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This is interesting, in a good way.
Romney’s Wife Says Woman Being Eyed For Ticket
July 5, 2012 7:36 AM
WASHINGTON (AP) — Mitt Romney’s wife says her husband is thinking about picking a woman to be on his ticket this fall.
Ann Romney says in an interview, “We’ve been looking at that and I love that option as well.â€
This says "Susanna Martinez" to me. She's the governor of New Mexico.[/quote]
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/07/05/romneys-wife-says-woman-being-eyed-for-ticket/
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This is interesting, in a good way.
This says "Susanna Martinez" to me. She's the governor of New Mexico.
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/07/05/romneys-wife-says-woman-being-eyed-for-ticket/
Ain't going to happen....Oh he may take on a female vice presidential candidate but the MSM and DUmmie talking heads will not allow her to be elected. NO WOMAN will ever be allowed to hold an elected office higher than what Hillary Clinton has held.
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I really like the idea but I keep getting a bad taste in my mouth from what happened to Sarah Palin. I prefer going for either a black vp or hispanic vp. I think that will open up more doors than a woman.
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My wife often accuses me (wrongly) of "eyeing" women. :whistling:
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I really like the idea but I keep getting a bad taste in my mouth from what happened to Sarah Palin. I prefer going for either a black vp or hispanic vp. I think that will open up more doors than a woman.
She is female and hispanic. Her grandparents also immigrated legally to the US.
She also converted to republican in the mid-90's or when she was in her mid-30s.
I've read some on her though and she said she wasn't running and she does seem to have had some conflicts over the years with some of the rules. I mean they were many times to be fiscally responsible, but it's the same manner of bucking the rules that dems have done and we didn't like so it would reveal some inconsistencies with our positive to accept how she does business down in NM, but like I said I've only read a little on her so I'm sure I haven't looked into it as extensively to know if that's fact or fiction. :wink:
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If he chooses a women running mate, it better be a good one because he will be toast other wise. She will be raked through the coals, maybe worse than Palin was/is.
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Please, God, no. It's a bad idea.
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Please, God, no. It's a bad idea.
Maybe we could talk Col. West to go the transgender route. I bet he would be better looking than Moochelle. At least his ass would look better (not that I've checked it out).
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If he picks a woman, she better be tough as nails cause the sorry Democraps, liberals and media will come after her hook, line and sinker. Joe Biden is the dumbest shit that has ever held the VP office but the media gives this retard a pass every time he makes a flub up.
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There has been a lot of buzz about Kelly Ayotte of NH. While I am glad she is a Republican and a Senator from NH, she would not be on my list for VP. Her main claim to fame is as an attorney general who succesfully prosecuted a cop killer. She would be a very bad choice IMHO (and was not my first choice for senator btw).
http://politicker.com/2012/07/32009/
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Along with marching in the Wolfeboro parade, there is also speculation Mr. Romney may have held auditions for a running mate during his New Hampshire vacation. At least two potential vice presidential nominees–Ohio Senator Rob Portman and New Hampshire Senator Kelly Ayotte–were in the Granite State at the same time as Mr. Romney fueling chatter they may be meeting with him for an in-person vetting session.
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I seriously doubt Romney will select a female as his running mate. There is no one that makes sense at this current time and in this current political landscape. He will not touch Palin and Bachman is too polarizing.
The only one that makes a little sense is Martinez. She is a fine governor and has a promising political future, but too young and inexperienced.
My guess is Romney will go with Rubio. It makes perfect sense. He could deliver Florida, which is a pivotal swing state, is extremely popular within the conservative base, and will deliver a percentage of Hispanic voters, which is also critical in this upcoming election.
Also keep an eye on Portman. Not a sexy pick, but could deliver Ohio, another huge swing state. And unless I am mistaken, no candidate has ever won the presidential election without taking Ohio.
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I seriously doubt Romney will select a female as his running mate. There is no one that makes sense at this current time and in this current political landscape. He will not touch Palin and Bachman is too polarizing.
Why? What makes her so polarizing?
The only one that makes a little sense is Martinez. She is a fine governor and has a promising political future, but too young and inexperienced.
The Gov. needs to stay where she's at. Legislatively...Red state Governors may be the only option we have left to blunt the Imperialism of the left.
My guess is Romney will go with Rubio.[/quote]
Why? I have issues with his stance in immigration. And the left will rake him over the coals if he speaks out on this issue since teh WH is saying what they've done with their Amnesty plan is copy what Rubio called for.
It makes perfect sense.
To who?
He could deliver Florida, which is a pivotal swing state, is extremely popular within the conservative base, and will deliver a percentage of Hispanic voters, which is also critical in this upcoming election.
Republicans and Conservatives thought Florida was a lock in 2000 because Jeb Bush was the Governor and could deliver for his brother.
History shows otherwise. Nothing is ever a lock.
Also keep an eye on Portman. Not a sexy pick, but could deliver Ohio, another huge swing state. And unless I am mistaken, no candidate has ever won the presidential election without taking Ohio.
What does Portman bring to the table other than being Bush's OMB guy and responsible for NAFTA?
Those are two things Obama would hang around the neck of the Romney campaign like a noose.
Besides...Portman holds down a Senate seat in a swing state...we need him there.
I'm not trying to be a wet blanket here...I'm just looking at things realistically and how the media and the left will eviscerate some of these people that are popular VP picks on chat forums but have some flaws the left would love to expose. Everyone's got them...but things like what I mentioned above are things to consider and think about whether they can be blunted by the GOP.
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Romney's weakness, to me, is foreign policy. Condi Rice? She said no way, but it'd be an interesting choice for a short list.
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Romney's weakness, to me, is foreign policy. Condi Rice? She said no way, but it'd be an interesting choice for a short list.
Condi has said many times that she doesn't want the job...BUT if I were Romney, I'd give her a call and ask her to advise me from time to time on certain subjects.
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My guess is Romney will go with Rubio.
Why? I have issues with his stance in immigration. And the left will rake him over the coals if he speaks out on this issue since teh WH is saying what they've done with their Amnesty plan is copy what Rubio called for.
Republicans and Conservatives thought Florida was a lock in 2000 because Jeb Bush was the Governor and could deliver for his brother.
History shows otherwise. Nothing is ever a lock.
I'm not trying to be a wet blanket here...I'm just looking at things realistically and how the media and the left will eviscerate some of these people that are popular VP picks on chat forums but have some flaws the left would love to expose. Everyone's got them...but things like what I mentioned above are things to consider and think about whether they can be blunted by the GOP.
Agree that each candidate has his strenghts and perceived weakness that Democrats would exploit. There is no perfect candidate. Reagan was not perfect. In my opinion, I think Rubio is the best of the bunch because he will pull in many Latino voters. It would be a sense of pride to have one of their own as a VP. Same old, same old with Obama energizing blacks voters.
I rarely trust what a politician has to say on the campaign trail. Romney if elected will have to deal with Congress. Reality sets in when a new Prez is sworn in, and some of those stances taken during the campaign such as immigration May never see the light of day.
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I just don't know about this woman idea. The left says they're all for women, and that Republicans hate them. But, look at what they do to female candidates, when they're conservative! The meanest, nastiest creeps in the world. They practice the worst double standards. You'd think more people would see through that crap.
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I don't think it'll happen, but - what if the choice was Condoleezza Rice, although she says that she's not interested in politics.
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Romney needs to pick someone with legislative experience. That's why I keep hearkening back to Portman or Kasich. preferable kasich.
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I don't think it'll happen, but - what if the choice was Condoleezza Rice, although she says that she's not interested in politics.
That would be a slam dunk and make me so damn happy! I love that woman!
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That would be a slam dunk and make me so damn happy! I love that woman!
Condi against Biden in a VP debate? They could sell that on pay-per-view.
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Condi on the VP ticket would be pants! Wow!
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Condi against Biden in a VP debate? They could sell that on pay-per-view.
I wonder what fried Biden would smell like. :rofl:
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Napalm in the morning.
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Romney needs to pick someone with legislative experience. That's why I keep hearkening back to Portman or Kasich. preferable kasich.
I'll see your Kasich and raise you a J.C. Watt. (but both have dissapointed me in the past).
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West would be a good choice. He could outsmart, out think and out debate Biden 9 ways to Sunday.
Spare me seasoned politicians like Portman and Kasich. Need some young blood in there with new ideas and some spunk. Portman is boring as hell and a Bush crony.
Rubio is my first choice because he could help Romney with the Latino vote. He also might help with younger voters and would balance the ticket (young with an older Romney).
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West would be a good choice. He could outsmart, out think and out debate Biden 9 ways to Sunday.
Spare me seasoned politicians like Portman and Kasich. Need some young blood in there with new ideas and some spunk. Portman is boring as hell and a Bush crony.
Rubio is my first choice because he could help Romney with the Latino vote. He also might help with younger voters and would balance the ticket (young with an older Romney).
My beagle could outsmart, out think, and probably out debate Biden. :rotf:
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My beagle could outsmart, out think, and probably out debate Biden. :rotf:
And then bite him in the ass! :lmao:
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The only one that makes a little sense is Martinez. She is a fine governor and has a promising political future, but too young and inexperienced.
My guess is Romney will go with Rubio. It makes perfect sense. He could deliver Florida, which is a pivotal swing state, is extremely popular within the conservative base, and will deliver a percentage of Hispanic voters, which is also critical in this upcoming election.
You call Martinez "young and inexperienced" she is 52 and will have 2 years of experience but think Rubio should be the pick? Hes 41 and also only has 2 years of experience. Everyone keeps talking about VP candidate helping deliver a state but historically that hasnt been the case and as for nationally Rubio wont help with Latinos. Hes Cuban, that will do next to nothing to deliver the Hispanic votes we need in CO and NM.
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West would be a good choice. He could outsmart, out think and out debate Biden 9 ways to Sunday.
Spare me seasoned politicians like Portman and Kasich. Need some young blood in there with new ideas and some spunk. Portman is boring as hell and a Bush crony.
Rubio is my first choice because he could help Romney with the Latino vote. He also might help with younger voters and would balance the ticket (young with an older Romney).
I don't think some "young Blood" is going to do the ticket much good. Folks are already concerned about Romneys conservative credentials won't help any if the ticket doesn't have much legislative depth. Sure the majority leader and the Speaker of the house run the legislative process but a VP that knows the game can prod the process along.
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Allen West is excellent. The only thing left of Biden would be hair plugs and a loafer.
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Allen West is excellent. The only thing left of Biden would be hair plugs and a loafer.
I would absolutely love to see Allen West get the VP slot. I think that the country would learn about him in short order, and Rep. West would verbally trounce anyone--media or otherwise--that would be stupid enough to try to challenge him, or call him out. :popcorn:
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You call Martinez "young and inexperienced" she is 52 and will have 2 years of experience but think Rubio should be the pick? Hes 41 and also only has 2 years of experience. Everyone keeps talking about VP candidate helping deliver a state but historically that hasnt been the case and as for nationally Rubio wont help with Latinos. Hes Cuban, that will do next to nothing to deliver the Hispanic votes we need in CO and NM.
Who is your pick then?????
Palin did energize the electorate. McCain was such a pathetic candidate who would have lost by a bigger margin if she was not on the ticket. The VP can deliver votes. Rubio speaks Spanish. No. Obama goes on a Florida speaking network and speak a few words of Spanish. Obummer is not Spanish. Correct. Your logic does not make sense to me. In my opinion, Rubio would help with Latino voters all over the US. It would be a sense of pride for Latinos to have a Cuban American as VP.
Romney is a stuffy boring candidate who needs someone to light a spark to energize Repubs and get them out in force to support him. If he picks another boring candidate like Portman or someone that has had a long history in politics, I think that will not work to his advantage. I want a fighter who will take it to the Democraps and the media not some career politician. These type of politicians are responsible for the damn mess we are in now. I am hopefull that every Democrat and Republician that has over 8 years of experience is voted out of office. Maybe their rating with the public can get above 12%
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I saw Allen West on Fox News last night with Frank Luntz and I have one thing to say: I like him. He is a very smart guy, and I think he would make a great VP pick.
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The problem is if Romney picks either a woman or a minority, the media will claim he's pandering. And if it is a white male, they'll bitch that is just the ol' white boys club at it again.
A no win situation, so let's find the most qualified person in a swing state. Paul Ryan, Scott Walker, Kasich or Portman, etc.
My two cents.
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I saw Allen West on Fox News last night with Frank Luntz and I have one thing to say: I like him. He is a very smart guy, and I think he would make a great VP pick.
I saw that and he is very impressive. Would love to see him get the VP nomination. To all the naysayers about picking a black or woman. Gotta have some balls to run for Nat. office; it goes with the territory. I don't want some old fart that is a career politician. Give me somebody that is intelligent, has fire in their belly, can energize the base and has new ideas. These old dogs have been killing us with heaping debt and don't have a clue how to stop (not slow down) the runaway spending spree. For example, the Ryan plan slows down our deficit but it still goes up trillions in 10 years. That is supposed to thrill me when Obummer plan is to increase it by double that amount. These jackasses have been there way too long, and we will be just like Greece if this kind of stupidity is not stopped. Oh, and by the way, Ryan is supposed to be a fiscal hawk. Many of these Repubs need to find another line of work.
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The problem is if Romney picks either a woman or a minority, the media will claim he's pandering. And if it is a white male, they'll bitch that is just the ol' white boys club at it again.
Ah, someone who pays attention to the news. Refreshing.
Ralph is one hundred percent correct. Very nice post, sir.
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Polarizing is a lib word. It's code for we libs don't like him/her.
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Ah, someone who pays attention to the news. Refreshing.
Ralph is one hundred percent correct. Very nice post, sir.
My first vote was for Nixon in 1960. How about yours.
Opinions are like assholes; everyone got one
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I like to see Marco Rubio, Allen West, or Nikki Haley as Vice President.
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West would be a good choice. He could outsmart, out think and out debate Biden 9 ways to Sunday.
Spare me seasoned politicians like Portman and Kasich. Need some young blood in there with new ideas and some spunk. Portman is boring as hell and a Bush crony.
Rubio is my first choice because he could help Romney with the Latino vote. He also might help with younger voters and would balance the ticket (young with an older Romney).
Rubio is a fresh face and people are sick and tired of career politicians.
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Who is your pick then?????
Palin did energize the electorate. McCain was such a pathetic candidate who would have lost by a bigger margin if she was not on the ticket. The VP can deliver votes. Rubio speaks Spanish. No. Obama goes on a Florida speaking network and speak a few words of Spanish. Obummer is not Spanish. Correct. Your logic does not make sense to me. In my opinion, Rubio would help with Latino voters all over the US. It would be a sense of pride for Latinos to have a Cuban American as VP.
Romney is a stuffy boring candidate who needs someone to light a spark to energize Repubs and get them out in force to support him. If he picks another boring candidate like Portman or someone that has had a long history in politics, I think that will not work to his advantage. I want a fighter who will take it to the Democraps and the media not some career politician. These type of politicians are responsible for the damn mess we are in now. I am hopefull that every Democrat and Republician that has over 8 years of experience is voted out of office. Maybe their rating with the public can get above 12%
The best pick among the people that have a legitimate chance is either Portman or Jindal. They compliment Romney is the best. If his last name wasnt an issue I think Jeb would be the best pick. You dont pick a VP to get votes and they dont garner that many votes, even from their home state. When was the last time the republicans ran a VP from a swing state? We dont need a token VP, and Romeny wont chose one.
People wanted fresh faces in 2008 and 2010 and it bit them in the face. The dems and independents with Obama and the repubs with the tea party.
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Rubio is a fresh face and people are sick and tired of career politicians.
Rubio is a fresh face but he is also a career politician hes just at the beginning of his career.
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The best pick among the people that have a legitimate chance is either Portman or Jindal.
Portman is boring as all get out plus his ties to Bush as budget director make him a huge liability. Romney need someone to bolster his stuffy persona and Rubio or West could do that. Many independents vote on personalty rather than policy. That was one of the reason's McCain lost because he does not have a sparkling personalty. Just the opposite of Obama.
I live in Louisiana so I am quite familiar with Gov. Jindal; plus, I retired from the state several years ago as an auditor. FYI, he is NOT a fiscal conservative. When he was sworn in his first term, he made a deal with the legislature, that in return for his ethics legislation, he would double their salaries. LA already has the second highest in the South right behind FL. In LA, a bill that is passed becomes law if it is not vetoed in so many days. Voters got wind of this and raised so much hell, he decided to veto it. Jindal has added thousands of high paying jobs bloating the hell out of the budget. State employee numbers have decreased over the last couple of years while labor costs have went up $650 million. LA has many appointed officials appointed by the Governor making $200k to $500k. The legislative auditor found that 22% of supervisors had one (1) employee to supervise. The division I worked in had a Director and two Asst. Directors . BTW, wages of state employees have been frozen but not those for the Governor's office and appointed officials.
The new budget is a farce because Jindal will take a hatchet to education and Health and Human Services. Additionally, the legislative budget director states that Jindal is using some fuzzy math to balance the budget. Another thing that has never happened is that the state will use several hundred million of the rainy day fund to balance the budget. The State Treasurer, John Kennedy, also has harsh words for the governor because between the legislature and the Governor, they have been on an outrageous spending spree for the last several years.
Jindal has done a few good things but thank God he can not run for a third term in LA.
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Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I think Rubio wouldn't be a very good choice. If anything, he should get some more experience and then maybe run in 2020. I think then he will be a good contender for the Presidency.
Romney should pick a good VP who has experience, and is liked by the masses: Of those Allen West, Scott Walker, and Bobby Jindal (How much experience does Jindal have?) come to mind.
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I'll Run!!!!! :shucks: My platform will be my boobs :naughty:
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I'll Run!!!!! :shucks: My platform will be my boobs :naughty:
Too easy. Got to be a trap. Not gonna do it.
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I'll Run!!!!! :shucks: My platform will be my boobs :naughty:
:picsneeded:
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Too easy. Got to be a trap. Not gonna do it.
What a way to go, though. And with a smile on your face! :naughty:
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Thanks for the info, Lacarnut. Appreciate it.
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Thanks for the info, Lacarnut. Appreciate it.
Jindal is a hell of a lot better than ex Democrat Governors Blanco and Edwards but that is not saying a hell of a lot. He has made our state look more respectable but we were so far close to the bottom, we could not go any lower. Politics in LA may not be as bad as some of the Yankee and liberal states but it is pretty bad. He has reduced taxes in some areas but his spending spree is no different than your usual politician.
His appearance on the rebuttal of Obummer's state of the Union speech years ago was just awful. He is not ready for National politics and would get eaten alive by the media.
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Thanks for the info on Jindal, my grumpy "old" friend. 8)
I like the guy, but can't see any logical reason to make him the running mate.
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Thanks for the info on Jindal, my grumpy "old" friend. 8)
I like the guy, but can't see any logical reason to make him the running mate.
He is a well liked guy in LA and elsewhere. He just stinks as a fiscal conservative. The last 4 or 5 Governors fit that bill also. Plus, it makes little difference of party affiliation.
I always have my happy shoes on. Politicians for the most part just piss me off. :-)
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Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I think Rubio wouldn't be a very good choice. If anything, he should get some more experience and then maybe run in 2020. I think then he will be a good contender for the Presidency.
Romney should pick a good VP who has experience, and is liked by the masses: Of those Allen West, Scott Walker, and Bobby Jindal (How much experience does Jindal have?) come to mind.
West has 2 years experience
Walker has 2 years
Jindal has 5 years
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West has 2 years experience
Walker has 2 years
Jindal has 5 years
Drat! I guess we will have to wait and see who he picks then. It better be someone great.
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West has 2 years experience
Walker has 2 years
Jindal has 5 years
When I hear conservatives talk about experience, loser politicians that ran for President like Gore, Kerry, Dole and McCain come to mind. All had a wealth of experience but boring and stuffy as hell. What voters are looking for is someone that has new ideas and can motivate the base. They do NOT want a career politician with a shitpot full of experience.
IMO, Romney has it in the bag. West and Rubio could energize the base and help the Repubs win by a landslide. Might be others out there but please give me a VP that is a fighter who is not a mushy, stuffy shirt, old, white guy.
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When I hear conservatives talk about experience, loser politicians that ran for President like Gore, Kerry, Dole and McCain come to mind. All had a wealth of experience but boring and stuffy as hell. What voters are looking for is someone that has new ideas and can motivate the base. They do NOT want a career politician with a shitpot full of experience.
IMO, Romney has it in the bag. West and Rubio could energize the base and help the Repubs win by a landslide. Might be others out there but please give me a VP that is a fighter who is not a mushy, stuffy shirt, old, white guy.
Hi5
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When I hear conservatives talk about experience, loser politicians that ran for President like Gore, Kerry, Dole and McCain come to mind. All had a wealth of experience but boring and stuffy as hell. What voters are looking for is someone that has new ideas and can motivate the base. They do NOT want a career politician with a shitpot full of experience.
IMO, Romney has it in the bag. West and Rubio could energize the base and help the Repubs win by a landslide. Might be others out there but please give me a VP that is a fighter who is not a mushy, stuffy shirt, old, white guy.
You claim you DONT want a "career politician" and then claim you WANT Rubio, who has been out of college for 16 years and been a politician for the past 14. That IS a career politician. You have absolutely no clue what you want, you are the typical voter.
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You claim you DONT want a "career politician" and then claim you WANT Rubio, who has been out of college for 16 years and been a politician for the past 14. That IS a career politician. You have absolutely no clue what you want, you are the typical voter.
I said the voters want a fresh face rather than some old, politician that has been in the public eye on a national level for many years. Rubio and West fit that bill.
On to your picks, Portman and Jindal. Portman is about as dull a politician as you can get. Plus, he was budget director under Bush. Not what I would call a good pick because the democraps would have a field day bashing a Bush appointee. He would turn out to be a liability.
Jindal is not a fiscal conservative. I live in Louisiana. You are the one that does not have a clue about the budget and the fiscal mess he has created in this state. I assume you overlooked my post.
Finally, we want the same thing and that is to defeat Obama. We just come at it from different angles. So, don't get your bowels all in an uproar.
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I said the voters want a fresh face rather than some old, politician that has been in the public eye on a national level for many years. Rubio and West fit that bill.
On to your picks, Portman and Jindal. Portman is about as dull a politician as you can get. Plus, he was budget director under Bush. Not what I would call a good pick because the democraps would have a field day bashing a Bush appointee. He would turn out to be a liability.
Jindal is not a fiscal conservative. I live in Louisiana. You are the one that does not have a clue about the budget and the fiscal mess he has created in this state. I assume you overlooked my post.
Finally, we want the same thing and that is to defeat Obama. We just come at it from different angles. So, don't get your bowels all in an uproar.
I didnt overlook your post you overlooked the VPs duties, the VP isnt a policy setter. Also its not a politicians job to be interesting or exciting, its to govern effectively. If you pick a VP based on what will energize your base and not whats best for America then you dont deserve to win. People wanted fresh faces in 2008 and 2010. They got them and now they are extremely disappointed with them. Do you really think they want to go for a 3rd round of disappointment?
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I didnt overlook your post you overlooked the VPs duties, the VP isnt a policy setter. Also its not a politicians job to be interesting or exciting, its to govern effectively. If you pick a VP based on what will energize your base and not whats best for America then you dont deserve to win. People wanted fresh faces in 2008 and 2010. They got them and now they are extremely disappointed with them. Do you really think they want to go for a 3rd round of disappointment?
In most cases, the VP is not a policy setter. Dick Cheny was the exception rather than the rule. In other words, it is up to the top of the ticket to decide how much influence and what type of policies the VP would be entrusted to. If McCain had won, Palin would have been given free reign to use her expertise in the energy sector cause she is more knowledgeable than any of the duds on the hill. That would have probably been her one and only policy gig. Strength's: Portman's would be a budget wok. Kasich unemployment and jobs, West defense, Rubio a young fresh face to garner Latino votes.
McCain was a piss poor candidate and there was a great deal of anti-Bush sentiment plus white guilt. Massive job losses did not help either. So, it was not only a question of a fresh face, it was a combination of negatives that added up to a Democratic victory. Palin did energize the base and IMO McCain would have lost even worse had he not picked her.
I don't follow you with the the 2010 campaign. The Repubs took over the House and picked up a few seats in the Senate. It was not a rout like 2008. I agree that some of the Tea Party candidates have been a disappointment especially those voting for more spending. Repubs need to win the WH and the Senate. We can only hope that they get back on the right track.
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I think if Dick Cheney would have ran in 2008, he would have won.
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In most cases, the VP is not a policy setter. Dick Cheny was the exception rather than the rule. In other words, it is up to the top of the ticket to decide how much influence and what type of policies the VP would be entrusted to. If McCain had won, Palin would have been given free reign to use her expertise in the energy sector cause she is more knowledgeable than any of the duds on the hill. That would have probably been her one and only policy gig. Strength's: Portman's would be a budget wok. Kasich unemployment and jobs, West defense, Rubio a young fresh face to garner Latino votes.
McCain was a piss poor candidate and there was a great deal of anti-Bush sentiment plus white guilt. Massive job losses did not help either. So, it was not only a question of a fresh face, it was a combination of negatives that added up to a Democratic victory. Palin did energize the base and IMO McCain would have lost even worse had he not picked her.
I don't follow you with the the 2010 campaign. The Repubs took over the House and picked up a few seats in the Senate. It was not a rout like 2008. I agree that some of the Tea Party candidates have been a disappointment especially those voting for more spending. Repubs need to win the WH and the Senate. We can only hope that they get back on the right track.
The VP can be a very effective tool in spearheading and pushing for implementation of the Presidents Policies and desired legislation. That is where legislative experience would be a plus.
Someone the likes of Kasich would fit that bill. He is a social conservative with a bent towards fiscal responsibility. he is also ready to take on the job as president if it should be necessary.
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The VP can be a very effective tool in spearheading and pushing for implementation of the Presidents Policies and desired legislation. That is where legislative experience would be a plus.
Someone the likes of Kasich would fit that bill. He is a social conservative with a bent towards fiscal responsibility. he is also ready to take on the job as president if it should be necessary.
From a legislative and fiscal standpoint, Kasich would be great. However, I do not know if he could create excitement and fire up the base like West or Rubio could. The Democraps will go after Romney as a stuffy shirt uninspiring rich Repub. In my view, he needs someone just the opposite.
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I think if Dick Cheney would have ran in 2008, he would have won.
If Juan McLame had run in 2008, he probably would have won. :cheers1:
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If Juan McLame had run in 2008, he probably would have won. :cheers1:
Juan McLame?
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I would LOVE to see a West/Bidet debate. (Not a typo). West would send him back to The Villages with a new orifice.
I'd love to see him pick Bachmann for the sole fact it would drive the moonbats...well, battyer.
Col. West is my choice, though.
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Juan McLame?
You know, the senile old bastard who was theoretically Sarah Palin's running mate? The one who spent more time giving Obama fellatio than he did giving his base a reason to vote for him? That one.
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You know, the senile old bastard who was theoretically Sarah Palin's running mate? The one who spent more time giving Obama fellatio than he did giving his base a reason to vote for him? That one.
O.k. I never heard of him being called that. I agree with you, though. I don't think he wanted the job. Or he sure as hell didn't show that he wanted it.
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O.k. I never heard of him being called that. I agree with you, though. I don't think he wanted the job. Or he sure as hell didn't show that he wanted it.
Your education has been shamefully lacking. :-)
I use to have a nice avatar of "Immigartion for Dummies" featuring a forward by Juan.
I threw up a little in my mouth in the voting booth. I barley considered him a RINO and still am not convinced he should even be consider that close to the party. His nomination was the ultimate WTF moment.
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Your education has been shamefully lacking. :-)
I use to have a nice avatar of "Immigartion for Dummies" featuring a forward by Juan.
I threw up a little in my mouth in the voting booth. I barley considered him a RINO and still am not convinced he should even be consider that close to the party. His nomination was the ultimate WTF moment.
:lmao: Well, you great people are educating me quite well. I learn a lot from coming to this place and reading posts from people who know more than I will ever know. :-)
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I don't follow you with the the 2010 campaign. The Repubs took over the House and picked up a few seats in the Senate. It was not a rout like 2008. I agree that some of the Tea Party candidates have been a disappointment especially those voting for more spending. Repubs need to win the WH and the Senate. We can only hope that they get back on the right track.
The self identified tea party congressmen had a lesser fiscal voting record than the establishment republicans. People voted in "fresh faces" only to find out they were worse than what they had before.
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The self identified tea party congressmen had a lesser fiscal voting record than the establishment republicans. People voted in "fresh faces" only to find out they were worse than what they had before.
I am not disputing that but would you rather have new faces or the same old liberal/RINO's in there with botox Nancy as speaker. The Repubs took back the House which is a good thing.
FYI, once these new faces go to DC they find out very quick that they have to play ball with the higher ups. If they do not, they find out that the committee assignments that they want to be a member of goes to another individual. This is true of the Democratic Party also. The system stinks but that is how the game is played.
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As I might have said a few pages before, I'd love to see Rep. West on the ticket. Not only would he ram it right up Plugs' ass, he'd also rip any LSM members stupid enough to challenge him to shreds. :nunchuck: :killemall:
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As I might have said a few pages before, I'd love to see Rep. West on the ticket. Not only would he ram it right up Plugs' ass, he'd also rip any LSM members stupid enough to challenge him to shreds. :nunchuck: :killemall:
That would be fun to watch. However, they would get tired of doing it in person, and just start slinging mud at him through the Soris underhanded smear machine.
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I am not disputing that but would you rather have new faces or the same old liberal/RINO's in there with botox Nancy as speaker. The Repubs took back the House which is a good thing.
FYI, once these new faces go to DC they find out very quick that they have to play ball with the higher ups. If they do not, they find out that the committee assignments that they want to be a member of goes to another individual. This is true of the Democratic Party also. The system stinks but that is how the game is played.
As many republicans we can get in congress are good. But my point was that those fresh faces didnt help them and possibly even hurt them because the new people now have to "play ball" to build up all the political capital that the "RINO"s had and end up with just as bad of a voting record. Also the term RINO is antiquated, the most "liberal" republican in congress now votes more conservative than the most "conservative" democrat.
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As many republicans we can get in congress are good. But my point was that those fresh faces didnt help them and possibly even hurt them because the new people now have to "play ball" to build up all the political capital that the "RINO"s had and end up with just as bad of a voting record. Also the term RINO is antiquated, the most "liberal" republican in congress now votes more conservative than the most "conservative" democrat.
We have a speaker of the House of R. who is either stupid or a fraud or just wants to go along to get along. I don't know which but when he and the O go on TV parroting the $38 billion in spending cuts in 2011 when the truth of the matter is that spending went up over $170 billion from 2010, something stinks in Denmark. This is not the first time the Repubs have gotten hoodwinked. The Repubs agree to increase in spending now and tax cuts into the wild blue yonder which never happen. How F......g stupid can he be. I blame Boehner for the majority of this mess cause the word NO is not in his vocabulary. He is too chummy with Obummer for my taste, and I hope more new faces are elected so that they can kick his ass to the curb.
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We have a speaker of the House of R. who is either stupid or a fraud or just wants to go along to get along. I don't know which but when he and the O go on TV parroting the $38 billion in spending cuts in 2011 when the truth of the matter is that spending went up over $170 billion from 2010, something stinks in Denmark. This is not the first time the Repubs have gotten hoodwinked. The Repubs agree to increase in spending now and tax cuts into the wild blue yonder which never happen. How F......g stupid can he be. I blame Boehner for the majority of this mess cause the word NO is not in his vocabulary. He is too chummy with Obummer for my taste, and I hope more new faces are elected so that they can kick his ass to the curb.
Those of us from Ohio knew what a lame assed Speaker he would be.
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We have a speaker of the House of R. who is either stupid or a fraud or just wants to go along to get along. I don't know which but when he and the O go on TV parroting the $38 billion in spending cuts in 2011 when the truth of the matter is that spending went up over $170 billion from 2010, something stinks in Denmark. This is not the first time the Repubs have gotten hoodwinked. The Repubs agree to increase in spending now and tax cuts into the wild blue yonder which never happen. How F......g stupid can he be. I blame Boehner for the majority of this mess cause the word NO is not in his vocabulary. He is too chummy with Obummer for my taste, and I hope more new faces are elected so that they can kick his ass to the curb.
The House has tried and passed some good legislation. They just been getting shutout in the senate.
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The House has tried and passed some good legislation. They just been getting shutout in the senate.
That is true. You do not think that dirty Harry would allow a vote to repeal Obamacare do you?. Another bill was passed in the House today concerning the repeal of Obamacare. However, the facts remain that on the spending and tax cuts side as I outlined in my post above, Boehner record is horrendous. He has also has caved like a wet noodles in allowing the debt ceiling to increase. He needs to be replaced with someone that is not a crybaby and who has a pair.
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That is true. You do not think that dirty Harry would allow a vote to repeal Obamacare do you?. Another bill was passed in the House today concerning the repeal of Obamacare. However, the facts remain that on the spending and tax cuts side as I outlined in my post above, Boehner record is horrendous. He has also has caved like a wet noodles in allowing the debt ceiling to increase. He needs to be replaced with someone that is not a crybaby and who has a pair.
I couldn't agree more if you paid me to.