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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on June 03, 2012, 02:36:50 PM
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NNN0LHI (65,345 posts)
Remember how pissed off you were when we found out Bush ignored that August 6, 2001 PDB?
The now-famous President's Daily Brief entitled, "Bin Laden Determined To Strike in US", that Bush decided to stay on vacation and ignore.
Remember how you felt when you found out Bush ignored that?
President Obama receives a PDB every single day too. We never see them except when when something spectacular occurs, like on 9/11.
When Obama receives a PDB he can ignore it too. Just like Bush did. Or, he can act on it, using the best information available to him. But in the end it is his call.
See what you are up against? There is no black and white here. This is all shades of gray way too complicated for most of us to comprehend. Obviously Bush proved he was out of his league when he failed to do the most important job there is as president. He couldn't protect out country. Bush was too lazy or too stupid or both, to even do that.
We have to trust someone to make these kinds of decisions. And you know something? I trust President Obama completely on this kind of thing. Not saying he is perfect. But I am saying I would rather have him making these kinds of decisions more than anyone else I can think of.
Don
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002760551
0bama doesn't make the decisions they are made for him and a memo is typed up passing blame on if something goes wrong. After all he was on the golf course, how could it be his fault?
treestar (33,017 posts)
1. I agree. That's why we voted for the smartest person
there, with a smart running mate. We can't micromanage this stuff as voters.
And it's a big difference between the R and D. The Rs would definitely misuse this authority.
I don't which is funnier 0bama the smartest person ever, or Biden being smart. :rotf:
KansDem (22,022 posts)
6. To be honest, I was more pissed-off with this...
The famous My Pet Goat picture
How the President of the United States and Commander in Chief of its armed forces could sit and do nothing while his pals and business partners attack our country and murder over 3,000 of our citizens, had me in disbelief.
But you're correct: the whole PDB thing pissed me off too...
Now if obama had done so, it would be proof of how cool and calm he is, chimpy on the other hand was a coward or something. :whatever:
TheDebbieDee (7,734 posts)
8. I trust him to make the smart decisions in order to protect this country, too..............
In fact, he's already several smart choices to protect our nation (that we know of, that is).
Help me out, what were the smart choices he made?
dkf (27,952 posts)
12. If Bush had decided to send a drone in I'd be okay with that.
Same for Obama.
If we can't decide to defend ourselves from an imminent threat then our entire defense system is pointless.
You ****ing liar, you would have screamed war crimes if Bush did such a thing.
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They are such hypocrites. Obama passes the job of changing his toilet paper in case that goes wrong. Those morons still think Obama gave the order to take out Bin Laden? That just shows how stupid they really are.
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002760551
0bama doesn't make the decisions they are made for him and a memo is typed up passing blame on if something goes wrong. After all he was on the golf course, how could it be his fault?
I don't which is funnier 0bama the smartest person ever, or Biden being smart. :rotf:
Now if obama had done so, it would be proof of how cool and calm he is, chimpy on the other hand was a coward or something. :whatever:
Help me out, what were the smart choices he made?
You ****ing liar, you would have screamed war crimes if Bush did such a thing.
Selected headlines on 9/11/01 if Bush had acted on the sketchy, vague intel he was handed:
"Bush Clamps Down on Civil Liberties as Scores are Banned From Commercial Airlines" - NY Times
"Flying While Muslim Now Illegal in U.S.; CAIR Files Suit Against DOT" - LA Times
"Non-Specific Evidence of Threat Cited in Airport Crackdowns, Flyers Skeptical" - Chicago Tribune
"The New Paranoia: Why Airport Security Lines are So Long" - Newsweek
"ACLU Prepares to Battle Bush Administration over Increased Surveillance" - USA Today
"Are Muslims Paying the Price for Bush Obsession with Iraq?" - Slate
"This Man Was Refused Admission to Flight School, and Why You Could be Next" - Salon
"I'm ANGRY and PEE PEE POO POO!" - Democratic Underground
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Selected headlines on 9/11/01 if Bush had acted on the sketchy, vague intel he was handed:
"Bush Clamps Down on Civil Liberties as Scores are Banned From Commercial Airlines" - NY Times
"Flying While Muslim Now Illegal in U.S.; CAIR Files Suit Against DOT" - LA Times
"Non-Specific Evidence of Threat Cited in Airport Crackdowns, Flyers Skeptical" - Chicago Tribune
"The New Paranoia: Why Airport Security Lines are So Long" - Newsweek
"ACLU Prepares to Battle Bush Administration over Increased Surveillance" - USA Today
"Are Muslims Paying the Price for Bush Obsession with Iraq?" - Slate
"This Man Was Refused Admission to Flight School, and Why You Could be Next" - Salon
"I'm ANGRY and PEE PEE POO POO!" - Democratic Underground
Those were headlines AFTER 9/11. If he COULD have acted on a non-specific threat the headlines would have been worse.
Bush can't go around zotting people without fear of legal/political repurcussions like Obama can. It's Bush's own damn fault for being born white.
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No, I was more pissed when I found out that Clinton had the chance to catch Bin Laden at least 4 times and he chose not to get him.
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No, I was more pissed when I found out that Clinton had the chance to catch Bin Laden at least 4 times and he chose not to get him.
Really makes you wish he'd been caught red-handed with one of his BBWs more often; maybe catching bin Laden would have been one of those foreign policy diversions that usually followed.
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Bush can't go around zotting people without fear of legal/political repurcussions like Obama can. It's Bush's own damn fault for being born white.
:cheersmate: Might be the truest words on this website. ^5
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"Bin Laden Determined To Strike in US"
Oh yeah, the one with all that actionable intelligence in it. It ranks right up there with the "Muslim Wants To Blow Somebody Up", "Islamic Cleric Pissed Off About Something Or Other", and "Al Qaeda Gonna Chop Yer Head Off" memos.
How could anyone miss with detailed information like that?
Dumbass DUmbasses.
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No, I was more pissed when I found out that Clinton had the chance to catch Bin Laden at least 4 times and he chose not to get him.
Exactly, if Clinton was more concerned with the countries safety than he was about getting a blow job, Bin laden would have been taken out before 9/11.
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I don't which is funnier 0bama the smartest person ever, or Biden being smart. :rotf:
Last summer, I overheard my cousin (Whose political beliefs are a bit mixed, though he's certainly more conservative than he was several years ago) calling Biden a "nincompoop." You don't hear that word used in a sentence too often anymore, though it certainly fits Biden.
As for their whining about the "Pet Goat" incident, what did they expect him to do? Storm out of the classroom like he's freaking Superman or something, scaring the crap out of the kids and everyone else there, or wait a couple minutes and think over how to proceed in a calm and collected manner?
btw, for the whole "Pals and business partners" crack, screw you, you ignorant, hypocritical DUchebag. :bird:
Why don't we talk about Obama's pals and business partners, which include drug dealers (In his high school yearbook, he thanked his drug dealer and the dope- smoking club he was involved in, but DIDN'T thank his own mother), hatemongering racist pseudo- preachers (Jeremiah Wright), crooked slumlords (Tony Rezko), and unrepentant domestic terrorists (Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn)?
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In 2008 conservatives warned that electing Obama would al but bankrupt the nation, deepen racial divisions, weaken us internationally and leave our freedoms in tattered ruins.
If Bush is culpable for 9/11 then every person who voted for Obama is responsible for the trillions in debt, ObamaCare, run-away EPA/DOJ/NLRB etc.
You ****ers owe us.
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Hi5. I'm using that in the future if you will alow me, Sarge.
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No, I was more pissed when I found out that Clinton had the chance to catch Bin Laden at least 4 times and he chose not to get him.
Maybe if clinnochio wasn't so tied up with cigars, and hummers in the oval office, and Monica Lewinsky, not to mention al the other women he was groping, UBL would have been taken into custody, the 1st WTC attack could have been prevented, and many other terrorist attacks that occurred during the gropers terms could have been nipped in the bud.
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Hi5. I'm using that in the future if you will alow me, Sarge.
Sure
Just leave something in the tip jar.