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Title: If the Individual Mandate is Overturned...
Post by: Freeper on June 25, 2012, 05:22:00 PM
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OneAngryDemocrat (1,497 posts)

 
If the Individual Mandate is Overturned...

If the Individual Mandate is overturned wouldn't that invalidate state's mandate for drivers to purchase auto insurance?

I know... I've heard the bullshit argument that driving is a privilege and not a right, but that 'should' be irrelevent. Whatever constitutional basis the SCOTUS uses to rule against the Healthcare Act's individual mandate should still apply to the state's mandating private auto insurance. You don't, after all, lose your constitutional rights when you use the nation's roadways.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002855846

And they claim to be the smartest people ever.  :mental:

Title: Re: If the Individual Mandate is Overturned...
Post by: Kyle Ricky on June 25, 2012, 05:24:39 PM
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Title: Re: If the Individual Mandate is Overturned...
Post by: FiddyBeowulf on June 25, 2012, 05:33:50 PM
Forget about the State vs Fed issue, one would wonder if the DUmmie would be in favor of mandatory auto insurance even for those who do not even own a car? I assume that would be the same as making everyone having health insurance.
Title: Re: If the Individual Mandate is Overturned...
Post by: Freeper on June 25, 2012, 05:35:49 PM
Forget about the State vs Fed issue, one would wonder if the DUmmie would be in favor of mandatory auto insurance even for those who do not even own a car? I assume that would be the same as making everyone having health insurance.

Slightly off topic, but you need an ID to get healthcare, so why is ID for voting a bad thing?

Title: Re: If the Individual Mandate is Overturned...
Post by: diesel driver on June 25, 2012, 07:42:34 PM
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OneAngryDemocrat (1,497 posts)

 
If the Individual Mandate is Overturned...

If the Individual Mandate is overturned wouldn't that invalidate state's mandate for drivers to purchase auto insurance?

I know... I've heard the bullshit argument that driving is a privilege and not a right, but that 'should' be irrelevent. Whatever constitutional basis the SCOTUS uses to rule against the Healthcare Act's individual mandate should still apply to the state's mandating private auto insurance. You don't, after all, lose your constitutional rights when you use the nation's roadways.


 :confused:

WHAT THE HELL?

Can someone, ANYONE, translate this inane, insane, asinine piece of incoherent bullshit?

IMO, DUmmie OneStupidDemocrat is guilty of posting under the influence (of STUPIDITY!)
Title: Re: If the Individual Mandate is Overturned...
Post by: Traveshamockery on June 25, 2012, 07:44:10 PM
One Angry Democrat should change his screen name to One Stupid Ass. 
Title: Re: If the Individual Mandate is Overturned...
Post by: miskie on June 25, 2012, 08:18:22 PM
Once again - for emphasis....

Car Insurance:
One can be an American and choose to not drive without an insurance penalty.

Obamacare :
One CANNOT be an American and choose to not have health insurance without paying a penalty.
Title: Re: If the Individual Mandate is Overturned...
Post by: hillneck on June 25, 2012, 08:35:32 PM
One Angry Democrat should change his screen name to One Stupid Ass. 


Oh Yeah, The stupid is deep in this one.   
Title: Re: If the Individual Mandate is Overturned...
Post by: jukin on June 25, 2012, 09:05:48 PM
If it is and the entire 0bama HellCare is thrown out 74% of the USA will be happy.

I'm hoping that the consent of the governed makes a comeback.
Title: Re: If the Individual Mandate is Overturned...
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on June 25, 2012, 10:43:29 PM
:confused:

WHAT THE HELL?

Can someone, ANYONE, translate this inane, insane, asinine piece of incoherent bullshit?

IMO, DUmmie OneStupidDemocrat is guilty of posting under the influence (of STUPIDITY!)

It thinks the 10th Amendment is nothing more than a poor excuse to endorse slavery and was overturned by the Civil War (No, really this is how they think); so it doesn't even occur to the idjit that the fed is unable to write laws that would be perfectly constitutional for the states.
Title: Re: If the Individual Mandate is Overturned...
Post by: GOBUCKS on June 26, 2012, 12:20:46 AM
It thinks the 10th Amendment is nothing more than a poor excuse to endorse slavery and was overturned by the Civil War (No, really this is how they think); so it doesn't even occur to the idjit that the fed is unable to write laws that would be perfectly constitutional for the states.
There are four justices sitting on the Supreme Court who agree with the idjit.

If the muslim wins reelection, that number could increase to six or more.
Title: Re: If the Individual Mandate is Overturned...
Post by: BlueStateSaint on June 26, 2012, 04:12:19 AM
There's a piece on Drudge this morning about how Justice Kennedy is starting to lean Leftward.  I don't know if that will be revealed Thursday (by his vote on Obamacare).

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-06-25/justice-kennedy-leans-liberal-for-now.html
Title: Re: If the Individual Mandate is Overturned...
Post by: formerlurker on June 26, 2012, 04:34:33 AM
Once again - for emphasis....

Car Insurance:
One can be an American and choose to not drive without an insurance penalty.

Obamacare :
One CANNOT be an American and choose to not have health insurance without paying a penalty.

One can drive without insurance.  One cannot own a vehicle, and place it on a public roadway without insurance.   It's the vehicle that requires insurance, not the individual. 
Title: Re: If the Individual Mandate is Overturned...
Post by: formerlurker on June 26, 2012, 04:38:42 AM
There's a piece on Drudge this morning about how Justice Kennedy is starting to lean Leftward.  I don't know if that will be revealed Thursday (by his vote on Obamacare).

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-06-25/justice-kennedy-leans-liberal-for-now.html

Honestly - when it comes to SCOTUS decisions, you have to read them yourselves to make this determination.   I haven't read them yet so I will reserve judgement on whether he is leaning left or if he had zero comfort level when looking at the facts of the case vs. precedent and the Constitution. 
Title: Re: If the Individual Mandate is Overturned...
Post by: Wineslob on June 26, 2012, 10:30:15 AM
Once again - for emphasis....

Car Insurance:
One can be an American and choose to not drive without an insurance penalty.

Obamacare :
One CANNOT be an American and choose to not have health insurance without paying a penalty.



+1


DUmmies, what part of MANDATE does not give you the heebie jeebies?   :hammer:
Title: Re: If the Individual Mandate is Overturned...
Post by: thundley4 on June 26, 2012, 10:46:52 AM


+1


DUmmies, what part of MANDATE does not give you the heebie jeebies?   :hammer:

The ghey DUmmies love MANDATES.
Title: Re: If the Individual Mandate is Overturned...
Post by: IassaFTots on June 26, 2012, 11:03:04 AM
Oh hell.  I give up.

   :stupidpeople:
Title: Re: If the Individual Mandate is Overturned...
Post by: md11hydmec on June 27, 2012, 05:58:11 AM
They see it as free stuff for them. I mean, its not like they're going to be paying for anything. They won't pay a dime yet will use all the services.  We won't be able to use anything because they will have backlogged the system.  Y'all have read all the "illness'" and meds they have. Its scary
Title: Re: If the Individual Mandate is Overturned...
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on June 27, 2012, 10:02:00 AM
Forget about the State vs Fed issue, one would wonder if the DUmmie would be in favor of mandatory auto insurance even for those who do not even own a car? I assume that would be the same as making everyone having health insurance.

Exactly!  Trying to legislate inactivity.
Title: Re: If the Individual Mandate is Overturned...
Post by: USA4ME on June 27, 2012, 10:05:55 AM
The fun part tomorrow is they'll either be on Cloud 9 or they'll be having a major, major pity-party.  They falsely call us the emotional ones, but as we've seen with them time and time again, they're the one's who'll be going bezerk either way.

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Title: Re: If the Individual Mandate is Overturned...
Post by: Rebel on June 27, 2012, 10:07:02 AM
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OneAngryDemocrat (1,497 posts)
I know... I've heard the bullshit argument that driving is a privilege and not a right, but that 'should' be irrelevent.

Irrelevant to you because you f'n idiots have never been able to differentiate between a "right" and a "privilege".