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Title: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: Boojatta on May 28, 2012, 10:41:35 AM
To keep it simple, I have provided a sequence of assertions.  However, please feel free to contest any of them.  Among the assertions, there might be some that I reached as a result of errors, and there might be some that should be replaced with other assertions that have similar significance, but that are less misleading, more accurate, or more easily demonstrated than what I provided below.

1. Objectivism is connected with Ayn Rand.
2. Ayn Rand declared that Leonard Peikoff was her intellectual heir.
3. Leonard Peikoff indicated that, in his opinion, it's probably a good idea for Objectivists to vote for the Democratic Party.
4. The Democratic Party is connected with liberalism.
5. There is a notable amount of lunacy and/or evasion practiced on message boards owned and/or administered by people who describe themselves as "students of Objectivism" and/or "Objectivists."
Title: Re: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on May 28, 2012, 10:47:45 AM
I moved this thread because CC is not populated -- to any great extent that I'm aware of -- by Objectivists and DUmbasses howl like wet cats at any mention of Rand; preferring socialism and/or statist control to anything the author would suggest.

Since the thread does not cite DU or address any topic to its lurkers it has been moved.

Boo, I don't know what you fascination with Objectivists is but you're going to get more pie comments than engagement in dialogue. It just doesn't mean much here.
Title: Re: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: JohnnyReb on May 28, 2012, 10:52:30 AM
I moved this thread because CC is not populated -- to any great extent that I'm aware of -- by Objectivists and DUmbasses howl like wet cats at any mention of Rand; preferring socialism and/or statist control to anything the author would suggest.

Since the thread does not cite DU or address any topic to its lurkers it has been moved.

Boo, I don't know what you fascination with Objectivists is but you're going to get more pie comments than engagement in dialogue. It just doesn't mean much here.

PIE! A large slice of hot Pecan pie with a big dab of ice cream please. :-)
Title: Re: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on May 28, 2012, 11:12:04 AM
I moved this thread because CC is not populated -- to any great extent that I'm aware of -- by Objectivists and DUmbasses howl like wet cats at any mention of Rand; preferring socialism and/or statist control to anything the author would suggest.

Since the thread does not cite DU or address any topic to its lurkers it has been moved.

Boo, I don't know what you fascination with Objectivists is but you're going to get more pie comments than engagement in dialogue. It just doesn't mean much here.

True, and given where Democrats have gone since JFK, it also depends on the date from which that No. 3 item comes.  Currently it would make more sense, but only in a Cloward-Piven contrarian way of hastening the destruction of the current political-economic structure (Or as some might see it, the chains the current political structure puts on economic freedom) in order to bring about a new and better order more quickly.

I would also like to note that I prefer berry pies.
Title: Re: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: Boojatta on May 28, 2012, 11:13:04 AM
I moved this thread because CC is not populated -- to any great extent that I'm aware of -- by Objectivists and DUmbasses howl like wet cats at any mention of Rand; preferring socialism and/or statist control to anything the author would suggest.

Since the thread does not cite DU or address any topic to its lurkers it has been moved.
That's not a problem.  I will now take the liberty of explaining what motivated me to post it where I posted it:

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This is the section for bringing over illuminating posts from places like DU or other sites that specialize in liberal lunacy and other assorted shenanigans. This is not (bold style of the word "not" isn't a contribution from Boojatta) a “DU Only” section. Feel free to include posts from other places besides DU.
Please note that an explanation isn't a justification. I trust that, although my error can be explained, it was nevertheless an error.

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Boo, I don't know what your fascination with Objectivists is, but you're going to get more pie comments than engagement in dialogue. It just doesn't mean much here.
Thanks for the heads up. If I forget that, then please feel free to repeat the above on the board or in a private message.  To repeat, thank you.  I mean it when I say it.
Title: Re: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on May 28, 2012, 01:05:29 PM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jfC1Or_4da8/T6wK0vw7ThI/AAAAAAAAADg/_uXAHsm67N8/s1600/ENGLISH_MOTHER_****ER.gif)

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This is not a “DU Only” section. Feel free to include posts from other places besides DU.


The second sentence contextualizes the preceding sentence.
Title: Re: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: Big Dog on May 28, 2012, 01:15:55 PM
To keep it simple, I have provided a sequence of assertions.  However, please feel free to contest any of them.  Among the assertions, there might be some that I reached as a result of errors, and there might be some that should be replaced with other assertions that have similar significance, but that are less misleading, more accurate, or more easily demonstrated than what I provided below.

1. Objectivism is connected with Ayn Rand.
2. Ayn Rand declared that Leonard Peikoff was her intellectual heir.
3. Leonard Peikoff indicated that, in his opinion, it's probably a good idea for Objectivists to vote for the Democratic Party.
4. The Democratic Party is connected with liberalism.
5. There is a notable amount of lunacy and/or evasion practiced on message boards owned and/or administered by people who describe themselves as "students of Objectivism" and/or "Objectivists."


To paraphrase,
1. Objectivists like pie;
2. Liberal nutjobs like pie;
Therefore, objectivists = liberal nutjobs.
Title: Re: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: RightCoast on May 28, 2012, 01:18:27 PM
I like pie.  Blueberry pie is yummy.
Title: Re: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: Chris_ on May 28, 2012, 01:23:35 PM
(http://i568.photobucket.com/albums/ss122/tennvalleyfair/2009%20contest/BerryPie.jpg)
Title: Re: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: formerlurker on May 28, 2012, 01:23:58 PM
To keep it simple, I have provided a sequence of assertions.  However, please feel free to contest any of them.  Among the assertions, there might be some that I reached as a result of errors, and there might be some that should be replaced with other assertions that have similar significance, but that are less misleading, more accurate, or more easily demonstrated than what I provided below.

1. Objectivism is connected with Ayn Rand.
2. Ayn Rand declared that Leonard Peikoff was her intellectual heir.
3. Leonard Peikoff indicated that, in his opinion, it's probably a good idea for Objectivists to vote for the Democratic Party.
4. The Democratic Party is connected with liberalism.
5. There is a notable amount of lunacy and/or evasion practiced on message boards owned and/or administered by people who describe themselves as "students of Objectivism" and/or "Objectivists."


Honestly, what is the point here?  
Title: Re: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: Chris_ on May 28, 2012, 01:24:37 PM
Honestly, what is the point here?  
Boo loves the sound of his own voice.
Title: Re: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: Kyle Ricky on May 28, 2012, 02:13:23 PM
Another Pie thread? I will take a slice of that blueberry please.
Title: Re: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: Bodadh on May 28, 2012, 03:08:03 PM
I know Ayn Rand, do not know Leonard Peikoff. Do not have the wherewithal to look up his writings so I am just going to order some keylime pie.
Title: Re: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on May 28, 2012, 03:16:11 PM
(http://drzaius.ics.uci.edu/blogs/setbang/cookie-bunny.jpg)

Wait!


We had pie?

How come nobody told me we had pie?
Title: Re: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on May 28, 2012, 03:39:57 PM
(http://drzaius.ics.uci.edu/blogs/setbang/cookie-bunny.jpg)

Wait!


We had pie?

How come nobody told me we had pie?

Eight slices.  Eight people and one rabbit.  Not that hard to figure out, really.

 :-)
Title: Re: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: dutch508 on May 28, 2012, 03:56:21 PM
Eight slices.  Eight people and one rabbit.  Not that hard to figure out, really.

 :-)

Rabbit pie.
Title: Re: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: Chris_ on May 28, 2012, 04:06:11 PM
I know Ayn Rand, do not know Leonard Peikoff. Do not have the wherewithal to look up his writings so I am just going to order some keylime pie.
Good choice. :cheersmate:
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww63/num1jomomma/Kats/key-lime-pie-sl-1206119-l.jpg)
Title: Re: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on May 28, 2012, 04:09:00 PM
Rabbit pie.

Works for me!

 :yum:
Title: Re: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: Kyle Ricky on May 28, 2012, 04:10:17 PM
Rabbit pie.

hossenfeffer
Title: Re: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: Bodadh on May 28, 2012, 04:18:54 PM
I think a more interesting question would be what kind of pie would Howard Roark eat.
Title: Re: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: Bodadh on May 28, 2012, 04:28:22 PM
(http://images.wikia.com/batman/images/5/5c/The_Question-1.jpg)

Lex Luthor: [sees Question sitting in his office] Question, isn't it? I believe you took something that belongs to me.
 The Question: Have you seen the latest polls? It's beginning to look like you're going to be our next president... just like in that other world.
 Lex Luthor: I wouldn't bet against me.
The Question: No, it wouldn't be prudent. I want you to understand something, Luthor: although my distaste for you as a human being is brobdingnagian, what I'm about to do isn't personal.
 Lex Luthor: What are you babbling about?
The Question: Everything that exists has a specific nature, each entity exists as something in particular and has characteristics that are part of what it is. "A" is "A". And no matter what reality he calls home, "Luthor" is "Luthor". If I'm to save the world, your existence must come to an end, before you take office.
 Lex Luthor: ...You're going to kill me so that Superman can't.
The Question: I'm a well-known crackpot. The Justice League's reputation will survive my actions... and Superman's legacy will remain intact.
 Lex Luthor: Interesting plan. Unfortunately for you, it's not really an option.
 [he flings out his arm, hitting Question hard enough to knock him into the opposite wall]
Title: Re: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: obumazombie on May 28, 2012, 05:01:13 PM
Does 57degrees ring a bell with anyone ? Not a cowbell, or a schoolbell, more of a dinner bell.
Title: Re: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: Big Dog on May 28, 2012, 05:06:25 PM
(http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/WI/223/1598/PreviewComp/SuperStock_1598R-225044.jpg)

Mmmmm, pie.
Title: Re: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: obumazombie on May 28, 2012, 05:53:09 PM
(http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/WI/223/1598/PreviewComp/SuperStock_1598R-225044.jpg)

Mmmmm, pie.
Actually a cowbell could be a cow pie alarm.
Title: Re: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: I_B_Perky on May 28, 2012, 06:12:06 PM
Honestly, what is the point here?  

 :lol: :lol:

I was wondering the same thing. I had this vision of one of the caveman commercials, where some holier than thou bitch is prattling on about the collective group dynamics of something or 'nother and then when she finishes the caveman says: "What?!?!?!?".

Title: Re: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: Chris_ on May 28, 2012, 06:13:07 PM
(http://drzaius.ics.uci.edu/blogs/setbang/cookie-bunny.jpg)
Silly rabbit.  Pie is better than cookies. 
Title: Re: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: RightCoast on May 28, 2012, 06:27:50 PM
(http://i48.tinypic.com/2mm9xqq.jpg)

Title: Re: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: Chris_ on May 28, 2012, 06:30:58 PM
Someone REALLY likes pie!
Title: Re: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: Bodadh on May 28, 2012, 06:41:43 PM
http://www.recipe4all.com/dishes/pie/
Title: Re: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: Chris_ on May 28, 2012, 06:44:24 PM
http://www.recipe4all.com/dishes/pie/
If you have any pick-your-own berry farms in your area, fresh blueberries and raspberries freeze well and can be used later in the year.
Title: Re: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: Mr Mannn on May 28, 2012, 07:13:22 PM
(http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/WI/223/1598/PreviewComp/SuperStock_1598R-225044.jpg)

Mmmmm, pie.

The moral of this story?
Big Dogs get pie. Little dogs and only snivel and whine close to the floor.
Title: Re: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: Big Dog on May 28, 2012, 07:31:47 PM
The moral of this story?
Big Dogs get pie. Little dogs and only snivel and whine close to the floor.


I like this story.

Edited to add: H5
Title: Re: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: obumazombie on May 28, 2012, 07:35:56 PM
The moral of this story?
Big Dogs get pie. Little dogs and only snivel and whine close to the floor.

I estimate he took a 57degree bite out of that pi.
Title: Re: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: Eupher on May 30, 2012, 09:44:58 AM
Well, when it comes to pie, there are three types to consider:

1.  Pecan pie. With or without bourbon. And a side of real whipped cream.
2.  Berry pie -- ANY kind of berry pie. Even mixed berry pie (we're equal-opportunity eaters around here), along with a healthy dollop of vanilla bean ice cream is good.
3.  Coconut cream -- with a pastry crust, not graham cracker.
Title: Re: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: DefiantSix on May 30, 2012, 10:00:41 AM
(http://jensoriginalsembroiderydesigns.yolasite.com/resources/JML%20I%20like%20Pi%205in.jpg)
Title: Re: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: Karin on May 30, 2012, 10:03:45 AM
I beg to differ, Eupher.  Coconut is the work of the debl.  

Pecan Pie is disgusting.  Pure, wiggly sugar.  So sweet your head will explode.  


Rightcoast, your pic made me burst out laughing.  It was...unexpected.  


Blueberry, now that's my favorite fruit, makes a hellofa pie.  Also, did you know that Ocean Spray diet blueberry juice is extremely delicious, and is only 5 calories?  Makes a great cocktail, too, by adding ice and a snifter of vokka.  
Title: Re: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: Eupher on May 30, 2012, 10:09:57 AM
I beg to differ, Eupher.  Coconut is the work of the debl.  

If that is true, then I am evil incarnate.

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Pecan Pie is disgusting.  Pure, wiggly sugar.  So sweet your head will explode.  

Pecan pie is rich. Richness does not equate to sweetness. If your pecan pie is sweet, you're putting too much sugar in it. Substitute butter -- your arteries will thank me for that little tip.

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Blueberry, now that's my favorite fruit, makes a hellofa pie.  Also, did you know that Ocean Spray diet blueberry juice is extremely delicious, and is only 5 calories?  Makes a great cocktail, too, by adding ice and a snifter of vokka.

If you're going to eat PIE, you can't and shouldn't be worried about calories/fat grams/carb grams. It just ain't right. You're either going to stay on the dark side, or you're not. If you're not going to the dark side, just 'fess up and admit it.

There's no crime in being honest. But get off the calorie kick. THAT is the work of the debl.
Title: Re: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: Karin on May 30, 2012, 10:38:47 AM
I was just making an aside about the juice.  It's just really good, that's all.  Not on my high horse about calories and fat grams at all.

 
Title: Re: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: Eupher on May 30, 2012, 11:57:50 AM
I was just making an aside about the juice.  It's just really good, that's all.  Not on my high horse about calories and fat grams at all.
 

I'm relieved you're still on the dark side with the rest of us.

Wouldja like some pie? Key Lime, maybe?  (somebody posted a pic above, methinks...)
Title: Re: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: Ptarmigan on May 30, 2012, 07:41:47 PM
(http://drzaius.ics.uci.edu/blogs/setbang/cookie-bunny.jpg)

Wait!


We had pie?

How come nobody told me we had pie?

No sodomite bunnies can have pies. Only ptarmigans can have pies. Mine! Mine! Mine!  :fuelfire:
Title: Re: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: Ptarmigan on May 30, 2012, 07:42:39 PM
I beg to differ, Eupher.  Coconut is the work of the debl.  

Pecan Pie is disgusting.  Pure, wiggly sugar.  So sweet your head will explode.  


Rightcoast, your pic made me burst out laughing.  It was...unexpected.  


Blueberry, now that's my favorite fruit, makes a hellofa pie.  Also, did you know that Ocean Spray diet blueberry juice is extremely delicious, and is only 5 calories?  Makes a great cocktail, too, by adding ice and a snifter of vokka.  

Chocolate mousse pie is king! :fuelfire:

(http://blog.cooktj.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/ChocolateMoussePie.jpg)
Title: Re: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: CactusCarlos on May 30, 2012, 09:10:59 PM
(http://i46.tinypic.com/nlu82e.jpg)
Title: Re: A connection between Objectivism and liberal lunacy?
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on May 31, 2012, 10:15:05 PM
Rabbit pie.

No...


(http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/sexy-easter-bunnies-3.jpg)

Hare pie.