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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on June 21, 2012, 08:15:01 PM
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KurtNYC (9,972 posts)
What 3 major things would you change, if you could, about America ?
You are like JFK in 1960, you have the bully pulpit and popular support -- you can set the agenda, champion your causes and challenge this country to do better...
What are 3 things you would change?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002832473
You probably know what the responses are without even looking. :-)
raccoon (19,715 posts)
2. National Health Plan. Progressive taxation like in the 1950's.
MUCH less money on the MIC!
swayne (50 posts)
7. Three Big ones IMHO
1. Racists (eliminating the drag this continues to be on this society) the Limbaugh, the Hannitys, the Coulters etc...
2. Taxes (make sure the rich pays their stated rate instead of a half or third of it)
3. HealthCare for All
So do we put the Limbaughs, Hannitys, and Colulters in jail or do we execute them?
Arugula Latte (36,324 posts)
15. Initiate public financing of campaigns, universal healthcare, kill the military industrial complex
Oh, and in my fantasy, religion just peters out and goes away completely.
Religion is a huge threat to socialism, when one believes that rights come from God, not the government, people tend to hold on to those freedoms. If you replace God with the state then people will gladly give up their rights.
FarCenter (10,317 posts)
17. Eliminate state governments, eliminate the US Senate, replace the Pres with a Prime Minister.
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4th law of robotics (1,429 posts)
22. Be sure to build your death star first,
before you sweep away the last remnants of the old republic.
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hahahareally (22 posts)
27. First would be COMPLETE TRANSPARENCY in the Federal Government
second would be fairer election/campaign laws
third would be to legalize marijuana
Then Holder would have to give up the documents and 0bama couldn't use EP.
TBF (16,578 posts)
32. Nationalize Banks, Health Care, and the Energy Industry
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Taverner (49,215 posts)
43. Establish Socialism, Government Health Care and end the drug war
Considering socialists want to ban 32 ounce cokes, do you really think they would let you use your heroin legally? Especially since they are paying for your health care they own you.
Comrade_McKenzie (145 posts)
61. Use my intelligence agency to destroy the GOP and moderate Dems...
Then appoint the most far left people I could find to my administration.
More killing of people who's only crime is not sharing your socialist dreams.
And they say we are crazy for saying socialism kills. :mental:
Now my list,
1 Tell the enviro wackos to go jump in a lake and start using the energy sources that we are blessed with.
2 Constitutional amendment for a mandatory balanced budget every year with a stipulation for every tax increase a pay reduction for all members of congress, all senators, and the president, proportional to the largest tax bracket increase.
3 Eliminate all public sector unions and reduce the perks and pay scale to match what is offered in the private sector, no longer will tax payers foot the bill for government workers to retire while the taxpayers have to continue working long after retirement age.
4 *Bonus* Reduce congressional salaries to the average income in the private sector.
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Didn't boy king, who originally promised to accept government (public) funding for his campaign even though he pledged to do so earlier? Guess it's okay for him not to keep promises or go along with the "liberal" ideology when it suits his purposes.
Cindie
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Didn't boy king, who originally promised to accept government (public) funding for his campaign even though he pledged to do so earlier? Guess it's okay for him not to keep promises or go along with the "liberal" ideology when it suits his purposes.
Cindie
His position just evolved. :-)
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raccoon (19,715 posts)
2. National Health Plan. Progressive taxation like in the 1950's.
MUCH less money on the MIC!
Yeah, make everyone pay 90% income tax, that will really make people work more.
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Yeah, make everyone pay 90% income tax, that will really make people work more.
It's only 90% after you hit the point where they think you have enough. What they don't understand is, once a person hits that point they may as well just take the rest of the year off instead of earning more money just to have that money stripped from them. By the time you take 90% federal then another 5 to 9% state taxes it's not worth getting out of bed in the morning to go to work.
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It's only 90% after you hit the point where they think you have enough. What they don't understand is, once a person hits that point they may as well just take the rest of the year off instead of earning more money just to have that money stripped from them. By the time you take 90% federal then another 5 to 9% state taxes it's not worth getting out of bed in the morning to go to work.
That is exactly it. There is no way that I would bust my ass to make $1 million and then end up only taking $100,000 of that home. It is so stupid that there are no words to describe it.
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1) Repeal the 16th Amendment
2) Repeal the 17th Amendment
3) (If I were JFK) Beat the hell out of Teddy.
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1) Repeal the 16th Amendment
2) Repeal the 17th Amendment
3) (If I were JFK) Beat the hell out of Teddy.
GMTA! Except my third one involves never importing slave labor other than voluntary indenture (otherwise one of my ancestors couldn't have afforded to leave Scotland).
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1) Repeal the 16th Amendment
2) Repeal the 17th Amendment
3) (If I were JFK) Beat the hell out of Teddy.
3) Eliminate the Departments Of (non)Education, Energy, and get rid of the EPA, NEA, and IRS.
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1- Eliminate socialist.
2- Eliminate liberals.
3- Eliminate democrats.
I think we could handle things pretty well from there on out.
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1- Eliminate socialist.
2- Eliminate liberals.
3- Eliminate democrats.
I think we could handle things pretty well from there on out.
Kinda redundant there, don't ya think? :lmao:
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Eliminate:
Life
Liberty
the Pursuit of Happiness
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Put the Fed back on a constitutional basis, thereby eliminating about 75% of our current government overhead
Remove all restrictions to free speech other than the most basic required (yelling Fire in a crowded theater when there is no fire.)
Return all charity work back to private charity
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1) Solve the illegal problem.
Build a wall reinforced with landmines. Round up illegals into prison camps. Give then a choice: six months of prison labor, or a flogging. After the choice is made and carried out, toss their buts back into Mexico.
Use deadly drones to kill the drug lords and their minions.
2) Get a bill passed in congress. Revoke citizenship and deport all muslims (including NOI and Louis Farakahn).
3) Solve this problem: http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,74305.0.html
Set national scientists to helping these poor gals. build spa where the afflicted can be pampered, get back rubs and glam photography. Free or subsidized back surgery. Get help at last for our most beloved of citizens.
4) set national investigators to ferret out all the DUmmies fraudulently riding the disability bandwagon, put the DUmmies in a labor camp.
Imprison Taverner on drug charges.
Laugh at Socialist Steve Dawes.
Send narcotic officers into the homes of all DUmmies and imprison them for MJ possesion.
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Kinda redundant there, don't ya think? :lmao:
I would have to like to have added communist and progressives but I was running out of numbers.
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1) Repeal the 16th Amendment and implement the FairTax.
2) Require SOME form of service to the country to earn the vote (military, police, firefighter, dog catcher, something)
3) End any and all forms of monetary payments from the gov't to citizens.
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1) Vote "R" in November
2) it's a start
3) it's a start
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1) Repeal the 16th Amendment and implement the FairTax.
2) Require SOME form of service to the country to earn the vote (military, police, firefighter, dog catcher, something)
3) End any and all forms of monetary payments from the gov't to citizens.
Amend 2) to include ownership of some type of property, or to be a citizen that actually pays taxes!
"Skin in the game" so to speak.
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I have to disagree with your gov workers assessment. You all do realize that There are lower graded workers who make less then the private sector right? I don't make what I did in the private sector 12 years ago so there is a huge myth about public employees pay. You'd do better to allow managers to weed out the problem children who drain the system and allow them to have a merit based pay system so good employees don't get locked in the lower grade systems with nowhere to go then punishing all government employees for the sins of the legislature. In case you are wondering if I'm one. I got something not handed out regularly in my area in my appraisal. Exceeds all. Btw we too pay FICA and a large part of our healthcare premiums. I don't have an issue with this but the reality has not yet caught up with the myths in many instances and it gets old to be the petard that the public wants to hoist their grievances on instead of offering a complete overhaul that will not only correct the largess but offer a more rewarding system for the employees we want to keep running the wheels of our public sector. Fwiw
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It's only 90% after you hit the point where they think you have enough. What they don't understand is, once a person hits that point they may as well just take the rest of the year off instead of earning more money just to have that money stripped from them. By the time you take 90% federal then another 5 to 9% state taxes it's not worth getting out of bed in the morning to go to work.
Hell, I already see people doing that now, making just enough to be under the EIC limit, then quitting.
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1) Eliminate the 16th amendment and replace it with the Fair Tax or, preferably, have the states fund the federal government though state income taxes.
2) Eliminate the 17th amendment. Senators will be nominated by state governors, approved by state legislators and can be recalled and replaced by future governors with legislative approval
3) TERM LIMITS for ALL congressmen/women (2 is enough)
I could add many more, but those are my top 3. The latter two are required to limit corruption in D.C.
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Notice how all the shit they want either takes rights away from other people or takes wealth away from other people? The shit they want requires someone else to give something up. ****ing parasites.
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1--you want welfare/food stamps? Fine--here's the drug test, here's your vouchers for food from the "food stamp store" where they DON'T sell chips, beer, lobsters, etc., we meet at 0600 daily Mon-Fri to pick up trash on the highway or whatever the hell else needs doing. No sitting on your ass collecting a check.
2--EIC? GONE. EVERYONE pays into the system. Even if it's just 1 percent, EVERYONE pays.
3--Congress now has a 12-year limit (2 terms Senate, 6 terms House.) No revolving doors.
There are a few others (eliminate public sector unions, greatly simplify tax code, nationwide CCW reciprocity, etc.,) but you get the idea.
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LanternWaste (14,493 posts)
38. Massively increase public transpiration.
Transpiration. OK.
Spike89 wants to pay people while they go to college. Of course.
Nobody commented on Comrade McKenzie's call for violence, destruction, and death. Even unto fellow democrats.
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Transpiration. OK.
Spike89 wants to pay people while they go to college. Of course.
Nobody commented on Comrade McKenzie's call for violence, destruction, and death. Even unto fellow democrats.
C'mon Karin, these are the same idiots who claim they don't use oil because they take the bus.
Of course, what they forget is that public transportation is probably one of the LEAST efficient/effective ways of getting from point A to point B in anything resembling a timely manner.
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Kinda redundant there, don't ya think? :lmao:
LOL. That's what I was thinking.
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GMTA! Except my third one involves never importing slave labor other than voluntary indenture (otherwise one of my ancestors couldn't have afforded to leave Scotland).
Well I WAS going to say repeal the 19th Amenment and see how that would go. :lmao:
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1) Repeal the 16th Amendment
2) Repeal the 17th Amendment
3) (If I were JFK) Beat the hell out of Teddy.
Same here.
Given that Teddy is now polluting the ground wherein he was laid, I'd suggest that for No.3 end political salaries - give Congressmen and Senators free travel to Washington for session and payment for loss of earnings while Congress is in session, but no more. It should be service not a career.
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I'd kind of have to disagree with that. $170K a year might SOUND like a lot, but when you'd effectively have to have residences in your home district AND DC (not a cheap place by any means) then some sort of salary is justified. One of the issues we have here in NH with such a huge legislature (400 people in a state of 1.3 million) who only get $100/year plus mileage to/from Concord is that you basically have two groups of people who can afford to run for Legislature--retirees and independently wealthy, and guess what--they're gonna vote in their own self-interest for the most part.
Where I have problem is the constant fundraising that needs to be done. Set a spending limit or at least give candidates so many free minutes of airtime in their state/district. PACs would have to make up the difference.
The other real issue I have with Congresscritters is they never seem to live under the laws they pass. Think Obamacare applies to them? Social Security?
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Well I WAS going to say repeal the 19th Amenment and see how that would go. :lmao:
Yeah, I made that mistake once, once. Didn't say to repeal it, just said that ever since it passed, things have gotten worse because "most" women are emotional thinkers who are geared towards security while "most" men are geared towards liberty. There's ALWAYS going to be a government willing to provide you security. ...but it ain't free. Anyway, it was just an opinion. In no way would I ever support repealing the 19th amendment and it was a general statement, not an all-encompassing opinion. Of course there are women geared toward liberty over security. Look here. Of course there are ***** men geared towards security over liberty. Look at DU.
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I'd kind of have to disagree with that. $170K a year might SOUND like a lot, but when you'd effectively have to have residences in your home district AND DC (not a cheap place by any means) then some sort of salary is justified. One of the issues we have here in NH with such a huge legislature (400 people in a state of 1.3 million) who only get $100/year plus mileage to/from Concord is that you basically have two groups of people who can afford to run for Legislature--retirees and independently wealthy, and guess what--they're gonna vote in their own self-interest for the most part.
Where I have problem is the constant fundraising that needs to be done. Set a spending limit or at least give candidates so many free minutes of airtime in their state/district. PACs would have to make up the difference.
The other real issue I have with Congresscritters is they never seem to live under the laws they pass. Think Obamacare applies to them? Social Security?
That would be #4 on my list of things: enact an amendment: All laws, retroactive to the ratification of the Constitution, that apply to any citizen of the US also apply to the members of the Congress and the President.
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I'd kind of have to disagree with that. $170K a year might SOUND like a lot, but when you'd effectively have to have residences in your home district AND DC (not a cheap place by any means) then some sort of salary is justified. One of the issues we have here in NH with such a huge legislature (400 people in a state of 1.3 million) who only get $100/year plus mileage to/from Concord is that you basically have two groups of people who can afford to run for Legislature--retirees and independently wealthy, and guess what--they're gonna vote in their own self-interest for the most part.
I can see your point, I'm not suggesting that they be made to live in penury but I am suggesting that it is not seen as a career path. I would support the provision of accommodation in Washington for them to stay in decent comfort while there, but not to spend their entire time schmoozing each other and being schmoozed by lobbyists - short Congressional sessions (if they're in session they're only going to pass yet more laws) and so a short time spent there. Mandate that employers are required to give any employee who is elected to Congress time off to attend sessions, and then pay the congressman whatever deduction his employer makes. Anything to lessen the deadening impact of a cadre of professional politicians.
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Congresscritters is they never seem to live under the laws they pass.
I've never understood how they get away with that. Even sexual harassment laws! It bugs me that they can vote to give themselves pay raises, too.
I would definitely eliminate government sector employee unions.
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Two big ones.
1) Eliminate the federal reserve!!
2) GO BACK TO THE GOLD STANDARD!!
I also agree with eliminating the 16th amendment and placing a fair tax requirement.
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1--you want welfare/food stamps? Fine--here's the drug test, here's your vouchers for food from the "food stamp store" where they DON'T sell chips, beer, lobsters, etc., we meet at 0600 daily Mon-Fri to pick up trash on the highway or whatever the hell else needs doing. No sitting on your ass collecting a check.
2--EIC? GONE. EVERYONE pays into the system. Even if it's just 1 percent, EVERYONE pays.
3--Congress now has a 12-year limit (2 terms Senate, 6 terms House.) No revolving doors.
There are a few others (eliminate public sector unions, greatly simplify tax code, nationwide CCW reciprocity, etc.,) but you get the idea.
Nmber 3 is a good idea but it needs a ban on that person holding any appointed office lower than cabinet secretary for twelve years. Otherwise we would wind up with a bureacracy riddled with politicians and corrupt beyond all belief.