone loves the way Ledger portrayed the Joker. It was brilliant. Pure evil, and chaotic, but brilliant. Still, there is limits to how far a person will go. I dressed up like him for Halloween when TDK came out. However, that's as far as I went. You have to have your wires crossed to do something like this just because you're hard for a movie criminal. It's sick, and warped. Period. Anyone who would defend anything relating to Joker, and this mass murder is also sick, and warped.
Just my 2 cents for anyone reading that may try to rationalize it in the future. (AHEM!)
oomboo2
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Neuroscience Major- What Can You Do With It
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So I really love brains. I read a lot about neurology and I've developed a huge interest in it. I am hoping to pursue a neuroscience major and eventually go to med school to become a neurologist.
My questions:
1. In the event that I don't get into med school, what can one do with an undergraduate degree in neuroscience? Are there jobs? Would I need to at least try to get a masters?
2. Seeing as many colleges actually offer a "neuroscience" major, is there an abundance of people hoping to become neurologists. Do a disproportionately large percentage of med school hopefuls want to be neurologists?
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09-08-2010, 12:12 AM
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zapfino
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Posts: 2,052
1. No, there are not a lot of jobs specifically for a bachelor's-level neuroscience major. It's a liberal arts major so job opportunities are not a whole lot different from many other liberal arts majors. Possibly some opportunities in pharma sales, lab tech, etc. at the bachelor's-level. You would need a graduate degree, typically a doctorate, to do work specifically in neuroscience-related field.
2. Neuroscience is a hot major, particularly among pre-meds. Although it might be a good prep for someone who wants to become a neurologist, I don't know why some people have the idea that it's necessarily some sort of a "pre-neurology" major because it's not. (It's probably not a good idea anyway for people to be picking a particular medical specialty until they've been exposed to them in the med school clinical rotations.)
If you plan to get a graduate degree, neuroscience is an appropriate preparation for a number of fields (especially if one has the usual pre-med courses, too): psychology (neuroscience research, clinical neuropsychology, health psychology, rehabilitation psychology, general clinical psychology, general experimental psychology); medicine; biosciences (neuroscience research, neuro- & psycho-pharmacology), physical therapy (possible at master's level), speech pathology & audiology (possible at master's level), nursing (possible at master's level), special ed (brain injury---possible at master's level), brain injury rehab (applied behavior analysis---possible at master's level), gerontology. (For some of these fields, you can get admitted to graduate studies, but might have some undergrad pre-requisites to make up.)
http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/science-majors/993995-neuroscience-major-what-can-you-do.html
Aurora shooter, graduated with highest honors, neuroscience degree only got him a job at McDonalds
Twenty-four-year-old James Holmes left different impressions on people he encountered in life. At the University of California, Riverside, where he graduated with honors in neuroscience in 2010, he's remembered as brilliant.
"He was an honor student, so academically he was at the top of the top," University Chancellor Tim White said at a press conference. "He really distinguished himself from an academic point of view during his four years with us, graduating with highest honors."
7. But not all degrees are equal.
A UC degree is special, and near the top of his class would be very special.
My question is why did he choose that specific discipline? After all, maybe one could argue that his brain kind of did a reboot of sorts. Could this be another Charles Whitman case?
I wonder if Steven Novella will discuss this on next week's SGU or on his Blog, Neurologica.
What happens in the brain when a person does something like this?
The primitives need to go back to blaming Rush. When they start exploring possibilities more complicated, they just confuse themselves.
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The primitives need to go back to blaming Rush. When they start exploring possibilities more complicated, they just confuse themselves.
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