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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on May 26, 2012, 04:20:16 PM
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hedgehog
Let's talk about the real F word!
Let’s take only the Obama presidency. Had the filibuster not applied, the United States would have a market-based system to control carbon emissions, which would limit the damage from global warming, vitalize the clean technology sector, and challenge other large polluters like China and India to do the same. The new health care law would have a public option. Children of undocumented immigrants who served two years in the military or went to college could become US citizens. Women paid less than their male colleagues because of their gender would have broader legal recourse against their employers. Billionaires would not be able to manipulate the political system from behind a veil of anonymity.
Dozens of vacant judgeships would have been filled. The Federal Reserve would have operated with a full slate of governors, including Nobel Prize-winning economist Peter Diamond. Elizabeth Warren would be director of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, not a candidate for the Senate. And Mitt Romney would be paying a higher tax rate than the 13.9 percent he shelled out in 2010, since a provision to end the carried-interest tax break wouldn’t have died in the Senate. (By my math, that filibuster saved Romney $1,480,000 in 2010 alone, the difference between the 15 percent he paid on $7.4 million earned in carried interest and the top marginal rate of 35 percent.)
Each of these measures passed the House and received, or would have received, at least the 50 votes necessary to pass the Senate — but lacked the 60 votes to break a filibuster. (Nominations are handled — or not — solely by the Senate.) Since 2007, the GOP has filibustered legislation with majority support 78 times.
http://articles.boston.com/2012-05-18/opinion/31749851_1_filibuster-public-option-senate
http://www.democraticunderground.com/125140620
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libinnyandia
2. Besides the filibuster issue, the Senate by its very nature is dysfunctional: The 10 states with
the lowest population have 20 Senators. California, with approxiimately the same population has 2. The Senate is an ancient artifact from the past.
Apparently this DUmmy has no clue why the Senate is like that, the whole idea was to give each state equal, (and libs love "equality") representation in one house of government. The House is proportional to the population of each state. Also the Senate was intended to maintain the rights of each state, but we all know how much that has failed.
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But the filibuster was great when the R's had the Senate and House.
Hypocrites.
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Watch the filibuster become a sacred and vital component of the democratic process--after November!!
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Watch the filibuster become a sacred and vital component of the democratic process--after November!!
Yep all of a sudden obstruction will be a good thing at DU again.
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Watch the filibuster become a sacred and vital component of the democratic process--after November!!
It was before - here is an example thread from 2005. There are dozens more just like it.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1466872
Original message
What should the Dems fillibuster over the next two years?
So with the Reps controlling the House, Senate, and the Presidency, it seems that the only useful tool the Dems have left in DC is the fillibuster.
What should the Democrats concentrate on talking to death over the next two years? How much can we reasonably hope to block, and what should be our priorities?
I say the supreme court and soc. sec. are the top two-- though I'll be livid if things like a gay marraige or an anti-flag burning amendment get passed.
Any other thoughts?
Response to Original message
1. Anything and everything
The less this Congress does, the better as far as I'm concerned.
Response to Reply #1
6. Amen Brother
You got that right. The less work this Congress does, the safer we are.
Response to Original message
2. Ensuring the filibuster rule stays intact! n/t
Response to Original message
3. They should filibuster everything
The more filibusters, the less time the Repugs will have to pass any legislation this session.
Everything from budgets to defense bills to informal resolutions recognizing March First as National *****willow Awareness Day.
They should just gum-up the works until the Repugs lose their seats, Bush is impeached, or the election is over-turned.
Response to Original message
4. JUDICIAL APPOINTMENTS
Just wait. A Court with Ken Starr, Ted Olson, Bob Bork, Clarence Thomas, and Chief Justice Scalia.
Response to Reply #4
7. Definitely judicial appointments!
This is the most important domestic issue in my opinion. This will affect civil rights for the next 50 years.
Response to Original message
5. at very least, EVERY judge the idiot attempts to appoint.
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It was before - here is an example thread from 2005. There are dozens more just like it.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1466872
The DUmmies smoke so much dope they done forgot all about 2001 through 2008.
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Let's also remember that the Obamessiah had a fillibuster-proof Senate for two years, DUmb****s. If he had thought that he wouldn't get his ass kicked in November, he would have choked it through before January 3rd, 2011.
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To be a liberal is to be a hypocrite. They reek of hypocrisy.
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(https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQtGzhXWKinbpON9c7ivUxlPLktoYOr_7KWDItlpg9sLWTJ4HppRw)
Their hypocrisy knows no bounds :)
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It was before - here is an example thread from 2005. There are dozens more just like it.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1466872
High Five for exposing stark hypocrisy.