nadinbrzezinski (106,364 posts)
Stochastic Terrorism
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This s another case of it
The person who actually plants the bomb or assassinates the public official is not the stochastic terrorist, they are the "missile" set in motion by the stochastic terrorist. The stochastic terrorist is the person who uses mass media as their means of setting those "missiles" in motion.
Here's the mechanism spelled out concisely:
The stochastic terrorist is the person who uses mass media to broadcast memes that incite unstable people to commit violent acts.
One or more unstable people responds to the incitement by becoming a lone wolf and committing a violent act. While their action may have been statistically predictable (e.g. "given the provocation, someone will probably do such-and-such"), the specific person and the specific act are not predictable (yet).
The stochastic terrorist then has plausible deniability: "Oh, it was just a lone nut, nobody could have predicted he would do that, and I'm not responsible for what people in my audience do."
http://www.openleft.com/diary/21377/stochastic-terrorisma-powerful-highly-accurate-new-meme
Enrique (18,752 posts)
4. interesting, but how is this a case of it?
we don't even know the guy's motive yet. Or do we?
nadinbrzezinski (106,364 posts)
6. Remember what Rush said the other day
Abput Bane, Bain and the Dark Knight?
slackmaster (54,077 posts)
21. I'm not seeing a connection between such a trite conspiracy theory and some wack job shooting up...
...a theater full of people.
nadinbrzezinski (106,364 posts)
23. What you call conspiracy theory
Is well understood science at this point.
Have a good day, some folks simply do not get science.
SidDithers (21,806 posts)
77. Must be the kind of science that has 60cm in a meter...nt
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Hutzpa (9,374 posts)
16. Few names come to mind when you think of
stochastic terrorist; Rush, Hannity, Beck, Weiner etc.
They all should be frog marched to DHS if you ask me. Since they're stoking up home grown terror.
B2G (950 posts)
29. So let's suppose that it comes out that he is an OWS'er
Are you saying that the Occupy movement is responsible?
nadinbrzezinski (106,364 posts)
32. Isn't that a hell of a jump from data available?
But hey, expected.
32. Isn't that a hell of a jump from data available?
But hey, expected.
“As for his appearance in The Dark Knight Rises, Bane is a force for evil and the destruction of the status quo,†Dixon said. “He’s far more akin to an Occupy Wall Street type if you’re looking to cast him politically. And if there ever was a Bruce Wayne running for the White House it would have to be Romney.â€
nadinbrzezinski (106,365 posts)
58. I know.
Many a times I wonder if real life missiles actually understand the consequences as well.
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nadinbrzezinski (106,365 posts)
58. I know.
Many a times I wonder if real life missiles actually understand the consequences as well.
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No - It isn't.Holmes was an OWS sympathizer, and indeed a "Black Bloc" Anarchist.
Kid was dressed like a typical OWS Black Bloc protester (No Nads, they really aren't separate - Black Block has become OWS military arm, and operates such that they give the rest of OWS plausible deniability) engaged in attacking those who are supporting a film made in part by a known 1% conservative, Chuck Dixon.
So, Nads... Using your "stochastic terrorist" theory, OWS is just as likely to be responsible for this as any conservative you mention -perhaps even moreso.
nadinbrzezinski (106,364 posts)
6. Remember what Rush said the other day
Abput Bane, Bain and the Dark Knight?
btw, Chuck Dixon's a conservative? SWEET! I met him at a comic convention a few years ago and got his autograph!
Well I'll be. One of those 'smart missiles' must have just gone speeding by the house....had it's boom box wide open going... BOOM...BOOM...BOOM.
Frog marched should be banned words, when used together.
Nope that was a Not So Smart missile. :-)
What would we call it when a parade of French soldiers has passed by then? :-)
I dunno? What is the term for when surrendered troops are paraded through their own capital in disgrace? :-)
What would we call it when a parade of French soldiers has passed by then? :-)
Bwahhhaaaaaaahaaaaa. Nads takes several hot rounds to the rump in this one. Priceless. Even the DUmmies are on to her sthick. :bwah:It will not be surprising if gNads gives another GBCW and/or refuses to make any more crunchy posts.
I nadined "stochastic terrorism" and it turns out to be a term completely made up by the madmen at the Daily KOS. So that is nad's standard of "science."
I Nadined "stochastic terrorism" and it turns out to be a term completely made up by the madmen at the Daily KOS. So that is Nad's standard of "science."
No wonder rocks view her as in intellectual inferior.
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Fri Jul 20, 2012, 05:42 PM
Zax2me (1,855 posts)
100. What a load of crap.
I remember when this same bull was said about the lunatic that tried to murder Gabrielle Giffords.
Until it was leaked how much he hated George little-bush.
Then it kind of died down.
This particular lunatic painted his hair red and told police he was the joker - after shooting up a Batman movie viewing. From that you get stochastic terrorism?
This all borders on sick.
Sick that some are politicizing a tragedy while bodies still litter the floor.
Stochastic terrorism?
My ass.
Bush told Rush to tell the TEA party to commit acts of domestic terrorism, according to the owebuma administration aka the owebumaManiaMedia. So, as usual, it's Bush's fault. This incident may lead to at least one banned word.
Could I nominate stochastic?
[snip]
Stochastic terrorism is the use of mass communications to stir up random lone wolves to carry out violent or terrorist acts that are statistically predictable but individually unpredictable.
This is what occurs when Bin Laden releases a video that stirs random extremists halfway around the globe to commit a bombing or shooting.
This is also the term for what Beck, O'Reilly, Hannity, and others do. And this is what led directly and predictably to a number of cases of ideologically-motivated murder similar to the Tucson shootings.
Update: the mechanism spelled out.
(This update is to resolve some ambiguity.)
The person who actually plants the bomb or assassinates the public official is not the stochastic terrorist, they are the "missile" set in motion by the stochastic terrorist. The stochastic terrorist is the person who uses mass media as their means of setting those "missiles" in motion.
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If I understand what Nads is saying then Karl Marx is the greatest stochastic terrorist in History.
You can't argue with "science."
Could I nominate stochastic?
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What would we call it when a parade of French soldiers has passed by then? :-)
The French Olympic track and field team?
The French Olympic track and field team?Why are they running the other way? :???:
Why are they running the other way? :???:French WWII surplus rifles, never fired, only dropped once.
Star Member fascisthunter (27,513 posts)
105. you have quite a fan club
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same folks every time.
Star Member nadinbrzezinski (106,739 posts)
106. And most are on ignore for good reason
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You'd figure after a while they'd get tired!
Star Member fascisthunter (27,513 posts)
108. good idea
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loli phabay (474 posts)
122. i thought the movie was just released, not understanding this one at all.
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SlimJimmy (1,500 posts)
123. The OP is claiming that this is a case of stochastic terrorism. In other words, the act of
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terrorism influenced directly by an outside force. How is that possible if Limbaugh's comments happened months after the suspect started planning and buying material for the attack?
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Sun Jul 22, 2012, 05:35 PM
Star Member zappaman (5,542 posts)
124. The OP has learned a new term and is edumacating us.
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The OP knows all...
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SlimJimmy (1,500 posts)
125. The OP knows all...
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The OP doesn't know *jack* in regards to this subject.
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French WWII surplus rifles, never fired, only dropped once.
Star Member nadinbrzezinski (106,739 posts)IIRC (from my pre-ban time) when a poster is ignored, that poster's responses are not seen by the person ignoring them. So, if gNads is in fact ignoring these 'fans', how does she manage to respond to so many of them. I think the threads to 'iggy' are just that, threats, no doubt hoping that will intimidate them into compliance.
106. And most are on ignore for good reason
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You'd figure after a while they'd get tired!
That woman(?) is a rock.
Star Member nadinbrzezinski (106,739 posts)
106. And most are on ignore for good reason
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You'd figure after a while they'd get tired!
How can you ignore the pure comedy gold that you are famous for posting nads? :rotf:
Objection to the epithet "rock", sir.
Engraved stone carvings have been found to contain wisdom that has endured through the ages.
No amount of forcible imprinting will ever compel Bzzt-inski to convey a factual statement.