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Title: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: FreeBorn on July 18, 2012, 07:45:58 AM
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The jury posse is in~

PHOENIX –  Members of an Arizona sheriff's volunteer posse claim that President Barack Obama's birth certificate is definitely fraudulent.
Members of Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio's posse said in March that there was probable cause that Obama's long-form birth certificate released by the White House in April 2011 was a computer-generated forgery.
Now, Arpaio says investigators are positive it's fraudulent.


Read more: http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2012/07/18/arpaio-claims-obama-birth-certificate-is-fake/#ixzz20ydO9Jv4

Well, here we go. Sheriff Joe has issued his opinion in the wake of his investigation of the purported long form birth certificate of Barack 0bama issued by the White House and touted as genuine.

I'm not holding my breath that there will be any bells & whistles resulting from this in the halls of congress even though there damn well should be. If this is indeed a forgery then it means that the greatest fraud in the history of the United States has been perpetrated upon the people. The leftists in the MSM? Sure, I expect them to howl and scoff as they have all along and continue to marginalize the issue but now is the time for more serious inspection and litigation in this matter.
The cat is now out of the bag and if congress does nothing at this point I for one will have very little faith left in this congress. The Justice Department? Ppphhttt... we all know the pursuit of truth and justice is not part of their agenda.

Really congress is all we have left and as I see it the ball is in their court. I'm not holding my breath for Romney to make hay of this either. This whole thing has put me in a Missouri state of mind, SHOW ME!
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: formerlurker on July 18, 2012, 08:04:24 AM
The link goes to the home page, however I did read this morning on AOL news.    The assertion that this is a fraudulent document is actually credible at this point.

Does this mean there is no birth certificate?   no.  However it does raise eyebrows.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: wasp69 on July 18, 2012, 08:34:51 AM
The link goes to the home page, however I did read this morning on AOL news.    The assertion that this is a fraudulent document is actually credible at this point.

Does this mean there is no birth certificate?   no.  However it does raise eyebrows.

It does create quite a quandary for barry:  Does he try and get in front of truly legitimate questions and analysis of his past by releasing records he has spent in excess of a million dollars to hide, or does he continue to stonewall?  It only takes one chip in a windshield to turn the whole thing into a cracked mess...
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: Gina on July 18, 2012, 08:35:46 AM
Even if he admitted to it they would still say it was okay.  They don't care about the biggest fraud in US history, Obama  :rant:
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: Gina on July 18, 2012, 08:36:57 AM
I really wish all these distractions would quit popping up.  It's almost like Obama and Romney are throwing this shit out there instead of working on what is wrong with America.  The Economy.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: seahorse513 on July 18, 2012, 09:03:38 AM
I really wish all these distractions would quit popping up.  It's almost like Obama and Romney are throwing this shit out there instead of working on what is wrong with America.  The Economy.
I agree , Gina, They should stop flinging the mud, and tell us the real issues that they are going to fix.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: claret1995 on July 18, 2012, 09:21:07 AM
I agree , Gina, They should stop flinging the mud, and tell us the real issues that they are going to fix.

I would agree...........BUT............Barry and Eric have F**KED with Sherrif Joe for political reasons only...

NOW THEIR CHICKENS HAVE COME HOME TO ROOST............
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: Kyle Ricky on July 18, 2012, 09:46:22 AM
You can guarantee that if this was Romney with a fake birth certificate, the MSM would be hammering it big time. They wouldn't let up for anything!

There are reasons why obama (He doesn't deserve to have his name capitalized) is hiding his records. This could very well be the reason. It is already known that he wasn't raised in this country, and never came over until he got into college. The MSM is covering up for him in every way since Sunday, when if he was a Republican, or anyone other than a liberal for that matter, they would be crucifying him!
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: BigTex on July 18, 2012, 09:47:45 AM
I really wish all these distractions would quit popping up.  It's almost like Obama and Romney are throwing this shit out there instead of working on what is wrong with America.  The Economy.

Romney tried to focus on the economy but all the "conservatives" whined at him for not battling Obama on his petty attacks and not making petty attacks of his own.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: Revolution on July 18, 2012, 10:22:36 AM
Like I said, a decade down the line, we'll all find out 110% what's true, and a lot of us will look back, shake our heads, and cuss. Hopefully though, we NEVER let leftards live it down from that point on.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: Kyle Ricky on July 18, 2012, 10:33:51 AM
Like I said, a decade down the line, we'll all find out 110% what's true, and a lot of us will look back, shake our heads, and cuss. Hopefully though, we NEVER let leftards live it down from that point on.

They will just push it under the rug like they did with the Civil War, the KKK, the Civil Rights Act, and say it was all the Republicans who did it...
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: CG6468 on July 18, 2012, 10:36:02 AM
They will just push it under the rug like they did with the Civil War, the KKK, the Civil Rights Act, and say it was all the Republicans who did it...

But we can yank that rug out from underneath them.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: Kyle Ricky on July 18, 2012, 10:38:31 AM
But we can yank that rug out from underneath them.

We do that with all the things in their history, but they still spin it to make it look like it was all the Republicans. That is how they work. They all live in a world of denial and blame everything in history that happen on the Republicans, even if their is plain proof that they are the ones who did it.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: Bad Dog on July 18, 2012, 10:39:05 AM
The press ignored the hell out of the Swift Boat Patriots. But, I like to think they got through enough to cost Lurch the election. Most DUmmies fervently believe that to be the case.  Unfortunately, ABM & Co. have nobody but themselves to blame for Sheriff Joe's notoriety.  So enough of the press is trapped into reporting this news thereby planting a nagging doubt in reasonable people's minds.  This is the best we can hope for as Boner would dissolve in a puddle of urine if presented with this issue.  I think Corsi makes Rove look like an amateur.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: Kyle Ricky on July 18, 2012, 10:41:30 AM
The press ignored the hell out of the Swift Boat Patriots. But, I like to think they got through enough to cost Lurch the election. Most DUmmies fervently believe that to be the case.  Unfortunately, ABM & Co. have nobody but themselves to blame for Sheriff Joe's notoriety.  So enough of the press is trapped into reporting this news thereby planting a nagging doubt in reasonable people's minds.  This is the best we can hope for as Boner would dissolve in a puddle of urine if presented with this issue.  I think Corsi makes Rove look like an amateur.

I believe strongly that it was the swift boat patriots that cost him the election. It really went down hill for him when they released the tv show about him. That was beautiful...
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: txradioguy on July 18, 2012, 11:30:33 AM
At this point in time...why is this even front page news?

This belongs in either election 2012 or my personal preference Mind Numbing Stupidity

Ok so lets say it's a fake?  Doesn't change a thing that's happened over the last 3 1/2 years.  You can't put toothpaste back in the tube.

AND if you try...you look no better and just as crazy as the DUmmies that are still trying to re-fight the 2000 "stolen" election.

There are more important...more relevant things we should be concerned about with this President at this point in history than this distraction.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: Bad Dog on July 18, 2012, 11:34:11 AM
At this point in time...why is this even front page news?

This belongs in either election 2012 or my personal preference Mind Numbing Stupidity

Ok so lets say it's a fake?  Doesn't change a thing that's happened over the last 3 1/2 years.  You can't put toothpaste back in the tube.

AND if you try...you look no better and just as crazy as the DUmmies that are still trying to re-fight the 2000 "stolen" election.

There are more important...more relevant things we should be concerned about with this President at this point in history than this distraction.

No offense but, that was what a lot of folks are saying about the Swift Boat Patriots.  Romney should distance himself from this & let Corsi & Co do their thing....free speach & all.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: txradioguy on July 18, 2012, 11:50:35 AM
No offense but, that was what a lot of folks are saying about the Swift Boat Patriots.


Not anyone I knew.  Not anyone on this board or at CU.  I didn't know anyone that said that about the SBP folks at FR either.

ANd that has nothing to do with what I asked about how this changes anything over the last three years or how it makes us look like we have our own version of BDS.

If this was prior to 2008 and this kind of evidence came out...you're damn right it should have been shouted from the rooftops.

But it's not 2008.

SBP laid all their cards on the table about Kerry prior to anyone casting a vote in a general election.

That book and it's impact would have had zero effect had it come out in 2007.

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Romney should distance himself from this & let Corsi & Co do their thing....free speach & all.

Corsi hit a home run with his book on Kerry.  Doesn't mean he can catch lightning in a bottle twice.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: Kyle Ricky on July 18, 2012, 11:55:17 AM
There is another book coming out as well. The guy (I can't remember his name - I want to say Klein?) who wrote it was on Glenn Beck this morning.

Edit: Yes, it was Ed Klein. His book is titled 'The Amateur'...
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: CG6468 on July 18, 2012, 01:08:26 PM
We do that with all the things in their history, but they still spin it to make it look like it was all the Republicans. That is how they work. They all live in a world of denial and blame everything in history that happen on the Republicans, even if their is plain proof that they are the ones who did it.

It would work if we had a card-carrying prick as a candidate. Chris Christie comes to mind.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: RightCoast on July 18, 2012, 01:19:32 PM
I really wish all these distractions would quit popping up.  It's almost like Obama and Romney are throwing this shit out there instead of working on what is wrong with America.  The Economy.

Unfortunately this is far more then a distraction, or "birther" B.S., there is a huge national security threat here.

http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/arpaio-obama-probe-finds-national-security-threat/ (http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/arpaio-obama-probe-finds-national-security-threat/)
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: txradioguy on July 18, 2012, 01:22:14 PM
Unfortunately this is far more then a distraction, or "birther" B.S., there is a huge national security threat here.

http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/arpaio-obama-probe-finds-national-security-threat/ (http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/arpaio-obama-probe-finds-national-security-threat/)

And what exactly does it change that's happened over the last 3 years?
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: Kyle Ricky on July 18, 2012, 01:22:46 PM
It would work if we had a card-carrying prick as a candidate. Chris Christie comes to mind.

That I agree with. Christy would punch them in the face every chance he got. I would love to see a debate between him and obama, or even him and crazy joe. That would be pants!


Unfortunately this is far more then a distraction, or "birther" B.S., there is a huge national security threat here.

http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/arpaio-obama-probe-finds-national-security-threat/ (http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/arpaio-obama-probe-finds-national-security-threat/)

I am telling you that this is why he won't release any of his records. He knows it will murder him ....
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: RightCoast on July 18, 2012, 01:32:05 PM
And what exactly does it change that's happened over the last 3 years?


It won't change a thing, but the time has come for conservatives to stop being afraid of talking about the birth cert.  It's fake.  Arm yourself with the truth and be able to articulate that fact to anyone that will listen without backing down.  It is not a distraction - everything else is a distraction away from that.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: txradioguy on July 18, 2012, 01:46:02 PM

It won't change a thing, but the time has come for conservatives to stop being afraid of talking about the birth cert.

I haven't seen a Conservative afraid to talk about it.  But by and large we all realize that Obama is doing other things far more important right now that need to be dealt with.

In the grand scheme of things this isn't in the top ten right now.


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It's fake.
 

Ok.
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Arm yourself with the truth and be able to articulate that fact to anyone that will listen without backing down.  It is not a distraction - everything else is a distraction away from that.

Do you realize how crazy that sounds?  You're saying this is more important than ACA repeal...bypassing the Appointments Clause...not defending DOMA...and putting us further in debt than the 43 previous holders of his office combined?

All of that plus more that I haven't mentioned and you think a birth certificate of questionable origin is MORE important?

Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: CG6468 on July 18, 2012, 01:51:49 PM
What exactly are the consequences for him and for this country if he isn't a citizen? What action(s) will be taken?
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: RightCoast on July 18, 2012, 01:52:32 PM
I haven't seen a Conservative afraid to talk about it.  But by and large we all realize that Obama is doing other things far more important right now that need to be dealt with.

In the grand scheme of things this isn't in the top ten right now.

 

Ok.
Do you realize how crazy that sounds?  You're saying this is more important than ACA repeal...bypassing the Appointments Clause...not defending DOMA...and putting us further in debt than the 43 previous holders of his office combined?

All of that plus more that I haven't mentioned and you think a birth certificate of questionable origin is MORE important?



If the man that did all that should never have been elected in the first place, yes, far more important from a Constitutional standpoint.  Barack should never have been on a single ballot. The fastest way to reverse the shit that has happened is to wake up the American people and throw that fool out of office and into jail - now that isn't going to happen, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't happen.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: njpines on July 18, 2012, 01:59:34 PM
It would work if we had a card-carrying prick as a candidate. Chris Christie comes to mind.

This could be good:

Christie to give keynote speech at Republican Convention (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/christie_keynote_tip_R3e3TrQVVURTxpYfdHXkbJ)
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: txradioguy on July 18, 2012, 02:02:54 PM
If the man that did all that should never have been elected in the first place, yes, far more important from a Constitutional standpoint.  Barack should never have been on a single ballot.

And how is that relevant today.  As I said earlier you can't put toothpaste back in the tube.



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The fastest way to reverse the shit that has happened is to wake up the American people and throw that fool out of office and into jail - now that isn't going to happen, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't happen.

Actually the fastest way to reverse what he's done is vote his ass out of office in 4 months.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: Kyle Ricky on July 18, 2012, 02:07:29 PM
What exactly are the consequences for him and for this country if he isn't a citizen? What action(s) will be taken?

Well, they could do a couple of things: Strip him of his pension, arrest him and throw him in jail for treason, deport him back to wherever he came from. It would be awesome if any, or all, of those things happen.

Treason is punishable by death, but since they never did anything to John F'n Kerry, they probably won't do anything to obama either.

This could be good:

Christie to give keynote speech at Republican Convention (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/christie_keynote_tip_R3e3TrQVVURTxpYfdHXkbJ)

I can not wait to see that!
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: njpines on July 18, 2012, 02:34:08 PM
I can not wait to see that!


Punches will not be pulled
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: Bad Dog on July 18, 2012, 02:39:02 PM
What exactly are the consequences for him and for this country if he isn't a citizen? What action(s) will be taken?

Best we can hope for is to not reelect him. I don't believe this is the single most important issue in this campaign but, it is one more bleeding cut for his campaign.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: Kyle Ricky on July 18, 2012, 02:41:19 PM
Punches will not be pulled


That is what will make it so great ...
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: vesta111 on July 18, 2012, 03:49:15 PM
That is what will make it so great ...

Screw the Birth Certificate , I want to see the Birth Certificate he got when his step father adopted him.

By law back then when a stepfather adopted his wife's child, both had to adopt him.    Sounds odd but the original certificate is sealed and a new one is issued with the name of the adopted parent and information replacing the male parents name.

Easy to spot when the certificate has the date of birth a few years before the parents ever met.   

All information on Mother including place of birth and hospital with name of doctor who delivered him stays the same.   Information on the adoptive father is changed to reflect the new fathers name, place of residence, race and occupation.

My Son was born in Hawaii and I checked out his Birth Certificate and it is identical with my other kids born in other states.   

Question here was Obama ever legally adopted, if so, did his family use both certificates to get grants by fraud depending on where he went to school????

Using both Certificates Obama could get #ss cards in both names, Passports in both names. and apply as a foreign student here and a foreign student over there.

My friend had a devil of a time when medical problems arose and she needed her birth fathers information.   She had the so called  Birth certificate given when she was adopted, and her maternal grandma had the one that was the first and allowed her to track down the family to get medical information.

So is all this an elaborate hoax to protect Obamas mother who may not have ever been married.  She did claim to have married 2 Muslims and the first all ready had a wife.  Don't know about the second in Indonesia but this child was born into a very dysfunctional family.     

Remember at that time a woman could name anyone as the father of her baby, and it was rare for a white society family to intermarry once or twice with non Americans.

I wonder when and what year he began to use the Sir Name of Obama and why he changed it.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: thundley4 on July 18, 2012, 03:51:14 PM
Screw the Birth Certificate , I want to see the Birth Certificate he got when his step father adopted him.


:hi5:
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: Kyle Ricky on July 18, 2012, 04:35:30 PM
Screw the Birth Certificate , I want to see the Birth Certificate he got when his step father adopted him.

I did not think of that. Good one, Vesta.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: JohnnyReb on July 18, 2012, 05:27:08 PM
I know not of what I speak but what if......

He had to show a foreign birth certificate to get special aid/money for his acceptance and education at those fancy schools he attended? Would that not be part of his school records?
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: Kyle Ricky on July 18, 2012, 05:59:32 PM
I know not of what I speak but what if......

He had to show a foreign birth certificate to get special aid/money for his acceptance and education at those fancy schools he attended? Would that not be part of his school records?

Yes, it would be!  :cheersmate:
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: formerlurker on July 18, 2012, 06:09:10 PM

All of that plus more that I haven't mentioned and you think a birth certificate of questionable origin is MORE important?


The Sheriff can present whatever he wants, and yes it is important to him.

Like I said, does it prove there isn't a birth certificate?  no.   But it does show what Obama presented was altered.  That is of course news.

The GOP is not pushing this story, so I don't know why you are reacting this way.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: Revolution on July 18, 2012, 06:19:45 PM
And how is that relevant today.  As I said earlier you can't put toothpaste back in the tube.



Actually the fastest way to reverse what he's done is vote his ass out of office in 4 months.

Or impeach his illegal ass in 1 or 2 which won't happen, but would be what I prefer.

You may not be able to put the toothpaste back in the tube, but you can sure as hell clean it up, and get the bathroom counter back the way it was. Clean, and pristine.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: seahorse513 on July 18, 2012, 06:35:18 PM
The Sheriff can present whatever he wants, and yes it is important to him.

Like I said, does it prove there isn't a birth certificate?  no.   But it does show what Obama presented was altered.  That is of course news.

The GOP is not pushing this story, so I don't know why you are reacting this way.
Bacause POTUS lied about it. He wasn't thoroughly vetted, he accepted a nomination, knowing full well he wasn't eligible, and/ or the people in charge swept that under the rug. People are nervous that he will voted in again and will try to end term limits and other business of naughtiness...
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: YupItsMe on July 18, 2012, 08:53:23 PM
This is going nowhere.  It sucks!   Believe me I question his nationality, but the way mainstream mefia will spin this will hurt us more than help.  :banghead:
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: Bad Dog on July 18, 2012, 10:39:12 PM
This is going nowhere.  It sucks!   Believe me I question his nationality, but the way mainstream mefia will spin this will hurt us more than help.  :banghead:

It won't jurt "us" at all. If by us you mean the Republican Party,  All Romney has to do is dodge the questions (which gets the issue in the news) and let Sheriff Joe continue to gnaw on ABM's leg. Just like Bush did with the Swift Boat Patriots. We need to stop letting the MSM tell us what is off limits for "us".
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: FreeBorn on July 19, 2012, 10:20:13 AM
At this point in time...why is this even front page news?

This belongs in either election 2012 or my personal preference Mind Numbing Stupidity

Ok so lets say it's a fake?  Doesn't change a thing that's happened over the last 3 1/2 years.  You can't put toothpaste back in the tube.

AND if you try...you look no better and just as crazy as the DUmmies that are still trying to re-fight the 2000 "stolen" election.

There are more important...more relevant things we should be concerned about with this President at this point in history than this distraction.

Just curious, what's your DU name?

The thought occurred to me, why should we all be limited to only half of your posts in support of 0bama when we could all get the full picture.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: FreeBorn on July 19, 2012, 10:25:10 AM
Or impeach his illegal ass in 1 or 2 which won't happen, but would be what I prefer.

You may not be able to put the toothpaste back in the tube, but you can sure as hell clean it up, and get the bathroom counter back the way it was. Clean, and pristine.
:hi5: See you at the polls in NO-vember.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: dutch508 on July 19, 2012, 10:26:15 AM
Just curious, what's your DU name?

The thought occurred to me, why should we all be limited to only half of your posts in support of 0bama when we could all get the full picture.

Hey, just a thought, why don't you go back to sucking ronulan cock.

****stick.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: FreeBorn on July 19, 2012, 10:30:31 AM
Hey, just a thought, why don't you go back to sucking ronulan cock.

****stick.
I live in Leicester NY, come see me ****stick. We'll see if your fat aging *** can back up that mouth.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: txradioguy on July 19, 2012, 10:49:41 AM
The Sheriff can present whatever he wants, and yes it is important to him.

Like I said, does it prove there isn't a birth certificate?  no.   But it does show what Obama presented was altered.  That is of course news.

The GOP is not pushing this story, so I don't know why you are reacting this way.

Because it's a distraction.  And you're falling for it.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: txradioguy on July 19, 2012, 10:50:48 AM
This is going nowhere.  It sucks!   Believe me I question his nationality, but the way mainstream mefia will spin this will hurt us more than help.  :banghead:

Ding ding ding! we have teh winnah!
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: Bad Dog on July 19, 2012, 10:55:19 AM
Ding ding ding! we have teh winnah!

Some folks sure like to let the media jerk their chain. 
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: txradioguy on July 19, 2012, 11:01:16 AM
Just curious, what's your DU name?

It's real esy to remember...ready?  GFYS.  Write that down then lurn on over to the DUmp and try to find to mmmm k?

 :whatever:

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The thought occurred to me,

There was your first mistake troll.


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why should we all be limited to only half of your posts in support of 0bama when we could all get the full picture.

So because I'm not in the tank for what is the Conservative version of 9/11 trutherism I'm an Obama supporter?

Look why don't you slither back on over to the DailyPaul or RonPaul.com or better yet back to FreeRepublic.  From what I've been told that place has sunk into just the kind of truther birther John Birch Society World Nut Daily cess pool you'd love to swim around in.

Amazing how not one of you birther believers can answer the one simple question I keep asking...which is..at this point what the hell is it going to change?

And the more you guys go on about this...when there are far more important things to worry about in relation to what Obama is doing to ruin this country...the more I'm convinced you're just as nutty and uninterested in the real problems of this country as the idiots at DU.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: txradioguy on July 19, 2012, 11:02:50 AM
I live in Leicester NY, come see me ****stick. We'll see if your fat aging *** can back up that mouth.

(http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2497/badasso.jpg)

Save your internet bad ass routine for the people at FR.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: txradioguy on July 19, 2012, 11:05:57 AM
Some folks sure like to let the media jerk their chain. 

Look I'm not sure I believe he's a citizen of the U.S. or not.  And I've said that here before.

But the fact of the matter is...there are more worrisome things this man is doing from the Office of the President that we should concentrate on.

This is a side issue that we can't let ourselves get distracted by.  We can't undo the past 3 1/2 years of what he's done whether the BC is a fake or not.

ANd trying to convince people otherwise is like the DUmmies thinking that if they could get one more recount to prove Gore won in 2000 they could undo the bush years 12 years after the fact.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: dutch508 on July 19, 2012, 11:18:18 AM
I live in Leicester NY, come see me ****stick. We'll see if your fat aging *** can back up that mouth.

Big Ghey new Yanker, huh? Tell you what, rainbow. Why don't you come out here, since you like to walk into my house acting like a Yankee loud mouth fag.

Don't talk my word, sunshine, about the ass beating you will get. Ask around.

Cumgusling paulbot.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: BigTex on July 19, 2012, 12:28:59 PM
Look I'm not sure I believe he's a citizen of the U.S. or not.  And I've said that here before.

But the fact of the matter is...there are more worrisome things this man is doing from the Office of the President that we should concentrate on.

This is a side issue that we can't let ourselves get distracted by.  We can't undo the past 3 1/2 years of what he's done whether the BC is a fake or not.

ANd trying to convince people otherwise is like the DUmmies thinking that if they could get one more recount to prove Gore won in 2000 they could undo the bush years 12 years after the fact.

I think there's just too much evidence that he is a citizen. The announcements in the paper, the birth certificates that no one with legitimate credentials can disprove and Hawaii has verified, and probably the biggest reason there would be hundreds, possibly thousands of people involved in hiding Obama's real birth place LONG before he ever thought about becoming president. I just dont see the advantage for the people of committing the alleged crimes then.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: txradioguy on July 19, 2012, 01:21:57 PM
I think there's just too much evidence that he is a citizen. The announcements in the paper, the birth certificates that no one with legitimate credentials can disprove and Hawaii has verified, and probably the biggest reason there would be hundreds, possibly thousands of people involved in hiding Obama's real birth place LONG before he ever thought about becoming president. I just dont see the advantage for the people of committing the alleged crimes then.

And that is why I likened the people that are so hot to trot on this to the 9/11 truthers.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: Ptarmigan on July 19, 2012, 01:29:54 PM
This whole Obama Birther issued originated from Hillary Clinton supporters. The right jumped to it later on. Ironic, huh?

Birther row began with Hillary Clinton
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/8478044/Birther-row-began-with-Hillary-Clinton.html

Berg Gets Sunk
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/10/berg-gets-sunk/

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Readers have been champing at the bit to know our view of the lawsuit brought against Obama by a Philadelphia Hillary supporter, which alleges that the candidate is not a natural-born U.S. citizen. (We know —this again?) Of course only a judge is qualified to legally determine the validity of a suit, so we’ve held off on opining, though we’ve certainly put forth our findings on various aspects of the claim. But we stress that there are no such qualification requirements to bring a suit. You don’t have to be a judge, or a lawyer, or a person who’s familiar with the law. You don’t have to have a valid case, or the authority to sue. You don’t have to have evidence. You need those things to get your case heard, and to win, but not to file. The filing of a suit proves only that a suit has been filed.

I am concerned about Obama not coming clean on his birth record, but I don't consider it a major issue compared to others like the economy.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: Bad Dog on July 19, 2012, 01:32:42 PM
And that is why I likened the people that are so hot to trot on this to the 9/11 truthers.

I'm still trying to figure out specifically who you are criticizing and, exactly what harm they are causing.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: dutch508 on July 19, 2012, 02:43:04 PM
I'm still trying to figure out specifically who you are criticizing and, exactly what harm they are causing.

Idiots.
They are doing exactly what Obama wants them to do... Shriek loudly and look like fools so the MSM can say, "Look, the right is full of crazy racist retards and paulbots." (redundant, I know...)
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: Bad Dog on July 19, 2012, 02:47:01 PM
Idiots.
They are doing exactly what Obama wants them to do... Shriek loudly and look like fools so the MSM can say, "Look, the right is full of crazy racist retards and paulbots." (redundant, I know...)

Perhaps a class or phylum?  I'm pretty sure all idiots aren't birthers.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: dutch508 on July 19, 2012, 03:27:50 PM
Perhaps a class or phylum?  I'm pretty sure all idiots aren't birthers.

All birthers are idiots but not all idiots are birthers
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: Airwolf on July 19, 2012, 03:30:51 PM
There isn't much that can be done but to keep him from getting another four years. After that it's all good if the Congress and DOJ wants to really look into it but I doubt they will. The damage is done and the only way to fix it is to elect Romney and get on with fixing this country.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: Eupher on July 19, 2012, 03:44:11 PM
There isn't much that can be done but to keep him from getting another four years. After that it's all good if the Congress and DOJ wants to really look into it but I doubt they will. The damage is done and the only way to fix it is to elect Romney and get on with fixing this country.

The whole thing died in Jan. 09 when SCOTUS refused a couple of different cases that challenged Barry's NBC claim.

Berg's case was tossed by a federal judge because he's an ordinary citizen - the judge determined that only Congress can challenge Barry's quals to be prez.

Everywhere you look, repeated challenges to Barry's quals have been defeated.

And, after 3.5 years with Barry in the Oval Orifice, he ain't going anywhere until we toss his ass out in November (actual ousting actions delayed until January, of course).
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: rich_t on July 19, 2012, 04:33:39 PM
I for one don't view this issue as a distraction.

I know I am not distracted over it.  It's merely a minor something to speculate about among friends or on message boards.

I don't think that many conservatives are picking up the guidon and charging into battle on this issue.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: rich_t on July 19, 2012, 04:34:40 PM
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Berg's case was tossed by a federal judge because he's an ordinary citizen - the judge determined that only Congress can challenge Barry's quals to be prez.

I always thought that ruling was BS personally.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: Eupher on July 19, 2012, 04:36:00 PM
I always thought that ruling was BS personally.

It was a political football and there was no way in hell that judge was going to do anything BUT toss the case out.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: vesta111 on July 19, 2012, 05:45:01 PM
It was a political football and there was no way in hell that judge was going to do anything BUT toss the case out.

Tisk, tisk, So we find out Obama WAS born in Hawaii--however he is the first President to spend his early life living in a foreign country raised , educated , and under the thumb of  Muslims.

His formative years were spent being taught by Anti American males and anti-Christian to boot.  I an surprised that he could even speak English when he was sent back to America.  Perhaps he was a teenager before he was taught American History,  but then growing up as a teenager in Hawaii with all the mixed races, off shore of the Continent, this must have blown his mind when he hit the main land.  As in----Where the hell did all these white people come from------

Unlike all other Presidents he has no history of American fore fathers, no real link to Americas past.  To make matters worse he has no link to the black community and their past problems.

His only link to history was in Kenya with a father that did not want him and Indonesia where he was raised among the REAL POOR.      Like that boll weevil allways looking for a home.

Just the fact that his Mother gave birth to him in America does not make him an American, if this is the law, them most if not all of us can now claim we are Native Americans.    How many generations does it take to claim ones nationality ?     

It is hot today and the last few days have been worse so I am grouchy and mean, I apologise for this rant.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: NHSparky on July 19, 2012, 05:45:08 PM
I'm still trying to figure out specifically who you are criticizing and, exactly what harm they are causing.

Look, here's the bottom line:

Let's say, just for argument's sake, that he was born in Kenya, isn't a US citizen, whatever it is that supposedly makes him ineligible to be President.

FWIW, yes, he would be replaced by Biden for the remainder of the term.  But ask yourself this--would the POLICIES have changed?  Obama is the titular head of the Democrat Party, and regardless of who is in the #1 position, the shit being shoveled down our throats would be the same--he just happens to be the one holding the shovel today.

And legally, anything he signed into law would STAND as if he had legally been able to occupy the presidency.  So yeah, this is lots of risk to the GOP with very little reward.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: NHSparky on July 19, 2012, 05:46:17 PM
The whole thing died in Jan. 09 when SCOTUS refused a couple of different cases that challenged Barry's NBC claim.

Berg's case was tossed by a federal judge because he's an ordinary citizen - the judge determined that only Congress can challenge Barry's quals to be prez.

Everywhere you look, repeated challenges to Barry's quals have been defeated.

And, after 3.5 years with Barry in the Oval Orifice, he ain't going anywhere until we toss his ass out in November (actual ousting actions delayed until January, of course).

Edit: Bolded for emphasis.

And they had a chance to do just that, yet did not.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: rich_t on July 19, 2012, 05:47:08 PM
Look, here's the bottom line:

Let's say, just for argument's sake, that he was born in Kenya, isn't a US citizen, whatever it is that supposedly makes him ineligible to be President.

FWIW, yes, he would be replaced by Biden for the remainder of the term.  But ask yourself this--would the POLICIES have changed?  Obama is the titular head of the Democrat Party, and regardless of who is in the #1 position, the shit being shoveled down our throats would be the same--he just happens to be the one holding the shovel today.

And legally, anything he signed into law would STAND as if he had legally been able to occupy the presidency.  So yeah, this is lots of risk to the GOP with very little reward.

The GOP isn't pushing this issue.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: Kyle Ricky on July 19, 2012, 06:32:14 PM
I believe that obma was born in this country. But I don't believe he was raised in this country. He left and never came back until he got into college.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: Bad Dog on July 19, 2012, 07:57:19 PM
Look, here's the bottom line:

Let's say, just for argument's sake, that he was born in Kenya, isn't a US citizen, whatever it is that supposedly makes him ineligible to be President.

FWIW, yes, he would be replaced by Biden for the remainder of the term.  But ask yourself this--would the POLICIES have changed?  Obama is the titular head of the Democrat Party, and regardless of who is in the #1 position, the shit being shoveled down our throats would be the same--he just happens to be the one holding the shovel today.

And legally, anything he signed into law would STAND as if he had legally been able to occupy the presidency.  So yeah, this is lots of risk to the GOP with very little reward.

I'm not advocating any legal action being taken against Barry.  I just see no harm in Sheriff Joe gnawing on his leg & generating negative press for Barry.  The Swift Boat Patriots never contemplated any action against Lurch but they planted a seed of doubt in many voter's heads.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: NHSparky on July 19, 2012, 09:04:30 PM
The GOP isn't pushing this issue.

Nor should they, IMO.  They could have fought it or at least looked into it in 2008, as Tx says, but they did not.  Too late to come back to it now.
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: formerlurker on July 20, 2012, 05:13:32 AM
Because it's a distraction.  And you're falling for it.

How so - because I am commenting on an article?   
Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: FreeBorn on July 20, 2012, 08:53:18 AM

dutch508
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Reputation: +631/-720

Hey, just a thought, why are you so personally butthurt concerning a post that did not involve you?

Did I insult your girlfriend?

My post -to someone else and not you- elicited the following eloquent and thoughtful retorts -from you- again, where YOU were NOT concerned, directed at me~

"sucking ronulan cock"

"****stick"

"Big Ghey new Yanker"

"rainbow"

"walk into my house" (that part there is extry speshul, do you own this website?)

"Yankee loud mouth fag"

"sunshine"

"ass beating you will get"

"Cumgusling paulbot"

Gee, all this from a thread concerning 0bama's forged birth certificate. It seems I have struck a nerve.
Why you felt compelled to jump in and defend someone else is beyond me, perhaps you two should get a room.
Was it the mention of 0bama that infuriated you so? Did I dis your hero?
Maybe the three of you could get a room together and pull a train on each other.

When I grow up I want to be just like you, Dutch. I look forward to the day when I can walk into a Yamaha (LOL) dealership, slap down my plastic and buy myself a "biker" lifestyle. Can I Biggie Size that and get real "Bros" with it?

What a putz.













Title: Re: 'IT'S A FAKE'
Post by: txradioguy on July 20, 2012, 09:00:18 AM
dutch508
Hero Member
 :beathorse: :beathorse: :beathorse: :beathorse: :beathorse:
Reputation: +631/-720

Hey, just a thought, why are you so personally butthurt concerning a post that did not involve you?

Did I insult your girlfriend?

My post -to someone else and not you- elicited the following eloquent and thoughtful retorts -from you- again, where YOU were NOT concerned, directed at me~

"sucking ronulan cock"

"****stick"

"Big Ghey new Yanker"

"rainbow"

"walk into my house" (that part there is extry speshul, do you own this website?)

"Yankee loud mouth fag"

"sunshine"

"ass beating you will get"

"Cumgusling paulbot"

Gee, all this from a thread concerning 0bama's forged birth certificate. It seems I have struck a nerve.
Why you felt compelled to jump in and defend someone else is beyond me, perhaps you two should get a room.
Was it the mention of 0bama that infuriated you so? Did I dis your hero?
Maybe the three of you could get a room together and pull a train on each other.

maybe you should go back to whatever hold you crawled out of and pull the dirt back down on top of you.

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When I grow up I want to be just like you, Dutch. I look forward to the day when I can walk into a Yamaha (LOL) dealership, slap down my plastic and buy myself a "biker" lifestyle. Can I Biggie Size that and get real "Bros" with it?

Can you translate...my idiot to English decoder is broken.

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What a putz.

Don't be so hard on yourself...you're not a putz...just a mouth breathing troll.