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Title: Who will be the first to tell me I'm indulging in paranoid fantasies?
Post by: Freeper on July 05, 2012, 04:40:34 PM
The first person outside of DU this reads this, that's who.

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Jackpine Radical (33,610 posts)

 
Who will be the first to tell me I'm indulging in paranoid fantasies?

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Whenever the authorities want to stage an attack on civil rights, they do it by first demonizing some subgroup and then creating exceptions to the Bill of Rights that at first only apply to the despised target population. Then, having driven their wedge into the crack, they expand the scope of their rights violations over time.

Thus in the 1930’s to 1950’s it was Communists and first the Dies Committee and then the McCarthy HUAC Hearings, and Americans lost the right to belong to certain political groups with proscribed ideologies. (I remember that when I was drafted in 1967 they made me sign a form on which I swore that I was not/had never been a member of a whole list of organizations, of which the Abraham Lincoln Brigade was one).

People got used to having their freedom of speech and assembly shut down, and the populace as a whole went along quietly when the cops & National Guard were mobilized to put down the antiwar demonstrations.

Then in the 70’s and 80’s, the War on Drugs provided the excuse for a whole wave of incursions on our right to be free from unreasonable searches & seizures, and the militarization of the police began.

In the 90’s, preventive detention began (albeit under the guise of “treatment”), with the universally reviled target of sex offenders. Now 20 states and the Federal Government have laws that permit them to civilly commit and detain “sexually violent persons” after they have served their full prison sentences and involuntarily sequester them in locked “treatment facilities” for indeterminate periods (which usually means for life). These “treatment facilities” generally employ a level of security equivalent to that of a medium-security prison. In 2 rulings, the Supreme Court has already given its stamp of approval to these policies as long as they are cloaked with some nominal pretense of treatment.

This preventive detention scheme disguised as a civil commitment procedure is too good to waste. I predict that within 5 or 10 years, preventive detention programs will be expanded to include other demonized groups such as “eco-terrorists” and anyone else who obstructs the interests of the 1% under the pretext that they have “mental abnormalities” that make them incredibly dangerous and require their being placed on ice for life--all for the safety of the community, of course.

Well, you have to know they’re going to find a means to fill those FEMA camps one way or another, and they’ve already test-marketed the commitment approach and established all necessary legal precedent for it with the various Sexually Violent Person acts.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002906042

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Title: Re: Who will be the first to tell me I'm indulging in paranoid fantasies?
Post by: Bad Dog on July 05, 2012, 04:47:04 PM
I get the impression JR seems too farmiliar with the process for handling sex criminals.

I'm also tired of the foot dragging.  Let's get those FEMA camps up & running.  Many jobs to be had there.
Title: Re: Who will be the first to tell me I'm indulging in paranoid fantasies?
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on July 05, 2012, 04:51:36 PM
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Whenever the authorities want to stage an attack on civil rights, they do it by first demonizing some subgroup and then creating exceptions to the Bill of Rights that at first only apply to the despised target population.

He's absolutely correct:

* The lies perpetrated nightly on FOX News are poisoning our democracy. We need to reinstate the Fairness Doctrine.

* Just look at the history of Christianity.

* Eat the rich!

* Well, conservative women are dumb ****s!

* Conservative blacks are just house n*****s

* I'm not against free speech but hate speech shouldn't be protected. Peeople only hate Obama because he's black.

* White privilege

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In the 90’s, preventive detention began (albeit under the guise of “treatment”), with the universally reviled target of sex offenders.

Made that list, did you?
Title: Re: Who will be the first to tell me I'm indulging in paranoid fantasies?
Post by: miskie on July 05, 2012, 05:01:55 PM
Quote from: Jackpine Radical (33,610 posts)

 
Who will be the first to tell me I'm indulging in paranoid fantasies?

Last edited Thu Jul 5, 2012, 05:17 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

Whenever the authorities want to stage an attack on civil rights, they do it by first demonizing some subgroup and then creating exceptions to the Bill of Rights that at first only apply to the despised target population. Then, having driven their wedge into the crack, they expand the scope of their rights violations over time.

<snip>

Wait until you see what the Obama administration does to your rights once the administration gets access to all of your medical data. You are making a bunch of 'nose under the tent' arguments, yet are totally missing the biggest intrusion on patient privacy in the history of the United States.
Title: Re: Who will be the first to tell me I'm indulging in paranoid fantasies?
Post by: zeitgeist on July 05, 2012, 05:14:15 PM
I get the impression JR seems too farmiliar with the process for handling sex criminals.

I'm also tired of the foot dragging.  Let's get those FEMA camps up & running.  Many jobs to be had there.

JR may have done a little foot tapping while taking a a wide stance or even fondled himself in the privacy of his auto in a rest area.  One never knows with DUmmies.  I am sure it was all an just innocent misunderstanding which resulted in a miscarriage of justice. ::)
Title: Re: Who will be the first to tell me I'm indulging in paranoid fantasies?
Post by: Bad Dog on July 05, 2012, 05:22:38 PM
JR may have done a little foot tapping while taking a a wide stance or even fondled himself in the privacy of his auto in a rest area.  One never knows with DUmmies.  I am sure it was all an just innocent misunderstanding which resulted in a miscarriage of justice. ::)

I'm just hoping we can help Bennie before he ends up in the same fix.
Title: Re: Who will be the first to tell me I'm indulging in paranoid fantasies?
Post by: JohnnyReb on July 05, 2012, 05:52:20 PM
Who will be the first to tell me I'm indulging in paranoid fantasies? ....not me. I didn't get here quick enough.
Title: Re: Who will be the first to tell me I'm indulging in paranoid fantasies?
Post by: txradioguy on July 06, 2012, 01:25:38 AM
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In the 90’s, preventive detention began (albeit under the guise of “treatment”), with the universally reviled target of sex offenders.


Once again a DUmmie defends the indefensible.  Sounds like someone got thrown behind bars for wanting some 10 y/o boy to touch his wee wee.  Either that or he to this day swears that 15 y/o girl told him she was 19.  Silly DUmmie only the POTUS gets to bang teenage interns and get away with it.  :whatever:

As for the whole "preventative detention"...he needs to back it up again about 50 years.  FDR did a preventative detention of the Japanese living in America.
Title: Re: Who will be the first to tell me I'm indulging in paranoid fantasies?
Post by: WinOne4TheGipper on July 06, 2012, 08:36:04 AM
I will tell you that you're a dumbass for implying that Senator McCarthy was in charge of the House (of Representatives) Un-American Activities Committee.
Title: Re: Who will be the first to tell me I'm indulging in paranoid fantasies?
Post by: FlaGator on July 06, 2012, 08:40:03 AM
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Whenever the authorities want to stage an attack on civil rights, they do it by first demonizing some subgroup and then creating exceptions to the Bill of Rights that at first only apply to the despised target population. Then, having driven their wedge into the crack, they expand the scope of their rights violations over time.

Isn't this exactly what the libs are doing with the rich?
Title: Re: Who will be the first to tell me I'm indulging in paranoid fantasies?
Post by: zeitgeist on July 06, 2012, 03:16:27 PM
Isn't this exactly what the libs are doing with the rich?

Wait, are you saying "The Empreror has no Clothes?
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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/47/Emperor_Clothes_01.jpg)

A vain Emperor who cares for nothing but his appearance and attire hires two tailors who are really swindlers that promise him the finest, best suit of clothes from a fabric invisible to anyone who is unfit for his position or "just hopelessly stupid". The Emperor cannot see the cloth himself, but pretends that he can for fear of appearing unfit for his position; his ministers do the same. When the swindlers report that the suit is finished, they mime dressing him and the Emperor then marches in procession before his subjects, who play along with the pretense. Suddenly, a child in the crowd, too young to understand the desirability of keeping up the pretense, blurts out that the Emperor is wearing nothing at all and the cry is taken up by others. The Emperor cringes, suspecting the assertion is true, but holds himself up proudly and continues the procession. After this experience, the Emperor vows never to be so vain again and take his position more seriously.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor's_New_Clothes




Yeah, DUmmies read the words but never seem to get the meanings.


Irony thy name is DUmmy.