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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: miskie on July 10, 2012, 05:36:48 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002927507
The Andy Stephenson--Paypal matter has been submitted to Snopes
Last edited Tue Jul 10, 2012, 06:02 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
So says a conservativecave.com member "formerlurker". This person hopes that the freepers and wingnuts will be vindicated from the accusations that they hastened Andy's death through their interference in his medical care.
It's on this thread:
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,75121.30.html
This is good news to everyone who values truth and transparency!! (Of course, if snopes should contact any of the miscreants involved, they will probably lie and distort and deny.)
If any DU-ers are contacted by snopes, please pass the word.
Looks like Grasswire is trying to keep hope alive undead in the Andy Stephenson affair. Good luck with that.
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So, we invent post-op infections and made Andy fly around with a "weeping" wound?
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So, we invent post-op infections and made Andy fly around with a "weeping" wound?
Its part of VRWC bioweaponry program, I'm sure.
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"grasswire (34,150 posts)
2. oh, by the way ---- to the mole
The sour franksolich says I've been talking to one of his moles here on DU. Well, well. Imagine that. "
Oh nowes!! grasswire is on to Frank. Well, maybe not.
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I'm starting to come around to DU's new openness involving referring to the former 'sites that shall not be named' - It doesn't do any good anthropology-wise - However, it makes shaking the proverbial 'ant farm' so much more fun.
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Response to grasswire (Original post)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 05:50 PM
hlthe2b (41,442 posts)
1. Damn... I hoped Snopes does a thorough job of exposing what really happened. So do we.
We all be devastated if they "white-washed" the entire incident.
They won't. :lmao:
I doubt the Snopes site will even bother with it.
The primatives will go ape, over the conspiracy and cover-up. :rotf:
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The DUmp playing hard ball again? Or are they just playing with their balls, er, I mean each others balls again?
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Snopes should bust the "Marxism works it has just never been properly applied" myth.
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This person hopes that the freepers and wingnuts will be vindicated from the accusations that they hastened Andy's death through their interference in his medical care.
Is that what I hope?
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The DUmp playing hard ball again? Or are they just playing with their balls, er, I mean each others balls again?
(http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o528/dummieland/balls.jpg)
Wait- did you just say, 'playing with balls?'
(http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o528/dummieland/balls2.jpg)
I LOVE playing with balls!!
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Is that what I hope?
Of course.
Aren't they always telling us what our own best interests are?
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They won't. :lmao:
I doubt the Snopes site will even bother with it.
The primatives will go ape, over the conspiracy and cover-up. :rotf:
They may google the whole sordid affair and walk - very quickly - away from it, or they may actually make a simple call to paypal and the hospital to obtain some facts to present.
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Snopes should bust the "Marxism works it has just never been properly applied" myth.
I am thinking that one should actually be sent to "Myth Busters". :popcorn:
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I am thinking that one should actually be sent to "Myth Busters". :popcorn:
I suspect they wouldn't do it - after the 'Pyramid Power' myths, they said they were done with doing any further 'woowoo' myths.- And the magic necessary to make Marxism "work" certainly qualifies as such.
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I suspect they wouldn't do it - after the 'Pyramid Power' myths, they said they were done with doing any further 'woowoo' myths.- And the magic necessary to make Marxism "work" certainly qualifies as such.
Werd. :lol:
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[quote author=Bad Dog link=topic=75232.msg906362#msg906362 date=1341960156]
"grasswire (34,150 posts)
2. oh, by the way ---- to the mole
The sour franksolich says I've been talking to one of his moles here on DU. Well, well. Imagine that. "
Oh nowes!! grasswire is on to Frank. Well, maybe not.
[/quote]
Coach is really living it up rent free in the old grasswipe's cranium cavity.
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Didn't Paypal debunk this back in the day? Or were they in on our evil cabal to give Andy pancreatic cancer, make him fly all over the country giving an incoherent message on paper ballots instead of seeking treatment, and then putting silverfish in his hospital room at the hospital that wasn't Johns Hopkins?
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Well, well, theree hasn't been a post since the asswire primitive last talked about Frank. Nobody wants to thoin the CC Callout? I find that hard to believe.
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Dummies never learn. They think their whole lives is some episode of the X-files.
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Dummies never learn. They think their whole lives is some episode of the X-files.
One can hardly fault them for that. Many of them resemble the creatures Mulder and Scully chased after.
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Does this mean we're in for another round of Ninja lawyers and having our names sown in salt or whatever the alcohol-soaked threats were from the cessPitt?
:rofl:
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One can hardly fault them for that. Many of them resemble the creatures Mulder and Scully chased after.
:werd:
H5, BTW.
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Dummies never learn. They think their whole lives is some episode of the X-files.
They think that they are representative of the left as a whole. They're totally deluded.
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I'd be suprised if Snopes was dumb enough to get sucked into their stupidity.
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I'd be suprised if Snopes was dumb enough to get sucked into their stupidity.
Frankly, I don't think Stephenson is important enough to even bother with.
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Frankly, I don't think Stephenson is important enough to even bother with.
The fat fag is beyond worm food at this point, but moonbats have bad cases of OCD when it comes to stupid things.
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They think that they are representative of the left as a whole. They're totally deluded.
FIFY :rotf:
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The fat fag is beyond worm food at this point, but moonbats have bad cases of OCD when it comes to stupid things.
Poor worms got HIV...
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"In other news, Andy is still dead"
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I seem to vaguely remember that Paypal was contacted back in the day and they said they don't put holds on accounts. It was just another lie made up by the scammers.
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They still obsess about Andy Stephenson? Wasn't it DU's fault for the questionable fund raising?
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They still obsess about Andy Stephenson? Wasn't it DU's fault for the questionable fund raising?
I came in, after the fact and am still trying to understand both sides of the problem.
What I get so far is a member of DU became ill and asked for help paying his hospital bills.
Some how along the way the information about his health sounded odd and our Frank looked into it. For all we know Frank may have been on the point of writing out a check to help Andy. Frank came from a medical family and wanted to know what was going on, perhaps there were alternative treatments at less cost.
Some where along the line Andy posted health up dates and those with any medical training began to questern him. Frank was only one of those that from a dozen that wondered what was going on.
Seems Andy set up a Pay pal account for donations for his health care. I have no idea how much he pulled in from there or how the money was spent.
Poor Andy died, seems no amount of money could have saved him. Matter of fact had he been viabible even without a plug nickle he would have received the same treatment and care as he would have gotten had he had unlimited money.
Now it seems after a few years when this happend before I got here, someone at DU is using Andy's dead body to cast aspersions on others. Why, and most particularly on our Frank. He was not the only one to ask questions, just one of a few dozen.
What does DU have against our Frank, darn he is just a nice young man, the nicest man one can meet, a gentleman and a scholar.
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What does DU have against our Frank, darn he is just a nice young man, the nicest man one can meet, a gentleman and a scholar.
DU needs a boogeyman to rally against. And franksolich has that dubious honor in the AS affair. Somehow, the mythology surrounding the AS affair has built up to the point where franksolich & his team managed to interrupt a Paypal account, and actually forced a hospital to cancel surgery on AS because of it.
Both of these points are demonstrably untrue, but they believe them anyway.
A) Paypal would not suspend an account just because a 3rd party said to do so.
B) A hospital would proceed with life-saving surgery on schedule regardless of the patient's finances.
Stephenson died from a post-operative infection. With a procedure as complex as the Whipple for pancreatic cancer, Stephenson's odds of recovery were not in his favor. (20% survival for one year, and about 4% survival for five years on average)
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DU needs a boogeyman to rally against. And franksolich has that dubious honor in the AS affair. Somehow, the mythology surrounding the AS affair has built up to the point where franksolich & his team managed to interrupt a Paypal account, and actually forced a hospital to cancel surgery on AS because of it.
Both of these points are demonstrably untrue, but they believe them anyway.
A) Paypal would not suspend an account just because a 3rd party said to do so.
B) A hospital would proceed with life-saving surgery on schedule regardless of the patient's finances.
Stephenson died from a post-operative infection. With a procedure as complex as the Whipple for pancreatic cancer, Stephenson's odds of recovery were not in his favor. (20% survival for one year, and about 4% survival for five years on average)
It also helps that the collective intelligence level of DU is slightly half that of a rock with mental problems.
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A) Paypal would not suspend an account just because a 3rd party said to do so.
Bingo.
B) A hospital would proceed with life-saving surgery on schedule regardless of the patient's finances
Bingo again.
Too bad for the primitives.
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It also helps that the collective intelligence level of DU is slightly half that of a rock with mental problems.
Rocks everywhere thank you for their inclusion on the positive side of that equation.
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Bingo.
Bingo again.
Too bad for the primitives.
Everyone on this forum seems happier with greater presence here. The opposite applies to DU.
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No matter how hard DUmmy grasswipe Judy Smith searches, she will never stumble onto the secret of how coach iced the sodomite.
It was brilliant.
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Everyone on this forum seems happier with greater presence here. The opposite applies to DU.
I meant to say "your" presence, meaning franksolich.
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No matter how hard DUmmy grasswipe Judy Smith searches, she will never stumble onto the secret of how coach iced the sodomite.
It was brilliant.
Thank you, sir.
It was one of my finest moments, how that was pulled off.
But I'm sure that sooner or later, even finer stunts will be pulled.
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Thank you, sir.
It was one of my finest moments, how that was pulled off.
But I'm sure that sooner or later, even finer stunts will be pulled.
One can only hope.
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Thank you, sir.
It was one of my finest moments, how that was pulled off.
But I'm sure that sooner or later, even finer stunts will be pulled.
We all seek to become one of your followers Frank and learn the ways of the Sith. LOL.