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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: thundley4 on June 20, 2012, 03:10:49 PM
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MadHound (31,184 posts)
Face it, Fast and Furious was a ****-up.
It should have never happened in the first place, it was a fatally flawed plan from the beginning, and innocents have paid for that mistake with their lives.
Once it came out in the open, somebody needed to fall on their sword, rather than playing politics with the issue. If the head of ATF or Holder had taken the blame and resigned, Issa and his crew would have nothing to go after. Justice would have been served and we all could have moved on.
Instead, we have this escalating scandal that threatens this administration, and is starting to drag them down like an albatross. Frankly, Holder needs to go, now, in the hopes that his resignation will end this blossoming madness. Otherwise, it is simply going to prove to be a serious drag on Obama during a highly contested election season.
Time for Holder to do the right thing, time to put this mess to bed. Let us hope that everybody involved learned a serious lesson coming out of this, namely that precedent setting programs set up under a Republican administration simply aren't worth pursuing.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002834346
The blind squirrel almost found a nut. He only wants Holder to go to protect Obama.
Woody Woodpecker (375 posts)
1. More than anything, I want Holder out of DoJ
and replaced with a progressive AG that'll go after the right-wing and stop chasing after MMJ patients.
You moron, there isn't another AG that could be much farther left than Holder.
Aerows (8,997 posts)
3. I'm trying to be as supportive as possible
of President Obama during this election season, but Eric Holder is terrible as AG. President Obama should fire him, but I understand why he has to hold onto him during election season. Once the President wins again, he should give Holder the boot and hire someone that is interested in prosecuting real criminals instead of harassing medical marijuana patients.
Okay DUmmies, one last time there is no such thing as medical marijuana under federal laws. Any state that allows medical marijuana is doing so in violation of federal laws. You DUmmies are all for Holder going after states for their immigration or voting laws, but not your precious weed.
badtoworse (2,384 posts)
2. I completely agree
This is going to become high profile very quickly and saying "but Bush did it too" will look worse than stupid.
It already looks worse than stupid, because it is a flat out lie.
magical thyme (1,234 posts)
8. what was right would have been to shut down the ****ing program
it was illegal and stupid. It violated our own laws and it violated Mexico's laws. As soon as they discovered Bush's disaster, they should have shut. it. down.
The real results would have been the end to a stupid and illegal program a couple years ago, and no mess to deal with today. Those are the real results.
Stop lying. The program during President Bush's administration was completely different, and it ended during his administration. Obama and Holder started this mess on their own and they own it.
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Instead, we have this escalating scandal that threatens this administration, and is starting to drag them down like an albatross. Frankly, Holder needs to go, now, in the hopes that his resignation will end this blossoming madness. Otherwise, it is simply going to prove to be a serious drag on Obama during a highly contested election season.
He must have been listening to Shawn Hannity :popcorn:
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Hmmm, did Skins island tip over?
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Holy shit. Is there any more evidence needed to prove the DUmmies never made it past kindergarten, mentally?
"BUT BUSH DID IT!!!!"
Linebacker =/= Fast and Furious. And only someone who is willfully ignorant of the facts would believe otherwise. Though this is the DUmp...
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badtoworse (2,384 posts)
2. I completely agree
This is going to become high profile very quickly and saying "but Bush did it too" will look worse than stupid.
You stupid idiot, Issa has been asking Holder for info for a YEAR and a HALF.
I wonder why all you people don't care about all the little brown people who were also killed during this disaster.
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The universe's smartest man really screwed the pooch on this one. Now we all know that 0bama was in this from the beginning. I got a hunski that says Reid and Pelosi knew too or the money would not have been ear marked for it in Porkulus. If 0bama were of at least mediocre intelligence Holder would have been under the bus a year ago. To have it come out now? OMG very, very bad for the boy-king. Now a resignation will not insulate l0rd 0bama.
That sound you hear is four states turning purple...red purple.
If the GOP played as rough as the socialists, there would be subpoena for lots of donks and lots of public flaying.
I heard Rush say that this might be the first time that the original crimes were worse than the coverup.
Murder.
Conspiracy to commit murder.
Obstruction of justice.
Conspiracy to obstruct justice
Treason
Conspiracy to commit treason
I could go on and on and on and on.
BTW, Roger Clemens unavailable for comment on lying to Congress charges.
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Either the moles are popping out of the woodwork or there is a faint glimmer of common sense over there.
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You stupid idiot, Issa has been asking Holder for info for a YEAR and a HALF.
I wonder why all you people don't care about all the little brown people who were also killed during this disaster.
Oh that's simple, they were killed by another minority with guns supplied by a minority! Had this happened under Bush all hell would have broken loose by now. :fuelfire:
On a side note, no one in the Bush administration would have been stupid enough to attempt this type of op.
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002834346
The blind squirrel almost found a nut. He only wants Holder to go to protect Obama.
You moron, there isn't another AG that could be much farther left than Holder.
Okay DUmmies, one last time there is no such thing as medical marijuana under federal laws. Any state that allows medical marijuana is doing so in violation of federal laws. You DUmmies are all for Holder going after states for their immigration or voting laws, but not your precious weed.
It already looks worse than stupid, because it is a flat out lie.
Stop lying. The program during President Bush's administration was completely different, and it ended during his administration. Obama and Holder started this mess on their own and they own it.
You are hitting on all 8 cylinders in that post, my friend! H5
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Operation Gunrunner was a sting operation...kinda like an FBI agent posing as someone who wants to buy kiddie porn to bust the perverts selling it. And it was done with the full knowledge and cooperation of the Mexican government. 0bama simply allowed the guns to go to Mexico without giving a flying rip what happened to them or who got killed. Had it not been for a dead border control agent killed by one of these guns no one would've known. The reason, according to emails back and forth FROM THE AG to others involved was a cynical attempt to force an assault weapons ban. Like everything else this administration does, it failed miserably. But of course to admit that, you DUmmies would have to admit your boy king is running one of the most secret, corrupt administrations in our history. They make Nixon look like an amateur! But can one of you answer this...if it was illegal and is STILL illegal, then isn't the 0bama administration just as guilty for allowing it to continue? And Bush didn't even try to cover it up with executive privilege.
Cindie
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...a cynical attempt to force an assault weapons ban.
Exactly correct.
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I think that obama was checkmated in the 4th dimension.
It was the teleprompters fault.
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I think that obama was checkmated in the 4th dimension.
It was the teleprompters fault.
(http://people.ict.usc.edu/~pynadath/images/hal-9000-eye.jpg)
I'm sorry, Barry. I'm afraid I can't let you do that.
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Sean Hannity.