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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: Danglars on May 20, 2012, 12:55:36 PM
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Yes, it ain't family fare and sometimes there are too many sex scenes. But by and large it's well done of its kind--historical romance--and well acted. And a fair number of the sex scenes have included both important dialogue and important plot points, (eg, Lucrezia's attempt on Juan's life while he was with a prostitute, by leaving a burning candle under the rope holding up the heavy and pointed iron chandelier).
Season 2, ep 5, we got an extended gay sex scene. They took the most badass guy--Miccoletto, Cesare's shadowy assassin and spy, who has been pretty much quitet walking death for the whole series thus far--and made him, get this, not only closeted gay, but with his half brother (same mother). Then there's a gross incestuous gay sex scene in a cemetary.
Yes, Miccoletto can still be a ruthless killer. But was this really necessary?
Bear in mind that Miccoletto is entirely fictional--they're not being true to history in any sense by doing this. Of course they're off on real history in a gazillion other ways--for example, Machiavelli never served the Medici, quite the opposite--but in some ways they're historically correct. So it's just more gay-crap being tossed in wherever we look. This scene should be the subject of a chapter in book on filmaking and directing, perhaps entitled, "How Not to Develop a Character Against Type and Completely Derail Your Main Audience's Interest."
All I know is it was gross. Thanks a lot, Showtime.
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I missed the genesis of the connection between Cesare and Miccoletto. Miccoletto definately has no problem with doing Cesare's bidding does he. I think Juan is a pinhead.
I like the show a lot. Although at times it's difficult to keep up with all the plots and sub plots and scheming going on.
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I like the show, Jeremy Irons is great. But the gay/incest scene was just a throw-out to the gays. It didn't add a thing to the story. Who knew that if gays can't buttbump who they want, they don't turn into drama queens- they turn into deadly assassins? ::)
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OMG I had no idea they were half brothers!!!! Eewwwwwww!
I do love this show but I find the pace slow at times.