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Current Events => Terrorism In the US and Around the World => Topic started by: Revolution on July 18, 2012, 09:30:34 PM

Title: Terror Relatives Suing U.S.
Post by: Revolution on July 18, 2012, 09:30:34 PM
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Relatives of three U.S. citizens killed in drone strikes in Yemen last year, including radical Muslim cleric Anwar al-Awlaki, are suing the U.S. government for targeting the terrorism suspects "without due process."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/18/families-us-citizens-killed-in-yemen-drone-strikes-file-lawsuit/#ixzz2120d7A5Y
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/18/families-us-citizens-killed-in-yemen-drone-strikes-file-lawsuit/

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tweb2TBoxT4[/youtube]

Too bad for all of you. Due Process doesn't apply to you. The protections under our Constitution don't apply to you. Awlaki lost any and all of OUR rights to those amenities when he turned against the U.S. and decided to become a radical terrorist.

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwrel&v=M5QGkOGZubQ&NR=1[/youtube]

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Title: Re: Terror Relatives Suing U.S.
Post by: Kyle Ricky on July 18, 2012, 09:33:26 PM
They are wasting their time. Good luck to them.
Title: Re: Terror Relatives Suing U.S.
Post by: thundley4 on July 18, 2012, 09:35:23 PM
I don't know. If they find the right judge, and it's in the right area, they might win.
Title: Re: Terror Relatives Suing U.S.
Post by: Revolution on July 18, 2012, 09:40:54 PM
I don't know. If they find the right judge, and it's in the right area, they might win.

I hate to say you may be right, but lets hope you're wrong.
Title: Re: Terror Relatives Suing U.S.
Post by: Chris_ on July 18, 2012, 09:48:46 PM
There are no shortage of liberals judges in the federal court system.
Title: Re: Terror Relatives Suing U.S.
Post by: Revolution on July 18, 2012, 09:49:45 PM
There are no shortage of liberals judges in the federal court system.

Getting rid of the 9th district would certainly help.
Title: Re: Terror Relatives Suing U.S.
Post by: Chris_ on July 18, 2012, 09:50:42 PM
Getting rid of the 9th district would certainly help.
I liked Lex Luthor's idea.
Title: Re: Terror Relatives Suing U.S.
Post by: thundley4 on July 18, 2012, 09:52:10 PM
I hate to say you may be right, but lets hope you're wrong.

If it is okay for other governments to be sued in US courts for acts of terror, then why shouldn't the US government?
Title: Re: Terror Relatives Suing U.S.
Post by: Revolution on July 18, 2012, 09:55:45 PM
Because I don't believe in all these flying lawsuits. I believe business should be handled in a more personal way. Let them try it. We'll just kill them as well.
Title: Re: Terror Relatives Suing U.S.
Post by: Zathras on July 19, 2012, 01:13:08 AM
John Wayne said it best in the film The Green Berets....

"Out here, due process is a bullet."
Title: Re: Terror Relatives Suing U.S.
Post by: CG6468 on July 19, 2012, 08:43:44 AM
Due process is in OUR constitution and does not apply to other countries.

If this continues, the damned supremes better toss it out.
Title: Re: Terror Relatives Suing U.S.
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on July 19, 2012, 09:39:25 AM
Part of me wants to tell them to FOAD, but part of me says this is Obama and Holder reaping the whirlwind for all their 'Due porcess of law' posturing over trying the Gitmo dirtballs in civilian courts as 'Criminals' rather than in military proceedings as unlawful enemy combatants engaged in war with the US and committing war crimes.
Title: Re: Terror Relatives Suing U.S.
Post by: JohnnyReb on July 19, 2012, 10:23:51 AM
Obama bans the use of "Islam" and "Jihad"....gonna let in more illegal aliens and ragheads....JohnnyReb takes note....decides this is going to be a two front war for true patriots....believes he needs to buy more ammo and clips.
Title: Re: Terror Relatives Suing U.S.
Post by: txradioguy on July 19, 2012, 11:10:36 AM
I don't know. If they find the right judge, and it's in the right area, they might win.

Well we've certainly got the right President to allow this to happen.
Title: Re: Terror Relatives Suing U.S.
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on July 19, 2012, 03:35:32 PM
Well we've certainly got the right President to allow this to happen.

No, because he'd be blamed for it.  If the hit had occurred under Bush, you'd be right, Obama would gladly take political advantage of that scenario no matter what kind of disastrous precedent it might set.  However, the way litigation works, there won't be any definitive action on this, even assuming it isn't just thrown out on a summary judgment motion as an act of state.
Title: Re: Terror Relatives Suing U.S.
Post by: thundley4 on July 19, 2012, 03:43:44 PM
No, because he'd be blamed for it.  If the hit had occurred under Bush, you'd be right, Obama would gladly take political advantage of that scenario no matter what kind of disastrous precedent it might set.  However, the way litigation works, there won't be any definitive action on this, even assuming it isn't just thrown out on a summary judgment motion as an act of state.

Obama has said that it's his decision as to who is put on the "kill list".  Wouldn't that make him personally responsible when "innocents" are killed?
Title: Re: Terror Relatives Suing U.S.
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on July 19, 2012, 04:30:47 PM
Possibly, or at least the US, if you could get a court to rule that he clearly exceeded the bounds of a lawful act of state doing it.  I doubt if any court would want to touch that, and they'd do their best to dump it out on some other basis without actually addressing that.  Even Lib judges under a GOP President would much prefer to duck that one.